Mostly Jane Austen, favourite is Mansfield Park. Also JAFF. This is what happens when a very bored Cognitive Neuroscientist gets super into 19th century British literature? she/her Canadian
I write about Jane Austen because I love her works, but also because I write JAFF (Jane Austen Fan Fiction). I also really enjoy Anne Brontë, especially The Tenant of Wildfell Hall, George Eliot, and Elizabeth Gaskell, specifically Wives & Daughters.
I have two self-published novels, Prideful & Persuaded: A Jane Austen Crossover Romance and Unfairly Caught: A Mansfield Park Variation. You can find my free stories and other stuff here. I also write on AHA and AO3 under this same username. If you want a comprehensive list of every named character in Jane Austen’s six novels: here. (for Regency names in real life here), Mansfield Park probably isn't about slavery and Regency-ish household budgets
My Northanger Abbey readthrough can be found here
My Lady Susan readthrough can be found here
Link to my AITA Jane Austen posts
Link to find all my Jane Austen Charted posts
Link to find all my Why You Should Read This Jane Austen Novel posts
Objective (lol) hotness ratings for Jane Austen's heroes, heroines, and dubious men
Some of my favourite posts:
Estimated Sexual Abilities of Austen Men
First Kiss for each Austen Heroine Couple
Who would each Jane Austen Heroine stab?
The sluttiest thing a (Jane Austen) man can say
Each Jane Austen Hero Writes a “Wentworth Letter”
Fighting ability of Austen Men
If you want to learn more about my other life in science, check out this post.
My Asian drama sideblog Fake Married my Dead Fiance is here (this does not work on phones? just search fake-married-my-dead-fiance)
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Thanks AI, the words and the picture are in direct contradiction. That really helps for answering the question.
Remember when Google actually gave accurate answers?
It's not actually intelligent. It cannot think. It cannot judge. It just spits out what it's stolen from others and sometimes what it has stolen is wrong.
The text and the picture contradicting each other about which side is longer is actually the least problematic part, because the entire explanation is nonsensical gibberish from the perspectives of both mathematics and everyday language.
Math teacher rant under the readmore:
This thing doesn't seem to know if it's explaining about how these words are used in everyday language, or if it's answering a student's question about their math homework. But either way, NO. NO NO NO!The length and width are always perpendicular. They are defined to be perpendicular. Even a nonmathematical everyday language understanding of width, length, and height is that they are all always mutually perpendicular.
Let's talk about everyday language first. Suppose you have some irregularly shaped object, and you want to measure it. The first thing you do is set it front of you. If it has an obvious front & back, and top & bottom, you set it upright and facing you. Maybe it doesn't have an identifiable front or back or top or bottom so you make an arbitrary choice. Now the height is the distance vertically, and the length and width (and no one knows or cares which name goes with which measurement) are the distances front-to-back and side-to-side, perpendicular to each other and to the height. Like, you shove it back against the (possibly imaginary) wall behind it and measure how far it sticks out, and do the same thing from the side for the other measurement. This may be helpful if you want to know if it will fit on a particular shelf. (You also could have just set it on the shelf and looked to see if it stuck out too much.)
Now, if one of these distances is significantly longer than the other two, you probably did all this same stuff while thinking of that longest dimension as its length. You also probably oriented the object such that the length went side-to-side, mostly to have it more easily in reach, but also if you tried stand it up on one end it might just fall over. Heck if it's long and skinny enough, you're thinking of it as being almost linear (1 dimensional), but with a cross section because it's only almost linear, and linear things have length. That's because what's important is that there are 3 perpendicular dimensions, and not what they're called. But we buy some 3 dimensional objects based on linear measurements, like electrical conduit, wire, thread, and fabric by the yard, because one of their dimensions is much larger than the other two, and the other two dimensions stay fixed through that entire length.
Mathematically, there are even more problems. The AI has defined length and width using entirely different criteria, despite the fact that they are actually the same damn thing just perpendicular to each other. It defines length in relation to width, as being the longer of the two, while width is defined as "side-to-side." Side-to-side makes sense for everyday language, but mathematically, it doesn't mean anything. I'm serious, what the fuck does that mean? Am I seriously expected to take the perspective of the viewer of the rectangle into account?? Suppose I'm looking at the shape from an angle, or I rotate the paper it's drawn on. Does this change in persepctive change how wide it is? No, because the person looking at the shape has nothing whatsoever to do with the mathematical properties of the shape. This is not a valid mathematical definition.
A rectangle is a rectangle regardless of its orientation in the plane. The rectangle's length is the length of one of its sides, and its width is the length of an adjacent side - which is perpendicular to the first side because it's a rectangle. We don't really use the word width with other 2 dimensional shapes. For example, a triangle has a base and a height, and they're perpendicular to each other. If you were to mention the width of a triangle, I'd be asking you what the hell you're talking about. (In fact a triangle has 3 sets of base-and-height-that-go-together, one for each side of the triangle, because again, the orientation of the triangle in the plane doesn't matter. I know you're thinking of the base as the side the triangle is "sitting on," but it's not. Pick a side, any side, that can be the base, and the height is defined in relation to that base.)
Ultimately, saying the longer side of a rectangle is the length isn't a big deal. It is how we use the word in everyday language. But mathematics just doesn't care which side of a rectangle is the length and which is the width.
Also, I don't really give a fuck that the picture labels the shorter side as the length, in contradition to the text, beyond that it confuses people. After all, the cardinal rule of geometry tests is that any provided pictures are not drawn to scale!
I don't read as much fic as I used to but one "tell" for non Canadians writing us, besides the etransfer, is the units you use to describe us measuring something. I hate to tell you this but The Chart is real and it's completely subconscious. Please abide
I still remember this French exchange student who came to Canada and said to me in exasperation, "I thought you did metric!" We do, just not always.
The thing is, I'd say we are bilingual in measurements, but I can only do my height in inches and feet, cm and meters mean nothing to me if it's a human. I have to convert with math (I do know my own height in both). If I'm told a human's weight in kg I have literally no picture in my head of how they might look. Tell me in pounds and I'm good. Tell me the day's temperature in F and I won't know how to dress.
We really do measure travel distances in time. I live 2 and a half hours away from my parents. No idea how many kms. That's not important. The important part is the time.
If I will defend anything imperial, it's cups and spoons. Best way to bake in my humble opinion. Trying to bake in metric has too many hundreds of ml.
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canon is what happens in the text. e.g. merlin tries to poison morgana
a headcanon is a fact that you have personally made up as an elaboration of canon. it is your invention. e.g. i think morgana and gwen had a teenage lesbian situationship before the events of canon. or, i think modern morgana would love evanesence.
an interpretation is how one reads the existing text. it is not an invented fact nor is it a headcanon, it is a reading. e.g. i think merlin tries to poison morgana out of misplaced self-hatred. or, i think that one line was delivered with suppressed malice and shows a nuanced relationship.
fanon is the general fandom’s accepted headcanons and interpretations that elaborate or recontextualize canon. e.g. merlin is a badass waif and morgana is a bitch.
these are all different words with different meanings.
Also, for an interpretation to be valid it needs to be based on the text. It cannot just be a vibe. One can disagree on readings of the text, but if someone comes with quotes and/or historical context and you just have vibes, then sorry, your interpretation is inferior and may in fact just be a headcanon.
As much as Mr. & Mrs. Bennet could have done much better preparing for the future and saving money in Pride & Prejudice, it's actually not surprising at all that they didn't manage it. Not just because they were banking on a boy but everything else too.
Saving is very hard and so few people do it. The government in my country has forced pensions that come right out of people's wages for a good reason. A lot of the inheritances we see in Austen are just money being passed on, saved by someone who had the will to do it and then paid forward. A mother's dowry was placed in trust and protected, then split between her daughters and etc. Recycled inheritances.
Mrs. Bennet going from "middle class" to upper class as a very young woman, it must have seemed like the money was endless and would never run out. Her husband didn't even have to work for it like her father! With so much wealth, saving must have just seemed unnecessary.
Mr. Bennet being born into wealth... I remember my parents teaching me to think about all money in terms of my minimum wage. I used to calculate how many hours as a cashier it took to buy this pair of jeans or that book I wanted to buy. Mr. Bennet never worked. He knew the money would keep coming until he died, barring some major disaster. The motivation to save must be so hard to inspire in those circumstances. He knew he should set some aside for emergencies, but he never actually did.
So many people live up to their incomes, no matter their wealth. So many people save nothing, despite knowing they should. I wonder what percentage of the gentry actually managed to save for their daughters (and extra sons) and how many failed at it.
And it makes me think, is one of the things that made Darcy so attractive to Elizabeth the fact that he could come up with £3000 twice at the drop of a hat, indicating that he has both savings and an emergency fund?
Financial responsibility and planning, always attractive.
Thanks AI, the words and the picture are in direct contradiction. That really helps for answering the question.
Remember when Google actually gave accurate answers?
It's not actually intelligent. It cannot think. It cannot judge. It just spits out what it's stolen from others and sometimes what it has stolen is wrong.
Another odd thing I've found in Austen commentary, this time about "Sense and Sensibility": some people are convinced that Marianne is Austen's self-insert, a self-mocking reflection on her own adolescence, while other people insist that Elinor is much more like Austen, and that she might even be the closest to a self-portrait out of all her heroines. Now, of course it's a mistake to assume that any fictional character is the author's self-insert unless she actually says so. But which of those claims do you think is more likely true, if either?
I don't think any of Jane Austen's characters are self-inserts, though of course I can't say for sure since I didn't know her. I have heard multiple times that Austen's family said she most resembled Henry Tilney of Northanger Abbey. I think this might be in the biography written by James Edward Austen-Leigh (I don't really read biography). I do think Henry Tilney's voice is pretty close to that of the narrator.
The biography I have read said Jane Austen was a frivolous social butterfly as a youth, which sounds like neither Marianne or Elinor Dashwood. So I pick none! Both of the Dashwood sisters are pretty introverted, even though only one is self contained. I wouldn't use "social butterfly" to describe any Jane Austen heroine except maybe Elizabeth Bennet or Emma Woodhouse. Marianne is a Romantic drama queen and Elinor is an Elder Sister.
As an side, one of the only books I've read where a character really felt self-insert is Ian Malcolm in Jurassic Park by Micheal Crichton, but that's just a personal vibe. I don't go around basing analysis on it. I just think it's telling that when asked to write a sequel, he resurrected Ian Malcolm from the dead.
Authors probably put bits of themselves in every character, but that's just because they are human and we aren't completely unique.
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Ann Radcliffe is KILLING ME right now in The Mysteries of Udolpho
Oh, she says, you want to know about Emily's escape from the castle? No, new character in final quarter of the novel, let's learn about Blanche and how much she loves mountains (why does everyone love mountains!?!)
Oh, you want to know about the ghosts and Ludovico? No, let me tell you the entire history of the book he's reading and what he's reading about. Like literally, how the housekeeper got her hands on this book, it's history of being damaged, and then her giving it to Ludovico and then HE READS IT AND YOU GET TO READ IT TOO. This story within the story goes on for like 3 pages
Why did I need to know that Dorothee found this book slightly damaged behind a bookcase? WHY!? GET TO THE GHOSTS
Ann Radcliffe you needed an editor SO BADLY
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She also had the audacity to say that Emily was usually in better spirits and could enjoy things. WHEN? When Ann Radcliffe? Because I'm pretty sure she's been upset for the entire novel (not that she didn't have cause BUT STILL)
"If you think you have wronged me by giving me your friendship, and occasionally admitting me to the enjoyment of your company and conversation, when all hopes of closer intimacy were vain—as indeed you always gave me to understand—if you think you have wronged me by this, you are mistaken; for such favours, in themselves alone, are not only delightful to my heart, but purifying, exalting, ennobling to my soul; and I would rather have your friendship than the love of any other woman in the world!”
Gilbert Markham in Anne Brontê's The Tenant of Wildfell Hall
I just saw a comment on fb that ran off the misconception that dowries were a sexist subjugation of women for the purposes of buying and selling them like objects, and since this morning I would rather die than engage with a stranger on fb I'm going to talk on here instead about dowries as they were around Jane Austen's era/regency England.
Basically: dowries were an inheritance. It was a way to give a daughter what they would need to live comfortably at the time when they were most likely to need it - leaving their father's care and support and beginning a home elsewhere. In Austen terms we're generally talking about a sum of money, but dowries can also include items for a household like linens and China (goods like this were called a trousseau from at least the 1830s onward). Dowries very materially improved the life of a woman as they were meant to.
Some of the ways they did this were actually before marriage. We tend to call every inheritance a woman was to receive a dowry but that's incorrect, most of Austen's heroines don't have a dowry, though we know how much they'll inherit upon the death of their father and/or mother. Fortune =/= dowry. The Bennets of Pride and Prejudice, the Dashwoods of Sense and Sensibility, Anne Elliot in Persuasion, and even Emma Woodhouse in Emma all will inherit a little to a great deal of wealth but not as a dowry. This means that even Emma, who will one day have the staggering amount of thirty thousand pounds, would not be bringing wealth immediately into a marriage (though in her circumstances she has a father who would hardly let her live impoverished if she had chosen to marry a penniless man).
For women as poor as the Bennets in Pride and Prejudice (though they should've had more money each, if their parents weren't useless, as has been discussed) the distinction between dowry and eventual inheritance didn't mean much: a max of fifty pounds per annum in interest was literally less than what some servants were paid so couldn't alleviate the need for their husbands to have an independent income. But what money a woman could bring into a marriage definitely increased the likelihood of her preferences being realised. Northanger Abbey's Catherine Moreland, who "would have three thousand pounds" means she has enough of a fortune to "smooth the descent of [General Tilney's] pride" and make him consent to the marriage of his son to her. She certainly would've been glad her parents saved this money for her, instead of feeling that she was an object being bought or sold. It empowered her choices, rather than reduced them.
That the inheritance of a woman is presented as a dowry also reduces the chances a woman and the man she loves will need to wait to marry until either of them inherit something or he makes a living. If Anne Elliot of Persuasion had had a dowry, instead of a future inheritance (a "share of ten thousand pounds which must be hers hereafter"), would she have broken off that original engagement? In ch23 she tells Captain Wentworth she would've been engaged to him when he had only "a few thousand pounds" and the likelihood of more thanks to an advantageous posting. If she would receive her own few thousand pounds upon marriage would that've been enough to remain engaged from the first, and perhaps even marry once he had added a few more thousands to that instead of needing to wait for Wentworth to build their shared fortune himself?
We can also see that a dowry was an inheritance parents provided for their daughter's benefit, rather than a sale price, by how carefully marriage articles were drawn up. This could legally define pin-money (how much money a woman would receive for her private usage and upkeep from her husband), and often specified that the husband couldn't diminish the bulk sum of his wife's fortune, only use the interest it generated, so that there would always be something to support the wife and her children no matter how spendthrift he was. Think of it like an old-fashioned pre-nup or family trust.
This is a huge reason why eloping was so bad, it meant there hadn't been articles drawn up beforehand and so the legal default of 'everything the wife has is now the husband's in full' applied instead of the chance to preserve her rights to her own fortune. If Wickham had succeeded in eloping with Georgiana Darcy in Pride and Prejudice her thirty thousand pounds would've become his in full when she turned twenty-one, though her guardians could've withheld it before then, and he could've spent it all and left her penniless without legal consequence.
There are plenty of historical examples of husbands without the regulations of marriage articles squandering the fortune and selling off assets, leaving the wife eventually destitute. Marriage articles are a response to that as father's wanted to protect their daughters and her future children. It actually limited the power of a husband in favour of preserving the comforts and rights of his wife, so was opposite of misogyny (though the society and laws which required these extra protections was undeniably sexist and male-centred)
Nor was receiving an inheritance upon marriage a specifically female-only practice. Eldest sons would generally receive the bulk of their inheritance when their father died, but it was common in this time and for centuries beforehand for them to be confirmed as heir or given a set income from their father (or one of their father's lesser estates, if we're talking nobility and the ultra rich) as part of the marriage articles (which would generally benefit the wife for the remainder of her life, either as a jointure or dower). Younger sons, if not already provided for, could also be given something upon their marriage and may have a commission in the army or a church living bought for them, to give them some independence. In Sense and Sensibility, after accepting the engagement of Edward and Elinor, Mrs Ferrars gives her son ten thousand pounds "towards augmenting their income" and this allows the marriage to occur. No one accuses Mrs Ferrars of selling Edward off in matrimony, even though what she's doing is so similar to a dowry that the narration points out it's exactly what "had been given with [her daughter] Fanny".
Fortune hunters and those marrying purely for money and a comfortable lifestyle definitely existed, as they do now, but dowries were not a socially and legally mandated way to give women to men to benefit them financially. 'Mercenary' marriages were frowned upon, and women were taught to look out for fortune hunters (like Wickham). Nor was it considered only men who might marry primarily to benefit from their spouse's wealth (Charlotte Lucas being a sympathetic female example). That both men and women could have inheritances gifted upon marriage, and were represented as seeking to marry for money, helps show that the practice of dowries wasn't a sexist practice which reduces women to little more than livestock.
In fact, there's an argument to be made that the very existence of large dowries being a cultural norm indicates that daughters were valued and loved. Instead of leaving everything they could to the sons (which would be expected if daughters were worthless objects to be given away at any price) these daughters were considered worth saving for, worth drawing up legal contracts to protect the living standard of, and worth leaving an inheritance often equal or greater than what younger sons would receive (as they could earn their own income). A dowry didn't reduce the humanity of a woman, it empowered her choices and protected her future. It was the women without dowries or an inheritance that were in danger of needing to marry whomever would take them.
Vaguely related to your post about Darcy being socially able to marry the Bingleys, is there an argument to be made that he - for want of a better phrase - 'led Caroline on' prior to his falling for Elizabeth? They got on well and she was obviously into him - could expectations have been raised in wider gentry society?
In this case, I think Darcy manages to walk a fine line where he isn't raising Caroline's expectations, but she also isn't delusional to hope that one day he'll propose to her.
Darcy doesn't really respond to Caroline's obvious flirting. He does dance with her at the Meryton assembly, but he also dances with her married sister Louisa, though no one else. He seems to mostly enjoy mean girl gossiping with her.
From Caroline's perspective, it's not wedding bells, but for someone who is that taciturn to seem to enjoy hanging out with her, she has some rational hope. Both that Darcy might someday be interested in more with her and that Charles might be able to marry Georgiana.
It's in the contrast instead of outright encouragment that Caroline has hope and then later fear. When Darcy is distant from most people but close to her family, there is reason to hope. When Darcy starts being interested in Elizabeth and seeking her out to listen to and speak to her, Caroline gets jealous and worried. I think Darcy is very careful not to raise real expectations in either Caroline or Elizabeth until he finally gives in at Rosings.
As an aside, I do wonder if Darcy dancing with just Caroline and Louisa at the Assembly gave people in Meryton the idea that he already had a tacit understanding with her. They mostly dislike his rudeness, but rude and unavailable? Unforgivable.
I was just listening to a YouTube video about Jane Austen's life, and in passing, it suggested that the reason why mother/child relationships are so often distant in Austen's books (with the mothers either dead, absent, or incompetent) might be because of Austen's own class- and period-typical lack of childhood bonding with her mother: living with a village wet nurse as a baby, then having a nanny, and then going to boarding school. Do you think this link is likely true, or does it sound like an excessive attempt to link the art to the psychology of the artist?
I don't personally like to draw parallels between the author's real life and their novels, unless something is clearly semi-autobiographical (Agnes Grey for example). But I would also say that not all Austen mothers are dead, absent, or incompetent. Mrs. Jennings is quite active, visits her daughters frequently, and seems to have a very loving relationship with at least Charlotte and her son-in-law (Lady Middleton doesn't like her mom). Mrs. Dashwood in Sense & Sensibility may not be as prudent as Elinor, but she is loving and close with her daughters, especially Marianne. Mrs. Morland is mostly not around for Northanger Abbey, but seems to be very involved with her children. The Musgroves seem very close despite boarding school and Mary Musgrove seems to be around her kids a lot, if not directly taking care of them.
Also, I think sometimes we get arrogant in our modern ideas of parenting and think children would have felt unloved in the past. However, expectations would have been different and comparison would be different as well. Children would look around and see that the way their parents expressed love for them was similar to other families, so they probably wouldn't feel deprived. I remember even reading a study that 20 minutes per day of genuine bonding with a child is all they really need. The Austens visited their wet-nursed children daily as far as I remember. And children today still have deep bonds with their parents despite 6 hours of school and after school activities. Or not, if their parents suck. But parents will suck under any model of parenting.
I think Austen was just interested in how parents can prepare their children for life or drag them down. She avoids the popular orphan trope and instead focuses on the ways parents can affect their children while alive. If her heroines are half-orphans, she always kills the more competent parent... You know I don't think the relationships are really that "distant" at all. Mrs. Bennet is right there, muddling in her daughter's lives. Fanny Price is over-parented. The Dashwood girls are close with their mother... Anne was close to her mother and is very close to a mother figure in Lady Russell. Emma has a close female mother figure as well.
Anyway, I guess my general answer is no, I don't agree. Doesn't seem like a coherent theory to me.
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It's so funny to me how people mock Caroline Bingley's social position while forgetting that if Caroline is so lowly and tainted by trade, her brother Charles would be too. If Caroline was unworthy of marrying Darcy (she isn't) than Darcy would not be staying at Charles's rented estate. "But friendship!" Please read Emma. Mr. Knightley might esteem Robert Martin, but he would never dine with him. He would never marry Robert Martin's sister. When Harriet marries Robert Martin, Emma and Harriet's friendship dies and becomes a relationship of distant respect.
In the upper classes of the Regency era, your friends were people you could theoretically marry. You visited people you could marry. Darcy wants his sister to marry Charles and that means it's possible for him to marry Caroline. You cannot have Darcy and Bingley as close friends unless they were close enough in social status for their families to intermarry. Caroline can't be disgusting trade trash if Charles is a particular friend. You cannot have it both ways.
Yes! But even if it was the Bingley's father, we know Mrs. Jenning's husband in Sense & Sensibility was in trade and his daughters married a baronet and a wealthy gentleman. They did the same thing as Caroline Bingley, went to a nice school and jumped into the gentry with large dowries.