So I posted my big boy theory a while back after TFG finished and with the newest developments I feel it holds up really well and might even make more sense with the latest video!
The nuclear shelter world would nicely fit in as yet another universe the Founder experiments with. And I believe the Red One may be a victim of the Founder from another world (and maybe even an alternate version of someone we already know?) who is trying to stop the destruction of the multiverse.
After all if “many become one”, we may be doomed for sure.
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Hello! Those who follow me on twitter know I've released a rather long theory document, over 12 pages long I believe, doing a pretty deep dive into all the genloss lore and how I believe most of it connects and plays out!
Those who wish to read the full doc are more than welcome to do so here, though I'll be making a revised and summarized (as much as i can) version for the tumblr folks right here!
So take my hand and follow me below!
Welcome to the Multiverse
We've all seen a certain red orb by now which first appeared on the generation loss website in the game centered around the Hero, a while before the Social Experiments were released.
As the Hero interacts with the orb behind the dumpster, we see visual glitches and suddenly find ourselves in a red tinted, damaged version of the world we were just in.
Well, next time we see this orb is around November 24th when the 2nd chapter of The Founder's Game (TFG) is released. Those who paid attention will have noticed it was hidden in the site's source code back when we encounter it.
The person we're controlling touches the orb and much like before, they wake up in a red tinted world, similar to the one they were in before touching the orb.
Now this red tint I keep bringing up may not have actually been there for the people in question, but it's a good way of conveying to us, the audience, that a change has occurred.
So how different-yet-the-same are these worlds? Well in TFG we're walking in a set of hallways with metal doors pre-orb, but a specific mention of posters of school clubs and teams let's us draw a similarity between this and the post-orb world. Even more specifically, the posters are "more worn than you remember", which makes the connection even less doubtful.
As Ben wakes up in LF High and wanders the hallways, we note that the environment is familiar to him, with the same type of school posters lining the walls alongside lockers.
So what does the orb have to do with the multiverse then?
Ben dies a lot in TFG, each time he wakes up again, the school is a little bit different. The changes become more surreal the more Ben comes to die. Lockers change colours, but then hallways physically twist and gravity acts strangely.
It's easy to brush things off as "part of the game", with Ben dying and resetting just being a mechanic. But we are clever enough to realise that whatever Showfall presents us is actually happening to someone, somewhere.
Another hint awaits us in the science lab in TFG, where we find a book titled "String Theory and Parallel Universes"
In an earlier theory I posted here on tumblr I already brought up a possible multiverse theory when we were repeatedly confronted with the "tunnels" in the genloss videos, but I will get back to this later.
If all these schools are supposed to be parallel universes, why do they differ SO much by the time Ben died a couple times? It could be happenstance that the changes get worse over time instead of random levels of chaotic. However the fact that the strange shifts happen so chronologically tells me that it's something else.
Now what could we possibly call a phenomenon where something gets progressively worse each time it undergoes a certain process?
It's Generation Loss Babyyyyy
The Generation Loss we often thought was solely connected to the VHS tapes has a much greater scope!
However it occurs, it definitely has something to do with the orb's influence or power, causing whoever touches it to relive a part of their world over and over (maybe within a pocket dimension?), until the generation loss sets in each time they die.
To tie it back to the Founder and TSE, it's interesting to look at the orb's possible influence in the earlier timeline as well.
At first I thought the rewinding of the Founder's Cut tapes was causing the Hero to relive their nightmare over and over, but now it seems like the tapes and VCR controls may just be that - controls to let the Founder use the orb and make people relive things until everything is to their wishes.
With how limited Ben's world felt, it's possible there are certain parameters set up by either the orb's limitations or the Founder, to create a controlled environment.
To me it feels like the generation loss is a symptom of the orb, either deliberately used by the Founder, or a side effect they can't quite control.
The Orb
Yes that red thing again. I believe it may be the centerpiece of our story, with the genloss symbol itself - however iconic and ever present - being more of an assist.
The orb is very dangerous, especially if it's a tool the Founder is using to create their "perfect stories". The effect of the orb affects many, and I believe it's possible it may have affected the very Founder themselves too, though I'm keeping that open for another time.
What we do know of the orb so far is that by touching it, you undergo its influence and "enter its world", however it's also possible to find the orb yet again within this world, which to me indicates touching the orb may provide an exit to whoever is under its effects. This may be the only way out for Ben, unfortunately I doubt his physical changes will revert.
Back in TFG, we're shown many mutations of Ben over time as he looks into the mirror.
Now there's plenty of people who have drawn the parallels already between Ben's unravelling and the robotic creature we saw back in chapter 2 in the holding cell.
As the multiverse and parallel universe theories go, there's a lot of different, but also similarities present between them. One such consistent theme is that of Ben's association with robots.
Each time he awakens in the class room, the class's subject changes, but his sketchbook doodles do not: There's always one of a robot.
Other details that follow this theme is when Ben is strangled with electrical wires by the creature roaming the halls and gets a computer screen thrown at him.
It's entirely possible Ben is undergoing something that the wire-creature from the holding cell has gone through before. It wouldn't surprise me if this was one of the many ways the Founder uses the orb.
The Founder and Showfall Media
We know very little of the Founder and Showfall, but by going through tweets, videos and any piece of context we get, we can try to figure some things out.
One thing that stood out to me for a long time was the special keynote we got in “Announcement” over on youtube. A representative of Showfall tells us that they have been providing entertainment for families around this world and that they now have connected with a new frontier to which they want to bring their influence with a new live experience which ends up being the Social Experiments.
The wording is so specific and was some of the first near-solid proof to me that there’s something multiversal going on.
Even when referring to the Founder’s cut in the video "Again", there is the specific mention that it is the “first, a test of what is possible with infinity”, which at first sounded like a tape-rewinding situation, but now with the orb involved may mean literal universal infinity. A sort of disclaimer at the start of "Coming_Soon" also mentions that what wer're about to see actually happend, just not here.
At some point Showfall connected to a new frontier (our world) to show us TSE and “bring their influence” to us. Which might mean that Showfall (and the Founder) have plans to change or influence our world with their “entertainment” too.
In any case, we learn a bit more about this and the Founder’s behavior towards the matter of these stories and frontiers when we receive a letter from the Founder’s desk. It is encoded in what we’ve come to call the Founder’s Cipher, and was addressed to a certain “you”.
Within the text, looking back on it with the multiversal theory in mind, many sentences stand out like:
“There were many like you, but I knew you were special.”
“There is more beyond what I watch.”
“I can create anything.”
“I will create something perfect.”
It’s possible the Founder will use the orb and many more innocent victims to manipulate worlds and people to turn them into a perfect story. The precise motive as to why this is all happening is unclear, but we've been given some vague hints through a certain character Ben meets along his way.
It’s a bit too vague right now to be entirely certain, but when Ben encounters the Fortune Teller and presses its button, we are treated to some deliciously vague allusions of an internal struggle:
“You know this will kill you, you’re chasing someone else’s dream. You are losing everything in the process. What is it all for? The hope of salvation? The hope to do what you believe you are meant to be doing? What is it that you even want anymore? Is this even for you? Who is this even for? Answer me, please.”
We’re told that this audio occurs as the Fortune Teller’s mouth opens after Ben presses the button, so it’s easy to assume this is directed at Ben, which it might as well be, though if we were to assume it’s directed at someone else, like the Founder, the meaning of the text becomes very interesting.
What if the Founder is chasing someone else’s dream? Perhaps someone they looked up to? Someone they lost? This could be grounds for a motive on why they’re desperately forming perfect stories, testing what is possible with infinity, maybe to regain something or someone? Maybe out of revenge? Out of love? Out of spite?
Whatever it is, it has gone wrong and has cost them everything, to the point they may not even know themselves what it’s all for. Perhaps the Founder, through their research and endless experiments, has lost themselves to generation loss too, losing their humanity and everything else along with it. Maybe even more?
Sadly we can only speculate on who it addresses and what it precisely means, but the Fortune Teller has definitely peaked my interest.
Infinitely so (hah) when Ben encounters the machine again in a circus in chapter 6. Here, when we choose not to press the button, the Fortune Teller shows possible awareness of the fourth wall, of us being in control, as he says he’s glad we “explored our options”, but then ends up speaking without the button even being pressed. He even directly responds to the text we see on our screen where we claim to “not have time for this”, as he responds with “I think you do”.
The second time we hear the Fortune Teller speak, however, it’s specified that it is in a different voice:
“He is the end and the beginning, do you ever wonder why everything is happening like this? Or why this damn thing keeps appearing every single time? Or why everyone, everyone but me, seems to just ignore this? It’s not just that, it was never just that. You don’t get it, this isn’t for me. Or for you. It is for everyone here. This is important. What I do.. is finally important.”
The Fortune Teller then tells us it’s almost like “we were meant to see this” in his regular voice.
Now this second text reads as a recording of part of a conversation between two or more people. Someone is telling someone else that “he” is the beginning. So who is talking to who? And who is “he”?
If we are to assume the “he” is the Founder, then it sounds like this is a conversation between two coworkers who maybe work for the Founder, talking about possibly the orb appearing in places, and how it’s “for everyone”.
Though if we assume the person speaking is the Founder, then it may just be that the Founder was looking up to someone who started the work, and ended up finishing it for some reason, feeling like their work is important and impacts many. Though the first assumption feels more obvious.
It’s also fun to note that “beginning” was the password to the Founder’s Game website the first time we found it through the VHS tapes of the Founder’s Cut. However no fitting password has yet been found to the computer.
The Generation and Screens
Probably one of my favourite chapters in my big boy theory.
To look at the bigger picture of it all, what once may have been a simple timeline of literal generations, could now turn into a mess of universes and time periods that all come together to show us the true extent of the Founder’s influence.
I’ve mentioned this before, but another great visual marker of the bridging between “generations” is the text in the corner of several genloss videos, showing us when we’re dealing with generation 0 or generation 1. Much like a camcorder has the date in the corner of the screen, we see the generation something was recorded in. This goes hand in hand with the "tunnels" I've mentioned before.
Whenever we seem to move to Generation 1 we go forward through the tunnel, yet backwards when dealing with Generation 0.
At first I thought this meant time travel or a multiversal scenario, now I'm definitely more inclined to choose the latter. The tunnels appear to work as divides between the worlds, possibly using the orb to cross them.
Once again red is a prevalent colour, much like the red orb, the red tinted worlds, the generation loss symbol and the red square associated with the Founder.
Where do we stand in all this? Well mostly every form of visuals we’ve seen from Showfall or the Founder has been through a screen, be it the VHS tapes people bought, the Social Experiments through twitch, or the games through a literal monitor on the website which doubles up with out own phones/computers/devices we access the site through. It’s always screens (which honestly also really lends itself well for the “careful what media you consume” or “all media is influenced somehow” allegories throughout genloss).
The very first Genloss video where we see everything on a small television screen
The tv screen in T_2: The Inauguration where we answer a couple questions
The Hero interacting with a TV in the game on the genloss website
The genloss website’s game ending as if a TV is turned off
The Founder’s Cut VHS being taken out of the VCR in “A Message From The Founder”
The screen in Welcome to Generation 0 which is also the same tv frame used in TFG
T_3’s thumbnail and the teasing of TFG
The Founder’s Game
This leads me to conclude that it’s entirely plausible that the Founder does not even share the same universe as us.
Generation 0 is a different universe, from which the Founder and Showfall Media connected to us, to broadcast their experiments and tests to see just how much they can achieve with their technology and research. We are a pawn in their game and experience everything through broadcasts, yet we somehow directly affect other worlds through the screen with the Founder’s influence. Even our very own computer screens as we watched TSE live on Twitch is one of many screens we have observed everything through.
They're not here, they're broadcasting to us.
But we do have an impact. And so does someone else.
Red Text Person
Throughout genloss we’ve encountered someone I like to refer to as Red Text Person (just “Red” from here on out). They’re someone who has breached communications of Showfall Media’s broadcasts to us and sent red text our way, sometimes not even knowing what exactly they were doing or who they were communicating with.
Now, the usage of red becomes increasingly prevalent on all accounts, and yes this gets really confusing, but bear with me.
The first time we encounter “Red” may be traced back all the way to the first video, if you’re feeling daring enough, where a brief text flashes “Kill” instead of “Find the Founder”, though the first video honestly still has me a little confused as to who is showing us what exactly to begin with.
The next possible “Red” encounter occurs in “Connected”, where someone puts up posters to try and warn us about the Social Experiments not just being “a show”, how it “isn’t for us” and notably how “it has all changed, it has changed everything, it will change everything”.
This appears in red text on posters, which are quickly censored by Showfall’s missing posters of the Hero, which aptly form the shape of the Generation Loss logo:
The first solid time we see “Red” as actual red text in a video is in the “Announcement” video from Showfall.
A signal interrupts the company’s keynote video. We see “Red” asking “Hello? Where is this going? Is this working?” and then proceeds to tell us that “It already found him”, with the missing poster of the Hero showing. “Red” then mentions how “It got everyone, everyone but me, I have to save them, I have to stop them”, clueing us in to the possibility that Showfall was also after “Red” and they were meant to be a part of TSE or some other experiment. It’s possible this implies that “Red” is part of the same world Hero was from, seeing people being taken for the experiments, or that TSE took place in their generation/universe, or that they've at least seen the effects of the multiversal shenanigans first hand.
Either way, it’s clear enough that “Red” is against Showfall and the Founder and knows at least part of what’s going on so far.
The next time we hear from “Red” is a while later in T_3. Here “Red” seems a little bit more informed on everyone’s relative positions in everything, stating how “you don’t need to answer, I know you can’t talk back” and “I don’t know yet what you are or where for that matter” but that “you seem to be a key part of whatever this plan is”.
Now, considering T_3 is a video about TFG, this puts the text into two possible contexts:
It is directed at us, the audience, much like before, and we are part of the bigger plan, with “Red” wanting to show us exactly how the Founder and Showfall is doing horrible things
It is directed at Ben within the Founder’s game and “Red” may just try to save him and is unaware of a further audience (us), something that actually neatly ties in with another Figure I'll bring up in a bit
Continuing our look at what “Red” says, they mention an “it” and how they’re not sure if “it is aware of me, but I am aware that there is something at play, I have seen things that don’t seem possible”.
This could be the same “it” that “got everyone, everyone but me” that “Red” mentioned back in the Announcement video, which could allude to the orb or the Showfall organisation. “Red” having seen things that don’t seem possible are pretty alarming, considering those things so far have played within the orb’s grasp.
Either “Red” has been in the orb themselves, are still in there, have a way of seeing things that happen in the orb’s influence, or have seen the effects of the orb on people or their world. Many possibilities!
Either way “Red” also talks of “people there are no record of, yet they must exist” and “I need to show you what they have done and who they have done it to, but I don’t know how”, which strongly connects to the aspect of the multiversal generation loss, how people are going missing and change, how worlds change and suffer through the generation loss and so on.
After this, “Red” seems to be in a hurry, stating “There is something coming, the connection has gotten stronger”, alluding to possibly the start of TFG taking place or something else on the verge of happening.
This is the last time (as of writing this) that we’ve seen a direct interruption in a video from “Red.”
TFG’s Red Figure
So about that "other figure".
Again with the red, I know, but this one’s different (or is it). In The Founder’s Game, Ben catches glimpses of a red glitching and jolting figure that walks around the halls of the school. At first we were unsure whether this figure was benevolent or not, as it didn’t speak to us at the time, nor did it make clear what they wanted from us aside from following them. But now that some chapters have passed, we know more.
The Figure has continuously led Ben places, in what I think is an attempt to get him out of the orb’s influence. At the end of chapter 2 it leads us to the school’s main exit doors, where we decided to follow it to. As the Figure faces Ben, he experiences headaches, blurry vision, an out of body experience and even the sensation that the entire room appears to shake. This is quickly interrupted by a strange black substance pouring out of the lockers as the creature that tries to break into the school bangs on the exit doors.
The next time we see the Figure is in the lab where it opens a window for us to escape through, but as a consequence also offers a way for the creature to break in which causes Ben to run through the hallways again.
As the janitor dies (RIP) and Ben quickly follows him into death for the first time not long after, the school starts acting strangely, making it all the more difficult for Ben to find his way out.
Whenever Ben observes anything unnatural, like the hallways disappearing into darkness or the gravity in a classroom being all screwed up, he receives the same headaches, vision blurring or room-shaking symptoms as when he faced the Figure the first time. I believe this is Ben’s mind trying to make sense of things, and maybe even almost snapping out of the influence of the orb due to how “unbelieveable” and “surreal” his reality has become.
The only other people Ben comes across in the meantime are, as mentioned, the Janitor who dies and stays dead, and his history teacher who also succumbs to the creature and stays dead, later to be found in Ben’s locker.
Nobody else appears to reset when they die from Ben’s perspective, so it’s Ben’s actions and deaths that affect the world’s resets.
The next time Ben encounters the Figure is a good amount of time later in chapter 5, when he gets stuck in a loop within the classroom. The Figure passes by in a blur and opens the door to the classroom, allowing Ben to make an escape and run through the halls as many hands attempt to break into the room.
As he wanders the halls again, he also comes across certain areas that are ransacked, at first this appears to be because of the generation loss’s effects, but we learn when we encounter the Figure again in the science lab, that it is searching for something, as it makes a mess of the teacher’s desk where we find the book about String Theory and Parallel Universes.
Another ransacked room is the library, where Ben finds a notably red book he cannot read as he tries to pry open the pages and fails, upon which we are greeted with a by now familiar sounding sentence: “seems like it isn’t for you”.
It’s unsure what the Figure is looking for but if they’ve already looked through the library, it’s possible they either missed the red book or it wasn’t what they were looking for to begin with.
Either way, as the world around Ben falls apart further and further, the Figure comes to his aid once again near the end of chapter 6 when Ben is thrown around different universes after dying to the creature in multiple ways.
One possibility is that Ben wakes up in the school again, where it is more twisted than ever, but another one has him wake up in an arcade, a circus, a forest or a mirror maze.
The different scenarios play out as follows:
High school (6-10-1): Ben walks through a twisted version of the hallways as an intercom plays a glitchy evacuation message, the lights go dimmer with each step until Ben finds himself in a black void
Mirror maze (6-10-2): Ben sees different versions of himself through the mirror, all warped and transformed some way, which may be all his different versions that have run through the school, at some point as he gives up trying to find an exit, he punches a mirror, after which all reflections do the same with all the mirrors cracking and shattering as he closes his eyes
Arcade (6-10-3): Ben wakes up in an arcade, none of the kids present acknowledge him, he sees one arcade game light up red as the lights go out everywhere else, on the screen flashes a missing poster with “press to start” below it, but before Ben can do anything his vision goes black and a voice says “this one isn’t for you”
Circus (6-53873): Ben encounters the Fortune Teller who gives him the previously discussed dialogue, his vision goes black and we hear a voice say “this one isn’t for you”
Forest (6-423587): Ben wakes up in a forest where one tree holds the genloss symbol on its bark, he also finds the same red book as before in the library, yet he still cannot open it as his vision goes black upon touching it and a voice says again “this one isn’t for you”
It feels important to note that in three cases Ben is told that “this one isn’t for you” explicitly in white text as well, which is the Arcade, the Forest and the Circus. Though only the chapters of the Forest and Circus have oddly numbered chapter urls, where the Arcade’s one follows the familiar way of numbering them. The only other time I recall this happening is when we stumble upon the computer that asks for a password in chapter 4 which had the numbers ‘4-100’ at the end of its url.
Another note to keep in mind, or maybe just some cool foreshadowing, is that we have seen the circus theme before way back in the school’s theater, where the stage was set up in a circus theme.
In the Arcade we also see “^1500” show up three times in the text which may be a mistake or an indication that the world is fully falling apart.
In all cases, Ben ends up in a black void with all kinds of items from the different worlds all floating around and the Figure standing in the middle, signaling him to follow it.
However this time, in the source code of the site, we see that the Figure is actually trying to talk to Ben, only Ben can’t hear it, we however can:
The Figure asks Ben to follow it, and expresses empathy for his situation. When Ben tries to ask where they’re going, the Figure replies “away from here, out of here”.
The Figure leads Ben to, you guessed it, an all too familiar red orb. Upon arriving, the Figure says “we’re here” in the hidden source code as we’re this time shown the picture of the orb, the same image that was hidden in chapter 2, but now fully presented.
Ben is then absolutely taken in by the orb and feels drawn to touch it, which is where we currently are and have to choose whether to touch the orb or not.
I believe touching the orb will fling Ben out of this multiversal hell and back into the world we started in in chapter 2, at least I hope. It’s entirely possible he might be flung into another world that he didn’t originate from, but hey, we can hold a few positive thoughts yes?
If Ben gets out now, it might prevent his doomed fate to fully succumb to the generation loss effects and fully unravel, or potentially transform into a wire-robot like the ones we’ve encountered along the way in TSE and TFG.
(This post continues in part 3, the last part for now)
This may be the last chapter of this huge theory brainstorming document, but I will not promise you this. Sorry if it’s still a long way to go, but you’re an absolute champ if you’ve read this far!
So you remember the forest Ben appears in, yes?
Well, July 30th 2023, the twitter account @TheChronicle0 started tweeting the contents of what we assume to be the journal of someone who goes by the name “Zero” (this is something we learn from the Founder’s Cut on youtube later on as at the end it plays a snippet of Zero’s session with their therapist, where they’re addressed as Miss Roads, but ask to be called Zero.
They allude to an incident that they had (around December, 8 months before they started writing in the journal). Now this isn’t 2023 or 2022 this journal was written in, the actual year is censored to 19XX, which means it could be anywhere in the 1900s, but later on there is a mention of VCRs, so this presumably takes place in the late 1900s, more specifically likely around the 1970s - 1980s.
After some vague and short introductions, Zero writes about several “wild dreams” they’ve had in the past few days. They mention a strange field with a red sky that curved upwards (almost as if they’re in an orb?), a strange chasm and “it”, something they couldn’t seem to look away from (the orb?).
Zero also mentions their friend Jay, who seems silly but a good friend, it’s mentioned Jay/J believes in the supernatural and encourages Zero to write more about their odd dreams.
Now, there’s a lot more to summarize and say about this, but the part I’m trying to connect is the forest Ben finds himself in at the end of chapter 6.
One of Zero’s dreams has them in the field again (presumably same one as before as they simply call it “the field” and not “a field”), when the plants grow taller until they become a forest.
Here, Zero writes that the scene became familiar when they saw a wreck and themselves lying near it. In a nearby tree they describe having seen a “strange symbol” etched into it, which we can assume to be the genloss symbol as seen in Ben’s TFG point of view.
Zero however mentions that they can’t remember what the symbol looked like before the journal entry is cut off by Jay’s writing in all caps.
What can we take from this? It’s possible Ben ended up in the forest Zero had their incident in at some point, getting kicked out by the voice saying “this one isn’t for you”, as it’s Zero’s memory/world/related location. It literally isn't for him.
Zero’s dreams lead us to believe that the incident they’ve had may have caused their dreams, which might be more than dreams, they could be predictions, visions into other worlds, or maybe most fittingly (to me at least) repressed/lost memories from what actually happened to them.
Their therapist may be keeping an eye on them to see just how much they really know and remember, it's possible they may very well be in cahoots with the Founder. On the cassette recorder we see at the end of the Founder’s Cut, there is a genloss symbol on the recorder. To me this indicates things are being tampered with as the genloss symbol always shows up in places where things or memories have been manipulated.
I believe Zero may have been involved in an incident or experiment with the orb, which explains the strange dreams they have and the connection to the genloss symbol or even Showfall Media and the Founder themselves. It’s possible the incident is a cover up and the therapist is keeping an eye on Zero to make sure they don’t make things difficult for them.
Zero may have been “patient Zero” in the Founder’s findings, having been there at the start, going through an incident (maybe at their local high school, Lostfield High, dubbed the Lostfield Incident, where Ben also found himself), which was then covered up.
If you want to take it even further it’s possible that Zero slowly started to gain awareness of everything and got themselves in a bad spot which ended up with Showfall trying to capture them for TSE.
Which might mean they’re the Red Text Person, slowly uncovering the truth and trying to show it to whoever might be watching, breaking through Showfall and the Founder’s broadcasts in an attempt to take them down.
Zero might become "Red", who eventually becomes The Figure trying to save Ben.
Though that’s just my crackpot theory for now haha.
In any case I’ll leave it here for now. I may add onto this post in the future as I've got many things that came to mind along the way of writing this, like the strong connections to Lostfield High and a bunch of characters like the Founder, Zero, Jay and Ben.
At some point I also wanted to make a reference to how it's possible some characters will turn into other characters, much like Booker and Comstock in BioShock Infinite. But that's for another time!
Thank you for reading and happy 2025! Excited to see what Generation Loss throws our way next!
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Hello! Those who follow me on twitter know I've released a rather long theory document, over 12 pages long I believe, doing a pretty deep dive into all the genloss lore and how I believe most of it connects and plays out!
Those who wish to read the full doc are more than welcome to do so here, though I'll be making a revised and summarized (as much as i can) version for the tumblr folks right here!
So take my hand and follow me below!
Welcome to the Multiverse
We've all seen a certain red orb by now which first appeared on the generation loss website in the game centered around the Hero, a while before the Social Experiments were released.
As the Hero interacts with the orb behind the dumpster, we see visual glitches and suddenly find ourselves in a red tinted, damaged version of the world we were just in.
Well, next time we see this orb is around November 24th when the 2nd chapter of The Founder's Game (TFG) is released. Those who paid attention will have noticed it was hidden in the site's source code back when we encounter it.
The person we're controlling touches the orb and much like before, they wake up in a red tinted world, similar to the one they were in before touching the orb.
Now this red tint I keep bringing up may not have actually been there for the people in question, but it's a good way of conveying to us, the audience, that a change has occurred.
So how different-yet-the-same are these worlds? Well in TFG we're walking in a set of hallways with metal doors pre-orb, but a specific mention of posters of school clubs and teams let's us draw a similarity between this and the post-orb world. Even more specifically, the posters are "more worn than you remember", which makes the connection even less doubtful.
As Ben wakes up in LF High and wanders the hallways, we note that the environment is familiar to him, with the same type of school posters lining the walls alongside lockers.
So what does the orb have to do with the multiverse then?
Ben dies a lot in TFG, each time he wakes up again, the school is a little bit different. The changes become more surreal the more Ben comes to die. Lockers change colours, but then hallways physically twist and gravity acts strangely.
It's easy to brush things off as "part of the game", with Ben dying and resetting just being a mechanic. But we are clever enough to realise that whatever Showfall presents us is actually happening to someone, somewhere.
Another hint awaits us in the science lab in TFG, where we find a book titled "String Theory and Parallel Universes"
In an earlier theory I posted here on tumblr I already brought up a possible multiverse theory when we were repeatedly confronted with the "tunnels" in the genloss videos, but I will get back to this later.
If all these schools are supposed to be parallel universes, why do they differ SO much by the time Ben died a couple times? It could be happenstance that the changes get worse over time instead of random levels of chaotic. However the fact that the strange shifts happen so chronologically tells me that it's something else.
Now what could we possibly call a phenomenon where something gets progressively worse each time it undergoes a certain process?
It's Generation Loss Babyyyyy
The Generation Loss we often thought was solely connected to the VHS tapes has a much greater scope!
However it occurs, it definitely has something to do with the orb's influence or power, causing whoever touches it to relive a part of their world over and over (maybe within a pocket dimension?), until the generation loss sets in each time they die.
To tie it back to the Founder and TSE, it's interesting to look at the orb's possible influence in the earlier timeline as well.
At first I thought the rewinding of the Founder's Cut tapes was causing the Hero to relive their nightmare over and over, but now it seems like the tapes and VCR controls may just be that - controls to let the Founder use the orb and make people relive things until everything is to their wishes.
With how limited Ben's world felt, it's possible there are certain parameters set up by either the orb's limitations or the Founder, to create a controlled environment.
To me it feels like the generation loss is a symptom of the orb, either deliberately used by the Founder, or a side effect they can't quite control.
The Orb
Yes that red thing again. I believe it may be the centerpiece of our story, with the genloss symbol itself - however iconic and ever present - being more of an assist.
The orb is very dangerous, especially if it's a tool the Founder is using to create their "perfect stories". The effect of the orb affects many, and I believe it's possible it may have affected the very Founder themselves too, though I'm keeping that open for another time.
What we do know of the orb so far is that by touching it, you undergo its influence and "enter its world", however it's also possible to find the orb yet again within this world, which to me indicates touching the orb may provide an exit to whoever is under its effects. This may be the only way out for Ben, unfortunately I doubt his physical changes will revert.
Back in TFG, we're shown many mutations of Ben over time as he looks into the mirror.
Now there's plenty of people who have drawn the parallels already between Ben's unravelling and the robotic creature we saw back in chapter 2 in the holding cell.
As the multiverse and parallel universe theories go, there's a lot of different, but also similarities present between them. One such consistent theme is that of Ben's association with robots.
Each time he awakens in the class room, the class's subject changes, but his sketchbook doodles do not: There's always one of a robot.
Other details that follow this theme is when Ben is strangled with electrical wires by the creature roaming the halls and gets a computer screen thrown at him.
It's entirely possible Ben is undergoing something that the wire-creature from the holding cell has gone through before. It wouldn't surprise me if this was one of the many ways the Founder uses the orb.
The Founder and Showfall Media
We know very little of the Founder and Showfall, but by going through tweets, videos and any piece of context we get, we can try to figure some things out.
One thing that stood out to me for a long time was the special keynote we got in “Announcement” over on youtube. A representative of Showfall tells us that they have been providing entertainment for families around this world and that they now have connected with a new frontier to which they want to bring their influence with a new live experience which ends up being the Social Experiments.
The wording is so specific and was some of the first near-solid proof to me that there’s something multiversal going on.
Even when referring to the Founder’s cut in the video "Again", there is the specific mention that it is the “first, a test of what is possible with infinity”, which at first sounded like a tape-rewinding situation, but now with the orb involved may mean literal universal infinity. A sort of disclaimer at the start of "Coming_Soon" also mentions that what wer're about to see actually happend, just not here.
At some point Showfall connected to a new frontier (our world) to show us TSE and “bring their influence” to us. Which might mean that Showfall (and the Founder) have plans to change or influence our world with their “entertainment” too.
In any case, we learn a bit more about this and the Founder’s behavior towards the matter of these stories and frontiers when we receive a letter from the Founder’s desk. It is encoded in what we’ve come to call the Founder’s Cipher, and was addressed to a certain “you”.
Within the text, looking back on it with the multiversal theory in mind, many sentences stand out like:
“There were many like you, but I knew you were special.”
“There is more beyond what I watch.”
“I can create anything.”
“I will create something perfect.”
It’s possible the Founder will use the orb and many more innocent victims to manipulate worlds and people to turn them into a perfect story. The precise motive as to why this is all happening is unclear, but we've been given some vague hints through a certain character Ben meets along his way.
It’s a bit too vague right now to be entirely certain, but when Ben encounters the Fortune Teller and presses its button, we are treated to some deliciously vague allusions of an internal struggle:
“You know this will kill you, you’re chasing someone else’s dream. You are losing everything in the process. What is it all for? The hope of salvation? The hope to do what you believe you are meant to be doing? What is it that you even want anymore? Is this even for you? Who is this even for? Answer me, please.”
We’re told that this audio occurs as the Fortune Teller’s mouth opens after Ben presses the button, so it’s easy to assume this is directed at Ben, which it might as well be, though if we were to assume it’s directed at someone else, like the Founder, the meaning of the text becomes very interesting.
What if the Founder is chasing someone else’s dream? Perhaps someone they looked up to? Someone they lost? This could be grounds for a motive on why they’re desperately forming perfect stories, testing what is possible with infinity, maybe to regain something or someone? Maybe out of revenge? Out of love? Out of spite?
Whatever it is, it has gone wrong and has cost them everything, to the point they may not even know themselves what it’s all for. Perhaps the Founder, through their research and endless experiments, has lost themselves to generation loss too, losing their humanity and everything else along with it. Maybe even more?
Sadly we can only speculate on who it addresses and what it precisely means, but the Fortune Teller has definitely peaked my interest.
Infinitely so (hah) when Ben encounters the machine again in a circus in chapter 6. Here, when we choose not to press the button, the Fortune Teller shows possible awareness of the fourth wall, of us being in control, as he says he’s glad we “explored our options”, but then ends up speaking without the button even being pressed. He even directly responds to the text we see on our screen where we claim to “not have time for this”, as he responds with “I think you do”.
The second time we hear the Fortune Teller speak, however, it’s specified that it is in a different voice:
“He is the end and the beginning, do you ever wonder why everything is happening like this? Or why this damn thing keeps appearing every single time? Or why everyone, everyone but me, seems to just ignore this? It’s not just that, it was never just that. You don’t get it, this isn’t for me. Or for you. It is for everyone here. This is important. What I do.. is finally important.”
The Fortune Teller then tells us it’s almost like “we were meant to see this” in his regular voice.
Now this second text reads as a recording of part of a conversation between two or more people. Someone is telling someone else that “he” is the beginning. So who is talking to who? And who is “he”?
If we are to assume the “he” is the Founder, then it sounds like this is a conversation between two coworkers who maybe work for the Founder, talking about possibly the orb appearing in places, and how it’s “for everyone”.
Though if we assume the person speaking is the Founder, then it may just be that the Founder was looking up to someone who started the work, and ended up finishing it for some reason, feeling like their work is important and impacts many. Though the first assumption feels more obvious.
It’s also fun to note that “beginning” was the password to the Founder’s Game website the first time we found it through the VHS tapes of the Founder’s Cut. However no fitting password has yet been found to the computer.
The Generation and Screens
Probably one of my favourite chapters in my big boy theory.
To look at the bigger picture of it all, what once may have been a simple timeline of literal generations, could now turn into a mess of universes and time periods that all come together to show us the true extent of the Founder’s influence.
I’ve mentioned this before, but another great visual marker of the bridging between “generations” is the text in the corner of several genloss videos, showing us when we’re dealing with generation 0 or generation 1. Much like a camcorder has the date in the corner of the screen, we see the generation something was recorded in. This goes hand in hand with the "tunnels" I've mentioned before.
Whenever we seem to move to Generation 1 we go forward through the tunnel, yet backwards when dealing with Generation 0.
At first I thought this meant time travel or a multiversal scenario, now I'm definitely more inclined to choose the latter. The tunnels appear to work as divides between the worlds, possibly using the orb to cross them.
Once again red is a prevalent colour, much like the red orb, the red tinted worlds, the generation loss symbol and the red square associated with the Founder.
Where do we stand in all this? Well mostly every form of visuals we’ve seen from Showfall or the Founder has been through a screen, be it the VHS tapes people bought, the Social Experiments through twitch, or the games through a literal monitor on the website which doubles up with out own phones/computers/devices we access the site through. It’s always screens (which honestly also really lends itself well for the “careful what media you consume” or “all media is influenced somehow” allegories throughout genloss).
The very first Genloss video where we see everything on a small television screen
The tv screen in T_2: The Inauguration where we answer a couple questions
The Hero interacting with a TV in the game on the genloss website
The genloss website’s game ending as if a TV is turned off
The Founder’s Cut VHS being taken out of the VCR in “A Message From The Founder”
The screen in Welcome to Generation 0 which is also the same tv frame used in TFG
T_3’s thumbnail and the teasing of TFG
The Founder’s Game
This leads me to conclude that it’s entirely plausible that the Founder does not even share the same universe as us.
Generation 0 is a different universe, from which the Founder and Showfall Media connected to us, to broadcast their experiments and tests to see just how much they can achieve with their technology and research. We are a pawn in their game and experience everything through broadcasts, yet we somehow directly affect other worlds through the screen with the Founder’s influence. Even our very own computer screens as we watched TSE live on Twitch is one of many screens we have observed everything through.
They're not here, they're broadcasting to us.
But we do have an impact. And so does someone else.
Red Text Person
Throughout genloss we’ve encountered someone I like to refer to as Red Text Person (just “Red” from here on out). They’re someone who has breached communications of Showfall Media’s broadcasts to us and sent red text our way, sometimes not even knowing what exactly they were doing or who they were communicating with.
Now, the usage of red becomes increasingly prevalent on all accounts, and yes this gets really confusing, but bear with me.
The first time we encounter “Red” may be traced back all the way to the first video, if you’re feeling daring enough, where a brief text flashes “Kill” instead of “Find the Founder”, though the first video honestly still has me a little confused as to who is showing us what exactly to begin with.
The next possible “Red” encounter occurs in “Connected”, where someone puts up posters to try and warn us about the Social Experiments not just being “a show”, how it “isn’t for us” and notably how “it has all changed, it has changed everything, it will change everything”.
This appears in red text on posters, which are quickly censored by Showfall’s missing posters of the Hero, which aptly form the shape of the Generation Loss logo:
The first solid time we see “Red” as actual red text in a video is in the “Announcement” video from Showfall.
A signal interrupts the company’s keynote video. We see “Red” asking “Hello? Where is this going? Is this working?” and then proceeds to tell us that “It already found him”, with the missing poster of the Hero showing. “Red” then mentions how “It got everyone, everyone but me, I have to save them, I have to stop them”, clueing us in to the possibility that Showfall was also after “Red” and they were meant to be a part of TSE or some other experiment. It’s possible this implies that “Red” is part of the same world Hero was from, seeing people being taken for the experiments, or that TSE took place in their generation/universe, or that they've at least seen the effects of the multiversal shenanigans first hand.
Either way, it’s clear enough that “Red” is against Showfall and the Founder and knows at least part of what’s going on so far.
The next time we hear from “Red” is a while later in T_3. Here “Red” seems a little bit more informed on everyone’s relative positions in everything, stating how “you don’t need to answer, I know you can’t talk back” and “I don’t know yet what you are or where for that matter” but that “you seem to be a key part of whatever this plan is”.
Now, considering T_3 is a video about TFG, this puts the text into two possible contexts:
It is directed at us, the audience, much like before, and we are part of the bigger plan, with “Red” wanting to show us exactly how the Founder and Showfall is doing horrible things
It is directed at Ben within the Founder’s game and “Red” may just try to save him and is unaware of a further audience (us), something that actually neatly ties in with another Figure I'll bring up in a bit
Continuing our look at what “Red” says, they mention an “it” and how they’re not sure if “it is aware of me, but I am aware that there is something at play, I have seen things that don’t seem possible”.
This could be the same “it” that “got everyone, everyone but me” that “Red” mentioned back in the Announcement video, which could allude to the orb or the Showfall organisation. “Red” having seen things that don’t seem possible are pretty alarming, considering those things so far have played within the orb’s grasp.
Either “Red” has been in the orb themselves, are still in there, have a way of seeing things that happen in the orb’s influence, or have seen the effects of the orb on people or their world. Many possibilities!
Either way “Red” also talks of “people there are no record of, yet they must exist” and “I need to show you what they have done and who they have done it to, but I don’t know how”, which strongly connects to the aspect of the multiversal generation loss, how people are going missing and change, how worlds change and suffer through the generation loss and so on.
After this, “Red” seems to be in a hurry, stating “There is something coming, the connection has gotten stronger”, alluding to possibly the start of TFG taking place or something else on the verge of happening.
This is the last time (as of writing this) that we’ve seen a direct interruption in a video from “Red.”
TFG’s Red Figure
So about that "other figure".
Again with the red, I know, but this one’s different (or is it). In The Founder’s Game, Ben catches glimpses of a red glitching and jolting figure that walks around the halls of the school. At first we were unsure whether this figure was benevolent or not, as it didn’t speak to us at the time, nor did it make clear what they wanted from us aside from following them. But now that some chapters have passed, we know more.
The Figure has continuously led Ben places, in what I think is an attempt to get him out of the orb’s influence. At the end of chapter 2 it leads us to the school’s main exit doors, where we decided to follow it to. As the Figure faces Ben, he experiences headaches, blurry vision, an out of body experience and even the sensation that the entire room appears to shake. This is quickly interrupted by a strange black substance pouring out of the lockers as the creature that tries to break into the school bangs on the exit doors.
The next time we see the Figure is in the lab where it opens a window for us to escape through, but as a consequence also offers a way for the creature to break in which causes Ben to run through the hallways again.
As the janitor dies (RIP) and Ben quickly follows him into death for the first time not long after, the school starts acting strangely, making it all the more difficult for Ben to find his way out.
Whenever Ben observes anything unnatural, like the hallways disappearing into darkness or the gravity in a classroom being all screwed up, he receives the same headaches, vision blurring or room-shaking symptoms as when he faced the Figure the first time. I believe this is Ben’s mind trying to make sense of things, and maybe even almost snapping out of the influence of the orb due to how “unbelieveable” and “surreal” his reality has become.
The only other people Ben comes across in the meantime are, as mentioned, the Janitor who dies and stays dead, and his history teacher who also succumbs to the creature and stays dead, later to be found in Ben’s locker.
Nobody else appears to reset when they die from Ben’s perspective, so it’s Ben’s actions and deaths that affect the world’s resets.
The next time Ben encounters the Figure is a good amount of time later in chapter 5, when he gets stuck in a loop within the classroom. The Figure passes by in a blur and opens the door to the classroom, allowing Ben to make an escape and run through the halls as many hands attempt to break into the room.
As he wanders the halls again, he also comes across certain areas that are ransacked, at first this appears to be because of the generation loss’s effects, but we learn when we encounter the Figure again in the science lab, that it is searching for something, as it makes a mess of the teacher’s desk where we find the book about String Theory and Parallel Universes.
Another ransacked room is the library, where Ben finds a notably red book he cannot read as he tries to pry open the pages and fails, upon which we are greeted with a by now familiar sounding sentence: “seems like it isn’t for you”.
It’s unsure what the Figure is looking for but if they’ve already looked through the library, it’s possible they either missed the red book or it wasn’t what they were looking for to begin with.
Either way, as the world around Ben falls apart further and further, the Figure comes to his aid once again near the end of chapter 6 when Ben is thrown around different universes after dying to the creature in multiple ways.
One possibility is that Ben wakes up in the school again, where it is more twisted than ever, but another one has him wake up in an arcade, a circus, a forest or a mirror maze.
The different scenarios play out as follows:
High school (6-10-1): Ben walks through a twisted version of the hallways as an intercom plays a glitchy evacuation message, the lights go dimmer with each step until Ben finds himself in a black void
Mirror maze (6-10-2): Ben sees different versions of himself through the mirror, all warped and transformed some way, which may be all his different versions that have run through the school, at some point as he gives up trying to find an exit, he punches a mirror, after which all reflections do the same with all the mirrors cracking and shattering as he closes his eyes
Arcade (6-10-3): Ben wakes up in an arcade, none of the kids present acknowledge him, he sees one arcade game light up red as the lights go out everywhere else, on the screen flashes a missing poster with “press to start” below it, but before Ben can do anything his vision goes black and a voice says “this one isn’t for you”
Circus (6-53873): Ben encounters the Fortune Teller who gives him the previously discussed dialogue, his vision goes black and we hear a voice say “this one isn’t for you”
Forest (6-423587): Ben wakes up in a forest where one tree holds the genloss symbol on its bark, he also finds the same red book as before in the library, yet he still cannot open it as his vision goes black upon touching it and a voice says again “this one isn’t for you”
It feels important to note that in three cases Ben is told that “this one isn’t for you” explicitly in white text as well, which is the Arcade, the Forest and the Circus. Though only the chapters of the Forest and Circus have oddly numbered chapter urls, where the Arcade’s one follows the familiar way of numbering them. The only other time I recall this happening is when we stumble upon the computer that asks for a password in chapter 4 which had the numbers ‘4-100’ at the end of its url.
Another note to keep in mind, or maybe just some cool foreshadowing, is that we have seen the circus theme before way back in the school’s theater, where the stage was set up in a circus theme.
In the Arcade we also see “^1500” show up three times in the text which may be a mistake or an indication that the world is fully falling apart.
In all cases, Ben ends up in a black void with all kinds of items from the different worlds all floating around and the Figure standing in the middle, signaling him to follow it.
However this time, in the source code of the site, we see that the Figure is actually trying to talk to Ben, only Ben can’t hear it, we however can:
The Figure asks Ben to follow it, and expresses empathy for his situation. When Ben tries to ask where they’re going, the Figure replies “away from here, out of here”.
The Figure leads Ben to, you guessed it, an all too familiar red orb. Upon arriving, the Figure says “we’re here” in the hidden source code as we’re this time shown the picture of the orb, the same image that was hidden in chapter 2, but now fully presented.
Ben is then absolutely taken in by the orb and feels drawn to touch it, which is where we currently are and have to choose whether to touch the orb or not.
I believe touching the orb will fling Ben out of this multiversal hell and back into the world we started in in chapter 2, at least I hope. It’s entirely possible he might be flung into another world that he didn’t originate from, but hey, we can hold a few positive thoughts yes?
If Ben gets out now, it might prevent his doomed fate to fully succumb to the generation loss effects and fully unravel, or potentially transform into a wire-robot like the ones we’ve encountered along the way in TSE and TFG.
(This post continues in part 3, the last part for now)
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Welcome to the Multiverse
We've all seen a certain red orb by now which first appeared on the generation loss website in the game centered around the Hero, a while before the Social Experiments were released.
As the Hero interacts with the orb behind the dumpster, we see visual glitches and suddenly find ourselves in a red tinted, damaged version of the world we were just in.
Well, next time we see this orb is around November 24th when the 2nd chapter of The Founder's Game (TFG) is released. Those who paid attention will have noticed it was hidden in the site's source code back when we encounter it.
The person we're controlling touches the orb and much like before, they wake up in a red tinted world, similar to the one they were in before touching the orb.
Now this red tint I keep bringing up may not have actually been there for the people in question, but it's a good way of conveying to us, the audience, that a change has occurred.
So how different-yet-the-same are these worlds? Well in TFG we're walking in a set of hallways with metal doors pre-orb, but a specific mention of posters of school clubs and teams let's us draw a similarity between this and the post-orb world. Even more specifically, the posters are "more worn than you remember", which makes the connection even less doubtful.
As Ben wakes up in LF High and wanders the hallways, we note that the environment is familiar to him, with the same type of school posters lining the walls alongside lockers.
So what does the orb have to do with the multiverse then?
Ben dies a lot in TFG, each time he wakes up again, the school is a little bit different. The changes become more surreal the more Ben comes to die. Lockers change colours, but then hallways physically twist and gravity acts strangely.
It's easy to brush things off as "part of the game", with Ben dying and resetting just being a mechanic. But we are clever enough to realise that whatever Showfall presents us is actually happening to someone, somewhere.
Another hint awaits us in the science lab in TFG, where we find a book titled "String Theory and Parallel Universes"
In an earlier theory I posted here on tumblr I already brought up a possible multiverse theory when we were repeatedly confronted with the "tunnels" in the genloss videos, but I will get back to this later.
If all these schools are supposed to be parallel universes, why do they differ SO much by the time Ben died a couple times? It could be happenstance that the changes get worse over time instead of random levels of chaotic. However the fact that the strange shifts happen so chronologically tells me that it's something else.
Now what could we possibly call a phenomenon where something gets progressively worse each time it undergoes a certain process?
It's Generation Loss Babyyyyy
The Generation Loss we often thought was solely connected to the VHS tapes has a much greater scope!
However it occurs, it definitely has something to do with the orb's influence or power, causing whoever touches it to relive a part of their world over and over (maybe within a pocket dimension?), until the generation loss sets in each time they die.
To tie it back to the Founder and TSE, it's interesting to look at the orb's possible influence in the earlier timeline as well.
At first I thought the rewinding of the Founder's Cut tapes was causing the Hero to relive their nightmare over and over, but now it seems like the tapes and VCR controls may just be that - controls to let the Founder use the orb and make people relive things until everything is to their wishes.
With how limited Ben's world felt, it's possible there are certain parameters set up by either the orb's limitations or the Founder, to create a controlled environment.
To me it feels like the generation loss is a symptom of the orb, either deliberately used by the Founder, or a side effect they can't quite control.
The Orb
Yes that red thing again. I believe it may be the centerpiece of our story, with the genloss symbol itself - however iconic and ever present - being more of an assist.
The orb is very dangerous, especially if it's a tool the Founder is using to create their "perfect stories". The effect of the orb affects many, and I believe it's possible it may have affected the very Founder themselves too, though I'm keeping that open for another time.
What we do know of the orb so far is that by touching it, you undergo its influence and "enter its world", however it's also possible to find the orb yet again within this world, which to me indicates touching the orb may provide an exit to whoever is under its effects. This may be the only way out for Ben, unfortunately I doubt his physical changes will revert.
Back in TFG, we're shown many mutations of Ben over time as he looks into the mirror.
Now there's plenty of people who have drawn the parallels already between Ben's unravelling and the robotic creature we saw back in chapter 2 in the holding cell.
As the multiverse and parallel universe theories go, there's a lot of different, but also similarities present between them. One such consistent theme is that of Ben's association with robots.
Each time he awakens in the class room, the class's subject changes, but his sketchbook doodles do not: There's always one of a robot.
Other details that follow this theme is when Ben is strangled with electrical wires by the creature roaming the halls and gets a computer screen thrown at him.
It's entirely possible Ben is undergoing something that the wire-creature from the holding cell has gone through before. It wouldn't surprise me if this was one of the many ways the Founder uses the orb.
The Founder and Showfall Media
We know very little of the Founder and Showfall, but by going through tweets, videos and any piece of context we get, we can try to figure some things out.
One thing that stood out to me for a long time was the special keynote we got in “Announcement” over on youtube. A representative of Showfall tells us that they have been providing entertainment for families around this world and that they now have connected with a new frontier to which they want to bring their influence with a new live experience which ends up being the Social Experiments.
The wording is so specific and was some of the first near-solid proof to me that there’s something multiversal going on.
Even when referring to the Founder’s cut in the video "Again", there is the specific mention that it is the “first, a test of what is possible with infinity”, which at first sounded like a tape-rewinding situation, but now with the orb involved may mean literal universal infinity. A sort of disclaimer at the start of "Coming_Soon" also mentions that what wer're about to see actually happend, just not here.
At some point Showfall connected to a new frontier (our world) to show us TSE and “bring their influence” to us. Which might mean that Showfall (and the Founder) have plans to change or influence our world with their “entertainment” too.
In any case, we learn a bit more about this and the Founder’s behavior towards the matter of these stories and frontiers when we receive a letter from the Founder’s desk. It is encoded in what we’ve come to call the Founder’s Cipher, and was addressed to a certain “you”.
Within the text, looking back on it with the multiversal theory in mind, many sentences stand out like:
“There were many like you, but I knew you were special.”
“There is more beyond what I watch.”
“I can create anything.”
“I will create something perfect.”
It’s possible the Founder will use the orb and many more innocent victims to manipulate worlds and people to turn them into a perfect story. The precise motive as to why this is all happening is unclear, but we've been given some vague hints through a certain character Ben meets along his way.
It’s a bit too vague right now to be entirely certain, but when Ben encounters the Fortune Teller and presses its button, we are treated to some deliciously vague allusions of an internal struggle:
“You know this will kill you, you’re chasing someone else’s dream. You are losing everything in the process. What is it all for? The hope of salvation? The hope to do what you believe you are meant to be doing? What is it that you even want anymore? Is this even for you? Who is this even for? Answer me, please.”
We’re told that this audio occurs as the Fortune Teller’s mouth opens after Ben presses the button, so it’s easy to assume this is directed at Ben, which it might as well be, though if we were to assume it’s directed at someone else, like the Founder, the meaning of the text becomes very interesting.
What if the Founder is chasing someone else’s dream? Perhaps someone they looked up to? Someone they lost? This could be grounds for a motive on why they’re desperately forming perfect stories, testing what is possible with infinity, maybe to regain something or someone? Maybe out of revenge? Out of love? Out of spite?
Whatever it is, it has gone wrong and has cost them everything, to the point they may not even know themselves what it’s all for. Perhaps the Founder, through their research and endless experiments, has lost themselves to generation loss too, losing their humanity and everything else along with it. Maybe even more?
Sadly we can only speculate on who it addresses and what it precisely means, but the Fortune Teller has definitely peaked my interest.
Infinitely so (hah) when Ben encounters the machine again in a circus in chapter 6. Here, when we choose not to press the button, the Fortune Teller shows possible awareness of the fourth wall, of us being in control, as he says he’s glad we “explored our options”, but then ends up speaking without the button even being pressed. He even directly responds to the text we see on our screen where we claim to “not have time for this”, as he responds with “I think you do”.
The second time we hear the Fortune Teller speak, however, it’s specified that it is in a different voice:
“He is the end and the beginning, do you ever wonder why everything is happening like this? Or why this damn thing keeps appearing every single time? Or why everyone, everyone but me, seems to just ignore this? It’s not just that, it was never just that. You don’t get it, this isn’t for me. Or for you. It is for everyone here. This is important. What I do.. is finally important.”
The Fortune Teller then tells us it’s almost like “we were meant to see this” in his regular voice.
Now this second text reads as a recording of part of a conversation between two or more people. Someone is telling someone else that “he” is the beginning. So who is talking to who? And who is “he”?
If we are to assume the “he” is the Founder, then it sounds like this is a conversation between two coworkers who maybe work for the Founder, talking about possibly the orb appearing in places, and how it’s “for everyone”.
Though if we assume the person speaking is the Founder, then it may just be that the Founder was looking up to someone who started the work, and ended up finishing it for some reason, feeling like their work is important and impacts many. Though the first assumption feels more obvious.
It’s also fun to note that “beginning” was the password to the Founder’s Game website the first time we found it through the VHS tapes of the Founder’s Cut. However no fitting password has yet been found to the computer.
The Generation and Screens
Probably one of my favourite chapters in my big boy theory.
To look at the bigger picture of it all, what once may have been a simple timeline of literal generations, could now turn into a mess of universes and time periods that all come together to show us the true extent of the Founder’s influence.
I’ve mentioned this before, but another great visual marker of the bridging between “generations” is the text in the corner of several genloss videos, showing us when we’re dealing with generation 0 or generation 1. Much like a camcorder has the date in the corner of the screen, we see the generation something was recorded in. This goes hand in hand with the "tunnels" I've mentioned before.
Whenever we seem to move to Generation 1 we go forward through the tunnel, yet backwards when dealing with Generation 0.
At first I thought this meant time travel or a multiversal scenario, now I'm definitely more inclined to choose the latter. The tunnels appear to work as divides between the worlds, possibly using the orb to cross them.
Once again red is a prevalent colour, much like the red orb, the red tinted worlds, the generation loss symbol and the red square associated with the Founder.
Where do we stand in all this? Well mostly every form of visuals we’ve seen from Showfall or the Founder has been through a screen, be it the VHS tapes people bought, the Social Experiments through twitch, or the games through a literal monitor on the website which doubles up with out own phones/computers/devices we access the site through. It’s always screens (which honestly also really lends itself well for the “careful what media you consume” or “all media is influenced somehow” allegories throughout genloss).
Almost forgot to post these renders here, I’m getting close to mimicking the Founder’s game style, having a lot of fun with it! I love the style so much, I just had to figure out how to do it for myself.
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