In sharing these, i only hoped to demonstrate how the trans movement comes across at its vilest to lesbians and other women.
The comic, and the point, was not that they are equal but rather have similar degrading views on lesbians. Of course the church has more power. My post was not missing this, it just was not about this. It was on the social dialogue between groups, specifically the attacks that the trans group makes against the cis lesbian group when there is disagreement.
I should have linked a specific post and not the master doc. I did not expect you to go through all of them, there are quite a lot- out of necessity of course. If there were only seven or so then it could not be demonstrated to be a pattern.
I am sure that the phrase : âchoke on my girlcockâ is familiar to you, being in these circles as you say.
Warning: Contains sexual violence
To anybody, that would be disturbing. It is a very unwell thing to be said, and yet it is common vernacular. I donât bat an eye anymore when I read it, but causal misogyny should not be discredited for itâs free usage. This was the vulgar phrasing I referred to in my previous reblog.
I very much disagree that they are simply discussing transphobia. The point of these posts is that lesbians see it as homophobic to erase, as the trans movement calls them, genital preferences. It is homophobic to moralize against them. It is a viewpoint of some churches and some trans activists that it is perverted and wrong of women to be attracted to vulva specifically. This is the pattern that is demonstrated.
I would like to point out that many trans women themselves have genital preferences. While I do not frequent their communities, they tend to frequent lesbian ones and sometimes embarrassedly explain how they would not date a trans woman themselves because they are sexually incompatible.
I often see this rebuttal with, well lesbians are cruel by announcing their genital preferences all the time. There has historically been shame around female desire and sexuality. If people make posts all the time celebrating âgirlcockâ, why is it suddenly transphobic to make them on vulva?
A real instance of homophobia that this leads to is the app Her. On this app, expressing your genital preferences led to banning for transphobia. And I donât mean insulting, I mean stating. The lesbian community is already so small and this just makes it smaller.
What cis women are angry about is not the grooming preferences. Women have made their own spaces and are now seeing themselves pushed out. The language and culture of lesbians is actively being fought. Their voices are being silenced.
What I take from your response is that you see these instances as trans women and allies punching up, and cis lesbians as punching down. The in-group insults the out-group that they feel oppressed by. But I do not believe that two marginalized communities have any business in punching when we are already so weak. Itâs silly to start ranking oppression, doing the math to see who has it worse in society.
As I interact with them in my day to day life, and encounter their communities on the internet, trans activists have many homophobic biases. Itâs inevitable with two polar movements to have some hash. I feel it is disingenuous to reduce this to trolls and âCaitlyn Jennersâ.
I didnât compile the receipt page, but it did reflect my experiences. I do not hold hate for these communities, the trans movement is not one of my top concern by any means. I wouldnât consider any of my views to be hostile to trans lives. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, and while I do not agree with much of the trans movement, I hope we as the left can unite and work to preserve our freedoms as it feels every country slips a little more to the right, tightening that leash.
