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Hi! I have finished route S+ and played all the extra content (Records, Hermit Room, Interlude), but I still don't understand some things 😭. 1) Why did Utsugi cut off Hajime's lower body and eat it? 2) For what reason did he hate Minoru Harada? 3) Did Hajime's condition worsen because he was a fragment or was it related to his mental state? 4) This had something to do with the cell inhibitor, but why did Haruki tell Reiji not to use his power towards the end of route S? (1/4)
This is a lot of questions! It'll take me some time to get through all four parts, so please be patient with me.
This got a lot longer than I expected. Please feel free to form your own conclusions.
1) Why did Utsugi cut off Hajime's lower body and eat it
He did not Literally Eat Hatsutori's lower half. The melting started because of Seodore. (Record 5)
And then Utsugi shows up and fights off Seodore and then Takes Half of Hajime's Body. (I'm not screenshotting every line because I'll hit the image limit, so please rewatch the full scene for more context).
And you can see this scene again in Record 7, in Utsugi's version.
Hatsutori is dying. Utsugi wants more than anything to stop it. So he does!
2) For what reason did he hate Minoru Harada?
He didn't hate Minoru. the screenshots here are from records 6 and 7. I can't get everything obviously but I think rewatching might help! There are a lot of good scenes between them.
he gets told very very clearly that everything will end in ruin if Minoru stays. He likes minoru! he does! but that's a part of the problem.
He does everything he can to get Minoru to leave, and to stay away. He can't tell him why. He can't explain it. Because to explain is to burden Minoru with the curse of knowledge that Utsugi has no idea how to cope with. And he does, even still, try to reach out for help. He tries to ask Minoru for help and Minoru FUMBLED. But they don't hate each other.
They fight, and they argue and disagree, but they don't hate each other.
I can't screenshot every line like this but he makes it pretty clear, i think.
I haven't included the entire record 7 ending monologue here but it's really good!!
3) Did Hajime's condition worsen because he was a fragment or was it related to his mental state?
His powers react to his mental state. Is this what you were thinking about? His physical condition of missing half his body is because of the fight in 1999.
4) This had something to do with the cell inhibitor, but why did Haruki tell Reiji not to use his power towards the end of route S?
This was ambiguous. my general interpretation was that if they used their powers, theyd be more closely connected to Hatsutori, so when the belfry rang, they'd die too. (these screenshots are from S, not S+).
He says this again somewhere else, but I can't find it... I'd need to dig for it ^^;
It's okay, please take all the time you need to reply ❤️. I'm sorry for asking so many questions, but even after searching online and replaying some parts, I still couldn't figure some things out or be completely sure that I understood them correctly ><
It's okay! ^^; I just don't want to leave you hanging for too long. I know it's a long game with a lot of moving parts
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to the people who sent anons with questions about coe -- i'll answer all your questions but it may take me a bit of time 🙇 I need to get together all the screenshots i need
to the person who asked more than a dozen questions - thats a lot of questions so im working on it! but i highly recommend replaying DLC! Many of your questions are answered there, and I think a second playthrough will help you get a more solid understanding.
Thank you so much, you are truly a lifesaver 🥺. I had assumed that the English version of the name Theodore (seodoa セオドア) had been translated unconsistenly (hence Seodore and Theodore) but it turned out it wasn't the case at all. I checked the Japanese version after reading your reply, and the non-English version of the name (teodoru テオドル) is also used. (1/2)
Thank you for reading!! I'm happy to help <3
Yes, the japanese version makes the distinction between Theodore and Seodore as well! This is especially clear in record 5, because Hatsutori asks if it's "Theodore" and is told not to call him that. (The artbook also spells it "SEOdore" on Seodore's page)
I tried checking the chinese translation (this is from a recording on bilibili), and they make the same distinction!
I don't know how this was translated in Korean; I've seen Seodore's name, but I don't know how clear the Seo/Theo distinction is ^^; I'm not familiar enough with korean to check (well, i don't know chinese either, but I can recognize Seodore's name, at least).
The Chainsaw incident that I mentioned is a nickname for the Hermit's Room Soundfile 1954/04. I apologize, i should have used the official scene name instead of my nickname for it.
He decapitates himself with a chainsaw (you can hear the buzzing of the chainsaw.) I've taken screenshots of the english lines here!
This can be corroborated by the artbook, where you can see the jagged scar around Seodore's neck!
This is a separate incident from the dream that Seodore had in Interlude. I have thoughts on that scene but I'll need a bit of time to write them out 🙇 I think that scene plays a role in a larger theory.
As far as name changes go, Cell of Empireo as a whole emphasizes the importance of a chosen name and chosen identity. (I'm going on a bit of a tangent here)
Haruki Atou is Haruki Atou, and chooses to live as such. He accepts Haruki Isoi as a part of his life and a part of what happened to him, even if Haruki Isoi is dead. Those experiences mattered to him.
For Seodore: "Theodore" is dead. Seodore is his own person in his own right, and he repeatedly affirms this separation that he is not Theodore and does not want to be. (as I talked about before, so I won't repeat myself lol).
Sanemitsu Isoi chooses to live as as such. Minoru Harada is a part of him too, but he chooses to live as snmt. With his wife's last name, and the name given to him by Hajime, carrying his past with him.
And Our Reiji Isoi chooses this name. He asks Sanemitsu for it, and it's his. He didn't have a name before. And with a name, he gained a family, and a life. The Radiant and Illuminating Reiji Isoi <3
(sniffles,, he loves his dad)
I just think it's sweet. You decide who you want to be, and how you want to live.
