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& like im not trying to call anyone racist as a person or whatever, you can say stuff that may or may not be racist without realizing that's what you're doing, & most people in the fandom are literal children (or at least, so i assume)

Also it might be some inside joke i just haven't been let in on, idk

Anyway . To get to the actual point . I feel like it's based less on how he actually acts & more just around him being like, racially indian-adjacent - cause sadly, that's (from what i hear) an annoyingly persistent stereotype about indians, that's (again, from what I've heard) even held up by otherwise ordinary, accepting people

And i just can't see how anyone could watch the same show i did, and decide that the most well put together, down to earth, em/sympathetic and arguably most sensitive guy on the team is this farting, diarrhea-stench swine of a man

(little edit here: there actually are a couple legitimate clues to this conclusion; something about stinky socks & peeing in pools (which I'll look into a little more when I'm free))

Like i would get it, sort of, if it was just about DR Cole, since he's living on basically a scrap yard, but I never see anybody say it about the rest of the Land Of Lost Things (or whatever it's called in English) family, or even just Geo.

Like yeah he doesn't seem to have running water over there, but neither does any of the others, why isn't the hc ever that they stink as a family thing instead of just targeting Cole specifically?

It sucks to me that kids from India (and surrounding countries ? maybe ? sry, don't know a lot abt the world) finally got actually good representation in a massive show, and then this really negative stereotype sorta gets applied to him, y'know?

as a little final note again: not actually trying to call any one specific person racist or malicious. I'm entirely in the realm of speculation with that last paragraph. I don't even know how popular that head canon is. i have no clue who started it, i don't know their intent, nor that of anyone who hopped on it. You can believe in racist things without realizing it; from what i hear, almost everyone does to some extent. just, yknow, most do their darndest to minimize it ofc

I just don't want to see one of my favorite shows used to spread harmful stereotypes, intentional or not.

also sry to the ppl who're seeing this when they just wanna look at cute Cole fanart or smth i hope im not too much of a bother i just feel like it kinda had to be said

all the "stinky/ugly/smelly/dirty" stereotypes are extremely hurtful and have no basis whatsoever. the fact that a lot of the fandom treats it as simply a joke is honestly worse. racism against indians has turned into exactly that-- a joke-- and seeing how so many people in a fandom FOR A KIDS SHOW are normalising it and even encouraging it really pisses me off

bit of a rant but i feel like it needed to be said. the "half white half chinese" discourse was, once again, one based off racist views.

he's a fictional character, and a fucking lego. bullying people online, normalising racial stereotypes, going to the extent of outright abusing indians as a whole is horrible and immature. it speaks for half the fandom's mental age.

>onions

>my onions

I know that's what the Ninjago Wiki says, but where is that coming from? In both Season 1 and Season 15, characters (including the Overlord, who would presumably know) use male pronouns when referring to the GD.

On the other hand, Season 7 reveals that the Vermillion come from the Great Devourer -- they're referred to as the "first generation progeny of the Great Devourer" (Skales), they come from "eggs from the Great Devourer" (Ray), and they are a "legion spawned from the Great Devourer" (Krux). This would presumably make the Great Devourer female. But look closely -- what language is actually used? No one outright says that the Great Devourer laid those eggs, at best we get from Ray that they come "from" the Great Devourer. But if the Great Devourer was the *father* of the Vermillion, what would be the change in dialogue? "Eggs fertilized by the Great Devourer"? Cmon of course he wouldn't say that. And the other lines could all apply to the father or mother of the Vermillion. At no point in Ninjago's 15 season run did any character ever use female pronouns to describe the Devourer.

Jay: Man, he sure is hungry.

Cole: Ah, we lost him.

Cole: You're supposed to hit him, not give him a haircut.

Jay: Got him!

Garmadon: You just make sure he stays in one spot. 

Lloyd: Go get him, Dad.

Although I do see why I've never clocked most of these before. Everything from the ninja does feel very "we're fighting an unknown entity, but want to yell about them in a personal way, so turn them into 'that guy' for quip purposes" like you would do for a random driver on the road you want to yell to yourself about, or wild animal you want to commentate on, or bug you're trying to squash. I don't think any of these characters, or even the writers necessarily are using this language to convey gender, and if anything the gendered pronouns being used only in flair lines like this points towards it/it's being the language in the writers room at the time with gender not really being a real topic of discussion (maybe even why tommy defaulted to 'it's' when clarifying).

...except for the Garmadon line. That one doesn't have that same energy, it's far more matter of fact, coming from a much more authoritative position, and Garmadon has a PERSONAL relationship with this snake which makes him less likely to refer to it more loosely.

Now, thematically does it make sense for the GD to be female? Yeah. But based on the data, I think we've got 2 positive proof points of characters using male pronouns in gender specific contexts who really should know what they're talking about, and zero usage of female pronouns to speak of, only heavy vibes.