Relative ways

“Shiggy-”

why thank you my dear, i'm glad you like the fics! just for that i can tell you directly where spinner is going, and that is the kitc

okay realsies. Let's start here: I don't think Spinner has changed this arc (yet?)! @codenamesazanka described his current state as a regression; I think you could also describe his current circumstances as a stagnation, or him being on the precipice of either falling further into his lack of self-worth and passivity, or pushing forth to regain the spark of motivation that propelled him from his bedroom to follow Stain, that had him latching onto a speeding van into a disaster zone.

Rest below the readmore. It’s absolutely incoherent, sorry.

Another old tweet from Spinner’s VA Ryou Iwasaki!

During a talk with my manager about the November Event, he said, “When will Spinner get a power up?” I replied, “He’s fine the way he is. He is someone whose weakness is meaningful. I want him to be a person who fights with spirit more than ability.” [Manager] also asked “When will the Quirk be used,” so I stuck myself! On to the wall! Haha.

We know what type of person Twice is. Hawks knew part of it too. We know that Twice is a 'good guy' at heart. Twice joined the League for acceptance when the rest of society rejected him. Twice warms up to people who are nice to him. Twice will repay the help he is given. Twice will listen to people who are sincere, who trusts him, who respects his wishes, who treats him with dignity (See: Shigaraki telling him to join the yazkuza). Twice cared deeply for the League, and all of his actions and motivation was simply to make sure the League would be okay, the League would be safe, the League will be happy.

Twice would've killed for the League - but he just as much would've not if he did not feel the League was threatened, if he was told not to by Shigaraki, or any other member, for that matter. Taking that farther, because his core drive is the League's well-being, had Twice been promised that the League will be helped, had been convinced that ultimately what's best for the League is to be stopped, that gleeful self-destruction is not true happiness - that the Heroes will save the League instead of putting them down - I firmly believe Twice would've reluctantly helped the Heroes. At the very least, he might've taken some deal not to use his clones in exchange for those promises.

Hawks killed Twice not because it was justice or judgment. He did not do it out of self-defense, or because someone was in immediate danger, or because it was his last, last option. Hawks killed Twice to prevent a crime he thought will be committed but hasn't even happened, because of the maybe-possibility Twice might use his clones, because he thought Twice was the main threat, without complete information or evidence - we see that he didn't know who the fuck Dabi was or the damage Dabi could do to erode public trust, he did not know that Shigaraki was receiving AFO or the level of power Shigaraki would have. He didn't know shit. He talked to some MLA warehouse grunts and thought he discovered the ultimate source of dissatisfaction.

Hawks killed Twice because he thought it was simply the fastest way to do things. Not the fairest or just, not the safest, not the most foolproof. Not even the easiest. He killed Twice out of convenience, using his usual MO - speed - without wondering if it was appropriate and fitting. Currently he feels no guilt, I think because he still believes he did the right thing, that Twice's death was inevitable, that there was no other way to stop Twice, that 'Twice was a good guy but [flawed cost-benefit analysis], that Twice would've blindly listened to the League - of which Hawks also believed had no deeper motivation.

I really, with my whole heart, believe that Hawks literally could've put candy underneath a propped cardboard box, and captured Twice like that. Bring Eraserhead into the plan if he was so worried about quirks. Then really talk to Twice. Fucking offer a plea deal. Hawks offered to help Twice - but he never offered what Twice really wanted: to help Twice's friends.

Twice, in the end, used Double as a last-ditch effort at survival, both his and the League's. He was cornered physically, emotionally, lead to believe he had no other option to help and save the League. We see that that was his final, ultimate goal and achieve, the very last act he pushed himself to do: To save Toga and Mr. Compress, which did involve killing a Hero. Yet note that that was the only Hero he killed, also because he was desperate - his last act was not revenge, or a rampage, or indiscriminate killing, or destruction like his leader wanted; instead it was to save the people he loved.

That was his heart's deepest, purest desire. Hawks never bothered to find that out. His assassination of Twice wasn't his last option, or the best option, or even the one with minimum bloodshed. It was simply because he decided, without the full picture, killing Twice was the *fastest* plan.

Heroes keep failing because they just don't look. They see only the surface, and even then, they look past *what they believe to be* minor threats to target *what they believe to be* the biggest one. They don't see the League as individual people with specific grievances or different motivation - they simply see them as the extension of Shigaraki's power, and Shigaraki they don't even see as human, really. 'Know your enemy' is the most well-known and oldest tactic of war, and Heroes just fucking ignore it completely.

Means Hawks’ killing of Twice is literally meaningless. All for naught. Was completely useless effort. Hawks killed a guy he considered a friend for absolutely nothing.

Like I said in the original post, killing Twice was not a matter or justice or judgment. It was purely tactical and might have made sense on paper— except Hawks had giant gaping holes in his intel, so whatever strategies he came up with will suffer. He didn’t know about Dabi, he didn’t know about Shigaraki/AFO’s deal, and he probably didn’t know Toga has gotten her hands on Twice’s blood. You can’t win a war showing up with throwing rocks because you thought that was sufficient and now it turns out your shoddy intel never included the fact that the enemy has fucking armored tanks that shoots rockets or whatever.

Hawks’ assassination mission on Twice has a net gain of zero. It accomplished zilch. Wasted effort. Solved nothing. Heck, he probably made things worse because now Toga is angry. If Hawks had just captured Twice, Toga would be upset, but not ‘I know now, this world is unjust and there’s no saving it’ upset.

Killing Twice was, as I said before, was not the fairest or just plan, not the safest, not the most foolproof. Not even the easiest. Hawks killed Twice because he saw it as the fastest and most convenience solution without wondering if it was appropriate and fitting. Now it’s coming back to bite him and all the Heroes in the ass.