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Alr yall I WIILL be making one of those "ask this character" things but with Angela after like a week so u should put some things in my ask so I can have a start ✌️😚

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Shepfart designs
Angela ily
Pop art style Angela Shepard + old notebook doodles from two years ago
Man, I used to draw like this all the time back in 2023- just sorta foolin around and having fun lol. (You can see hints of this in my current intro post i think?) I lowkey miss it ngl! It’s really fun
Is it a little hard to look at? Sure. But I dig it :)
alt version (w/o texture) + less painful to look at version:
ANGELA!!
just drew Mark and Bryon and lemme tell ya- Mark was like so easy and so fun to draw, barely even thought about it, didn’t even sketch much underneath it just came out really nice first go.
Now BRYON ON THE OTHER HAND-
fuckin redrew him THREE TIMES and I’m still not happy. but I’m too tired to care so it is what it is >:(
Idk I’ve been halfheartedly referencing John Cusack because Bryon describes himself as looking like “a Saint Bernard puppy” and the closest face I can think of based on that is 80s John Cusack (although bear with me here, idk that many faces, and i only vaguely know what a St. Bernard looks like). Anyway- I say halfhearted because I don’t want him to be…directly Cusack either. Idk it doesn’t quite feel right n I dunno why??
Anyway it’s plain to see that the referencing was half baked because this Bryon does not look like John Cusack at all imo.
Idk I’m having a hard time balancing “puppy” and also “teenage hoodlum”…and movie Bryon is no help whatsoever because that is not Bryon to me at all…ugh I dunno. What do y’all h/c Bryon looks like??
Interesting fact of the day, Angela shepard is Cannon in the spider verse. Just thought I would let you guys know this

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Darry... How does it feel to be a hater.
How does it feel to a BITCH.
It feels GREAT. THANKS FOR ASKING 😡.
That was Then, This is Now character designs!
I'm gonna do more later because I want to do M&M, Cathy, Curly, and maybe Tim.
To me at least the Shepard siblings are like the worst version of The Curtis brothers. Tim is like Darry but he had to grow up to be colder and tougher to support his family but had to do things illegally to make things work. Angela is like Soda but wasn’t raised with that kindness that Soda had. She’s beautiful and attracts boys like honey to flies but does it as a means to an end. Curly is like Ponyboy but he had to grow up to be tougher and meaner due to his family name. He’s proud of it too, he doesn’t see himself as anything other than a Greaser.
Word of god
(This is going to be a VERY long post so buckle up)
Word of god is a phrase used in fandom that refers to something that the author of the source material has said, but was never confirmed in the source material. Because it was never confirmed in the original material, it isn’t considered canon. However, word of god is basically the next step down from canon.
This means that while you can choose to ignore it, you can also choose to accept it.
In the outsiders fandom, there are certain “word of god” type things floating around. Think soda going to Vietnam (and then that being retconned) or Johnny’s legal name being John. Even Dallas being scared of spiders, of crying after he read little women, of Steve enjoying wearing women’s underwear (?).
These are all examples of word of god. They were not mentioned in the outsiders book, but they are all things S.E Hinton has said on her twitter and in other places.
I’m only sharing the definition because what a lot of people never seem to talk about (possibly because they don’t know or because they don’t know how to access it) is S.E Hinton’s fanfiction. I think a lot of people would enjoy learning about some of the other things S.E Hinton has said about the characters. (Keep in mind, on her ffn account, she claims to not be S.E Hinton, but using the details she’s shared about her fanfiction in interviews, it’s pretty obvious that this is her account)
Just keep in mind, none of this is canon unless you personally want it to be. Don’t harass other people for accepting or not accepting any of this as canon. Fandom is supposed to be fun, and that includes letting other people make their own personal spaces and headcanons.
I’m going to share all of her outsiders fics here (as in, I’m going to link them so others can read them too) and then I’m going to share every detail that I noticed. If you read them and notice things I missed or didn’t talk about, PLEASE REBLOG WITH THOSE THINGS!
First fic- The Haircut, published in 2008. This takes place after their parents die but there is no mention of Johnny or Dallas, so it could be before or after their deaths
Fanfic: The Haircut, Outsiders | FanFiction
- Pony cuts his brothers’ hair (or at least Soda’s) probably because they can’t afford a professional haircut
- Either pony is really bad at it (possible, as seen in the book with Johnny) or Soda is incredibly dramatic
- Darry checks pony’s homework
- Pony is not great at math but does well in English, however he still misspells things (which makes the fact that he judges sodas spelling or grammar in the letter soda sent in the outsiders very funny)
- Soda is likely very forgetful (he forgot that he left the iron on and burnt a hole on his work uniform)
- This is something we could have figured out anyway because of the time period, but it’s implied that their mother would have been the one cutting their hair and ironing their clothes.
Second fic- The first Christmas After, published in 2008 (shortly before Christmas too, on December 14) this takes place after their parent’s death and after Johnny and Dally’s death.
Fanfic: The First Christmas After, Outsiders | FanFiction
- The Curtis brothers are willing to forgo tradition in order to save money (Darry says they agreed on no Christmas tree and mentioned avoiding getting a turkey for thanksgiving, even though they ended up getting one anyway because Darry’s job gave it to them)
- Soda apparently is not actually a decent cook. People like to headcanon that his cooking tastes okay and just looks funny or tastes a bit too sweet, but apparently soda seriously fucked up the turkey.
- Twobit is willing to eat gross stuff (he ate the turkey and darry jokes twobit would willingly eat cat shit)
- The Christmas tree is also free, like the turkey. Soda got it at work. I guess the Curtis brothers are pretty lucky, or they have jobs that kind of care about them (wild idea)
- I think this was mentioned in the book, but Darry is very casual about drinking. He grabs a beer after work.
- The real reason Darry didn’t want a tree is because he knows it’ll be upsetting to do christmassy stuff without their parents.
- Darry will shove his feelings down to try and make the holidays enjoyable for his brothers
- Steve has a mother who is active in his life. This is crazy to me because everyone just kind of assumed he didn’t have a mother. I will continue to deny her existence though lol
- Steve’s mother cares enough about the Curtis boys to send Steve over with some fudge.
- The Curtis brothers have their own ornaments. Soda’s is a car colored like a candy cane, Darry’s is a reindeer holding a football, and pony’s is an elf reading a book. The ornaments were from their father.
- There’s a joke that I think I’m not catching? I think it’s twobit saying that he called a girl a ho, but it might be innocent? I’m not the best with tone. He’s making a Santa Claus joke
- Twobit likes eggnog (gross) and shares it with soda. The eggnog has whiskey in it, which is what gets Steve interested in drinking it.
- The Curtis brothers had a dog named bowser, who also had an ornament. Bowser was a present for Darry’s fourth birthday. Darry assumed he was the only one that remembered bowser, but soda claims to remember him too. I guess this means bowser died when soda was very little. Possibly before pony or when pony was a baby.
- A lot of the Christmas ornaments are crafts that the Curtis boys made at school. (Aww) Darry and soda grew up faster than Ponyboy did, apparently pony was willing to do kid stuff longer than they were (they stopped wanting to make crafts by middle school but pony did them even after) Darry thinks it’s because their mom wanted to keep her baby a baby.
- The boy’s personalities show in the ornaments they made, Darry’s are well structured and planned, but with zero imagination. Sodas are sloppy and not great, but hold character. Pony’s are said to be eye catching and imaginative.
- Pony is supposed to call Darry from a pay phone if he realizes he’s going to be late for curfew. Pretty solid rule, I think
- Mr. Curtis wasn’t actually better at understanding people than Darry is. The main difference seems to be Mr. Curtis’s patience in dealing with people he doesn’t understand. Darry compares himself to his dad
- Their mother and father also have ornaments! Their mother is an Angel playing the piano (considering the other ornaments, we can assume their mother knew how to play piano) and their dad’s is a Santa going fishing (I guess he liked to fish)
- This is basically canon anyway, but pony was too skinny and frail after Johnny and dally died
- Soda is lactose intolerant. This does not stop him from consuming lactose. He is kind and sleeps on the couch when he does so that pony doesn’t have to listen to him farting all night (disgusting)
- Darry understands soda even if soda doesn’t say anything. So I guess Darry not understanding pony isn’t because pony is quiet and doesn’t tell him anything
- They have ornaments for Johnny and dally. Johnny’s is a little dark haired Angel singing a hymn, and Dally’s is a little devil with wings and a halo with an evil smirk.
- Johnny doesn’t like cutesy things. He is a greaser, he’s still tough. They all decide that Johnny and Dallas would like if they saw their ornaments.
- Joking about Johnny and dally makes the gang a little happier. Even after death, they bully Dallas a bit because they miss him (the hang him at the top of the tree 😭💔 and they giggle about looking up his ornaments skirt)
- Dallas would allegedly have set fire to the tree if he was there and saw them doing that
- Steve has a bunch of cousins in Muskogee Oklahoma, as well as an Uncle Bob
- Twobit’s sister is named Bren. Twobit is close with his grandmother and is visiting her for Christmas. He is going to give her whiskey for her present because his mom doesn’t let her have it.
- Soda likes to attack his brothers with tickles
The third fic- The Drive North, published in 2007. This is the longest fic, and it’s an au. I have several disclaimers I think I should make before I talk about it.
Disclaimer one- this is a Wild West au, it takes place in the late 1860s. Because it’s an au, there are some things that don’t really translate to canon. I will be sharing things that are canon to this fic, and maybe expanding how I think they’d fit into canon, but just remember, they do not fit perfectly
Disclaimer two- some of the things changed directly contradict canon. Several of the characters go by different names, some of them even have the wrong ages (I originally assumed everyone was the same age as in canon, but then mason and Tex from Tex showed up and they were ten years older than everyone else which doesn’t make sense because Tex takes place in the 70s and they should be younger than the gang), and some of the characters have pretty different back stories (the Shepard siblings are orphans in this and they’re being raised by their grandfather. This contradicts canon because in That was then, this is now, they are said to have their mother and a stepfather)
Name changes
- Steve is called pistol
- Angela is called Angelique
- Twobit is called Two bits, and his real make was changed from Keith to Eugene.
- Dallas is called White snake, which leads me to my next, and the most important, disclaimer
Disclaimer three- there is a lot of racism in this fic. Mostly weird Native American representation. This mostly comes from Dallas and Tim, but basically dallas is a white child that was kidnapped by native Americans and was then raised by them. Tim’s parents were killed by native Americans (which is of course a thing that happened back then, but I don’t think it’s written very well) These are common racist tropes, and I think it would do people good to be aware of that if they choose to read this fic.
There is also a few brief references to slavery and the civil war, and off the top of my head, I don’t think any of the characters were particularly against slavery. So if you want to read this, be aware of that so you don’t get caught off guard. There’s also a few slurs/incredibly outdated terms
I think thats the end of the disclaimers, if anyone else thinks of something I should add, tell me. I think this fic is an interesting look into the characters, but I don’t want people going in blind and unaware of the negative aspects of this fic
Fanfic: the drive north Ch 1, Outsiders | FanFiction
- The Shepard’s grandpa is named Philippe Shepard (Shepard is spelled different several times through the story, so is Philippe) he is fairly well off, I don’t think he’s rich, but he is successful. He has a Spanish gelding which is a fancy horse. Darry is jealous of him. Philippe is a former Texas ranger and he is very strict and good at bossing people around
- The Curtis brothers are doing a cattle drive under Philippe’s supervision. He’s their boss basically
- Soda’s real name is actually Patrick in this, and “Soda” is short for Sodacrackers because he likes hardtack.
- Everyone loves soda. Just looking at him makes people feel good
- Pony was a solemn baby that liked to study his surroundings. He was only silly when he was around horses, which is where he got the nickname Ponyboy. (His real name is Michael)
- Pony and soda are uncannily good with horses, which is why Philippe Shepard hired the Curtis brothers. Darry seems to really admire Philippe actually, he doesn’t shut up about that old man
- Curly Shepard is described as a hot-head, who doesn’t seem particularly skilled because he’s riding drag. This is the worst position to take because the dust gets kicked up at you. Curly was very upset about getting that position
- The Curtis parents died at different times in this. Their mother seems to have died of some sort of sickness because her death is described as “lingering”. Their dad went off to war (the civil war, on the confederate side. This does not make me fond of Mr. Curtis) when Darry was fifteen.
- Philippe Shepard does not support slavery. He also seems to have an anti-war stance. At least for himself. He says he won’t get his head blown off so people can own slaves. Philippe Shepard fought against the Mexicans and the Comanche at some point, and has enough experience with war to know he doesn’t like it
- Ponyboy has a paint pony
- Pony cried after he said good bye to the lake (the Curtis brothers are leaving their house for good) because he spent a lot of time at the lake. Darry seems embarrassed of him for that
- Pony wears soda’s hand me downs, but they still don’t fit him because he’s scrawny.
- Pony is tough physically, but incredibly emotional
- Soda has a chestnut mustang horse
- The Curtis brothers will be relatively well off after the drive. Darry plans on sending Pony to a school so he can put his book smarts to use and live in a society where that stuff matters
- The first chapter is repeated twice lmfaooo
- Two bit does not like Philippe. Philippe also uses flattery to get his way lol
- Twobit is the cook, which I guess means in canon he could be a decent cook too. He learned how to cook from his mom
- Mr Shepard is in love with Twobits mom 😭
- Mr Shepard also uses his money to get his way
- Twobit’s sister is named Lizzy in this one. Either he has a shit ton of sisters, or his one sister does not have a decided name
- Mr Shepard does not approve of ms Mathews babying Twobit. His eye twitches when she says he’s “just a boy”
- The Curtis brothers are said to have sold their eggs to make money
- Johnnys name is John, and he’s named after his father. So he’s John jr. He’s also called “little John Cade” 😭😭❤️❤️ and he’s going to be twobit’s assistant
- Dallas is their scout/interpreter. Original when I read this, I thought Dallas was actually Native American and I thought that was interesting. But no, he’s just a White guy that was raised that way. I think native Dallas would be very cool to see though, becuase I hate the trope of white people being raised by native Americans instead of people just writing native Americans
- Twobit is lazy. He doesn’t like getting up early or walking
- Mr Shepard does NOT think twobit is funny. I think he might actually hate him
- Mr Shepard spanks his grandkids and he makes sure to tell everyone. He also seems fully willing to spank other peoples kids too (he threatens twobit) He is very strict with his grandkids. He says he uses a quirt, I looked that up and it looks scary
- Mr Shepard is genuinely mean asf, and he seriously doesn’t like twobit oh my god
- Mr Shepard is seriously down bad for ms Mathews. He hates twobits dad 😭 he even calls the dude worthless
- Twobit’s dad was a sweet talking drummer who only stayed around long enough to give her kids
- Philippe has dark eyes and white hair
- Philippe was present when twobit got the nickname twobit. I think twobit isn’t particularly proud of his nickname.
- People don’t seem to like Dallas. I’m not talking other people, even the gang seems kind of uncomfortable around him. Also the gang isn’t a gang. I don’t think they’re necessarily even friends here.
- Curly is confirmed to be just a nickname. His real name is not shared
- Twobit got his nickname when he was ten. Instead of it meaning that he has a big mouth and will give his “two bits” to any conversation, it means that he’s so useless that you wouldn’t give “even two bits for him”. The twobit lovers can feast on any angst that provides. It explains why he doesn’t like his nickname in this
- Twobit’s little sister worships him and his mother adores him
- Another reference to Mr Shepard having a big old crush on Twobit’s mom 😭 this point is really being driven home, and it takes twobit a while to realize. He is horrified when he dies and almost drops a barrel on Johnny 😭
- Jesus Christ Philippe won’t stop threatening people. He says “every pound lost is money out of my pocket, and I catch anyone taking money out of my pocket there's going to be an inch off his hide.” Which curly confirmed is true and not just a phrase.
- Pony doesn’t give a fuck about cows. He calls them meat on hooves 😭
- Pony, pre fic, never liked going into town and didn’t like people. I don’t think he’s friends with Johnny (yet)
- Darry likes talking to people and sharing his opinions. He’s respected in their town
- Pony doesn’t think he’ll ever grow as big as Darry or soda. I find this interesting because I always just assumed he was small because he was younger.
- Pony prefers animals to people
- Pony likes to watch people instead of talk to them. This is already kind of canon, but it’s funny to hear him talk about it
- Darry has to ride big horses because he’s a big boy. It’s also implied that he’s still growing?! Apparently he’s still filling out into his frame. How fucking big is he going to get jfc
- Soda likes pretty horses, but he’s smart enough to pick horses based off of their speed
- Steve and curly both like hot (I’m assuming wild) horses. The difference is Steve can handle it, curly can’t. Curly got thrown off his horse 😭
- Tim and his grandpa both ride the fancy Spanish horses. They’re very pretty but pony feels tired just looking at them because of how jittery they are. But they never get tired
- Tim and his grandpa are long boned? I think this means tall? Or maybe they have long limbs lol. They’re also said to be heavy muscled. I don’t know if that contradicts Tim’s description in the outsiders, where he’s described as lean. I don’t know if heavy muscled means bulky, but it feels like it would? Tim can be lean and still muscular but the way it’s written makes him sound pretty different from the book
- Curly is convinced that he’s going to have one of the fancy horses one day, but Tim and Mr Shepard think he’s stupid for thinking that. So I guess he probably won’t. In their family, you have to earn a fancy horse, and curly hasn’t earned one yet
- Dallas rides a white horse that he stole.
- Buck Merrill is the sheriff? I find that very interesting because he was just a party guy in the outsiders
- Dallas is wearing a breechcloth, but sometimes wears pants. He also wears eagle feathers and face paint. I don’t know if that means anything. He is said to be Comanche (or at least associated with them)
- Dallas cut off Johnnys dad’s ear and wears it on his belt as a trophy. He did this because Johnnys dad was beating Johnny, so I guess they’re still close in this fic
- Everyone can sense Tim and Dally’s tension (it’s not sexual, it’s worse) and they are placing bets on who will fight who first
- Steve claims Dallas grabbed a creature off the ground and ate its head off
- Dallas has a sweet tooth
- Dallas only really talks to Johnny
- Johnnys dad is a blacksmith, and he’s huge.
- Twobit is a gossip, he makes sure he knows ALL the goings on. Every day he takes a one hour walk across the town to see everything
- Johnnys dad is suspected to have hearing loss and a bad temper
- Johnny got his scar from his dad back handing him with a hoof file (this is the event that caused Dallas to cut Mr cades ear off)
- Ever since then, Johnny has had less bruises
- The younger people on the job get to have more sleep 🥺 tim and darry work early in the morning and late at night because of that
- Angela snuck along 😭 she wants to be treated like Tim and curly so she has been following them for the past few days. Mr Shepard is PISSED
- Mr Shepard’s scoldings have caused tears among many people, including Angela
- Mr Shepard CARRIES THE QUIRT AROUND to to threaten people
- Angela is just as good at riding and shooting as curly but not as good as Tim.
- Angela was meant to stay home and have sewing lessons while her family did the cattle drive
- Angela either dislikes doing girly things like sewing, or she just prefers doing horse stuff. I can’t tell if she’s meant to be a tomboy, which I feel doesn’t necessarily fit with her character in twttin, or if she just thinks sewing lessons are boring.
- Dallas knew Angela was sneaking around, which means he is sneakier than Angela Shepard.
- Mr Shepard would 100% beat Dally’s ass which is notable because so far he’s respected Dallas a lot as an adult. He’s very upset that Dallas knew Angela was there and didn’t say anything
- Tim and curly are said to play pranks on angela which is why she’s so sneaky and suspicious
- Dallas cut off a piece of Angela’s hair. This is strange to me because he didn’t have a reason to do that? In the fic he uses it to prove that he was watching her, but how was he supposed to know he needed to prove that? Why did he cut a lock of her hair? Freak
- Dallas calls Angela a scrawny prairie chicken? So I guess she’s small and skinny.
- Tim ends up being the one to start a fight between him and Dallas
- I think Dallas enjoys making Tim angry enough to start the fights. It makes sense to me tbh, it’s very funny and I think it fits with canon. Dallas slashed Tim’s tires in the book, and I guess he did that to get his attention
- Tim is racist, and this plays a part in his hatred for Dallas. It’s apparently because his parents were killed by native Americans, but Mr Shepard says that he needs to stfu because Dallas had nothing to do with that.
- Dally’s real family had a terrible fate and I think they were killed in either the same raid that killed Tim’s parents, or another one close to that one.
- The Shepards mom’s name is Antoinette and she had a fate worse than death. I say this because Mr Shepard says he wished he was there to put a bullet in her head to spare her from what happened to her. He doesn’t say what happened, but I guess it was pretty awful.
- Tim likes to punch and grapple, Dallas likes to dodge and kick
- They aren’t friends of any sort like in the book, there’s no “cut from the same cloth” here
- Curly, soda, and Steve would have been cheering and whooping if they’d been present, but they’re elsewhere at this time
- Pony and his brothers fight sometimes, but they usually give up pretty quick because Darry gets embarrassed fighting with teenagers, soda starts laughing, and pony will start crying out of frustration
- TIM PULLED A GUN ON DALLAS
- Curly almost shot his toe off practicing his fast draw, which led Mr Shepard to ban it 😭
- Tim, his siblings, and Dallas were all very young when their parents died. No specific age is given, but Philippe says they were all very little
- Philippe is their paternal grandfather (obviously) but he saw their mother as his own daughter and apparently she was very egg beautiful. He seems more sad about her death than his own son’s death
- Tim has an impressive fast draw
- Mr Shepard defends Dallas against Tim and says that he needs to cool it with the anti-native American talk. He says he understands why they’re all mad white people are in their lands. This doesn’t stop him from taking the land though.
- Angela is now riding drag as punishment so curly gets promoted I guess.
- Twobit exaggerates stories and Tim clips them too short. Pony is the best storyteller
- Pony doesn’t know what a “sporting woman” (a prostitute) does until soda explains it
- Pony understands sex, he just doesn’t understand why anyone would ever have it for fun lmfao
- Steve got his ass beat by his dad for wasting his wages on prostitutes 😭 I guess his dad does get physical with him
- Pony says if Steve knew half as much as he thought he did, he’d be the most valuable person on earth 😭
- Pony thinks sex is gross and begs soda not to have sex (soda refuses and says he’s gonna do what he wants)
- Darry really enjoys not being in charge. He likes that Philippe is in charge because then he isn’t responsible for his brothers. He hates babysitting and pretends not to see pony nonverbally begging him to come with him into town so he isn’t alone
- Mr Shepard calls pony and Johnny the youngest, but I know that in the outsiders curly is fifteen, so he’s in between them. Either curly is a different age in this fic, or Mr Shepard doesn’t see him as an individual person (which now that I’m typing that out, I think that’s probably the case)
- Johnny doesn’t like lots of people. As in crowds
- Darry makes pony and soda take at least one bath a month. Stinky boys
- I think pony and Johnny have become friends now, they’re naturally drawn to each other
- Pony yelps runs away from a prostitute because she talked to him? I don’t think the situation called for that? He seemed genuinely terrified and Johnny just followed him
- Neither of them know what the clap is, Johnny thinks they were going to “get clapped” 😭
- Pony likes cats but can’t have one because the coyotes will eat it (very sad, one of my cats got eaten by a coyote ☹️)
- Pony cries when he’s scared
- Twobit won thirty dollars playing a game (he told the people he’d give them a chance to win it back the next day, while knowing that he wouldn’t be there the next day 😭) that’s about 700 dollars today
- Steve tries to look cool in front of soda omgg
- Steve also seems jealous of how naturally cool soda is. He’s upset with himself for being jittery around the prostitutes when soda is so calm and charming
- Steve has a mustache 😒 he grew it out to look older and he fiddles with it subconsciously
- Soda is insecure about “just being charming and handsome” because it isn’t something he had to work for
- Soda immediately started venting to the prostitute ?
- Soda immediately talked about marriage with this prostitute, he hasn’t even done anything with her and he’s already in love with her
- He gave her his entire wage… he gave her TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS and told her to wait for him oh my god
- He saw her flirting with other guys and immediately thought about KILLING HER what the fuck
- THE OTHER GUYS WERE TIM AND DARRY!!
- They were described as tall cowboys so I guess that’s means Tim and Darry are both tall
- Philippe is sick of these teenagers. They all spent their money on dumb shit and he’s judging them hardcore
- Tim and Darry have become best friends at some point, they keep giggling with each other
- Curly gave himself alcohol poisoning the second he had access to alcohol which is kind of funny to me. Either he’s a serious drunk or he’s so inexperienced with alcohol that he die at know what a limit is. I don’t drink at all so I don’t know which makes more sense. I’m leaning towards the second one because of the way he’s characterized in this fic
- Steve gets mad when soda is sad, not mad at soda, just mad in general
- Tim and Darry became bffs because they ROBBED A POKER GAME WITH GUNS! ARMED ROBBERY! They did this to save twobit from being fired after twobit spent money that wasn’t his, which is kind of sweet of them.
- Curly is sad because he was trying to get the guys to enter a brothel (part of the reason he was drinking so much) and got so drunk that he woke up in an alleyway with all his money gone 😭. He laid in rant alley for a day and a half before Tim came and found him 😢 (my stupid son)
- Soda is embarrassed about falling in love with the first woman he saw
- Steve is mad all the time, and soda doesn’t understand how he does it. Soda finds anger exhausting
- Tex and mason are very… ?? Again, they’re ten years older than the gang, instead of ten years younger. They’re both bearded and wild. They live in the middle of nowhere and say that god has abandoned them. Tex says he shot mason to make him shut up
- Nobody has been sick yet except curly, so they have plenty of medical stuff
- Johnny compares Dallas to a knight in this (instead of a gallant soldier in the book)
- Tex says he shot mason because mason gave him a bad cup of coffee. They’re very strange
- Curly broke his pinky finger oh my god (I have to be honest and say everything curly does makes me giggle because he does so much stupid stuff. My baby broke his pinky 😭😭😭❤️❤️)
- Steve cracked his tail bone when his horse escaped, and Darry got bad rope burn
- Philippe likes Sodapop. He does think soda is tiring though
- Tim values the adoration and hero worship from curly and Angela to be too mean to them. He pretends to be indifferent to them, which fools everyone except Philippe (awww)
- Tex and mason are crazy, they talk so much trash and they’re so mean to each other. It gives everyone else a shock
- Angela has a crush on Tex, who is supposed to be around 24 ish. Tex has no plans on doing anything with her thank god
- Angela wanted to be a tomboy because boys got more attention, but now that she desires boys attention, she acts more feminine. This is masons insight because Angela starts acting sweet and precious the second she starts liking tex
- Tex became friends with everyone within a few days of them joining
- Curly is good enough at roping to teach Tex how to do it. It’s nice seeing him be good at something
- Tex took herding lessons from Tim and Darry
- Darry and soda mess with pony enough for him to be suspicious when people tell him things
- Dallas keeps doing things to piss Tim off (he whacked him in the head with a stick and rode off on his horse before Tim could do anything)
- Tim “doesn’t find anything humorous in anything white snake (Dallas) does” and is very grumpy when Dallas does something to make people laugh
- The story ends on a cliffhanger but that’s it
Anyway, take what you want from these fics as canon and disregard anything you don’t want lol
I'm the best shepard excuse you
Now why are we lying?? That won't even be true when pigs fly.

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Dropping this silly Alvin and the chipmunks au doodle before I go to sleep (Curtis boys are the chipmunks, Shepards are the chippettes)
I love that trope in tv shows where the main character and their family have another family that sort of parallels them in a way and I think that’s how I see the Curtis bros vs the Shepard siblings
Thus is so cute
I have not seen ANY art of Angela Shepard and Ponyboy Curtis WHAT SO EVER. so, here you go guys.
I have been gone for SOOO long, but here's Angela and Pony, a sneak peek on what I'm currently working on..😳
the Curtis gang (and the shepards lol) as calico critters
ANGELA!! and everyone else.. JK THEY ARE ALL SOOOO CUTE AGGGHG
Tim, Curly and Angela Shepard + Shepard Gang Information
Information taken about the Shepard’s family and the Shepard’s gang, from ‘That Was Then, This Is Now’ and ‘The Outsiders’ - Both by S E Hinton. (Includes quotes and facts from the books)
- The Shepard’s gang liked to hang out at “the alleys down by the tracks”
- A whistle that sounds “long and low, ending in a high note” is used by the Shepard gang for ‘who’s there?’
- Regarding Tim and Curly’s punishments with the law; “they’ve had about everything done to them. And they can’t take anything away from them because they don’t have anything in the first place. So they cut their hair.”
- “Some of us never cry at all. Like Dally and Two-bit and Tim Shepard - they forgot how at an early age.”
- When Tim slept over at the Curtis’ household; “reading the newspaper in the armchair. He merely looked up, said “Hi,” and strolled out without staying for breakfast.“
- “It’s too bad you and Dally can’t be in it. It’s the first big rumble we’ve had - not countin’ the time we whipped Shepard’s outfit.”
- Tim came by the hospital to see Dally
- “Tim and Dally had always been buddies.”
- Dallas explains why Tim came by; “Said he saw my picture in the paper and couldn’t believe it didn’t have 'Wanted Dead or Alive’ written under it. He mostly came to rub it in about the rumble.”
- “Only last week Tim Shepard had cracked three of Dally’s ribs. But Dally and Tim Shepard had always been buddies; no matter how they fought, they were two of a kind, and they knew it.”
- “Curly, who was tough, cool, hard-as-nails Tim in miniature, and I had once played chicken by holding our cigarette ends against each other’s fingers. We had stood there, clenching our teeth and grimacing, with sweat pouring down our faces and the smell of burning flesh making us sick, each refusing to holler, until Tim happened to stroll by. When he saw that we were really burning holes in each other he cracked our heads together, swearing to kill us both if we ever pulled a stunt like that again.”
- “Curly was an average downtown hood, tough and not real bright” 'he could take anything.“
- Curly was often in the reformatory
- "Tim was a lean, catlike eighteen-year-old who looked like the model JD you see in movies and magazines. He had the right curly black hair, smoldering dark eyes, and a long scar from temple to chin where a tramp had belted him with a broken pop bottle. He had a tough hard look to him, and his nose had been broken twice. Like Dally’s his smile was grim and bitter. He was one of those who enjoy being a hood. The rest of his bunch were the same way.” “Young hoods - who would grow up to be old hoods.” “they’d just get worse as they got older, not better.”
- “Tim had a tense, hungry look of an alley cat - that’s what he reminded me of, an alley cat - and he was constantly restless.”
- Tim gave out strict discipline as a gang leader, his gang was used to it
- Pony said that the difference between his gang and the Shepard’s was that they had a leader and were organized.
- Tim congratulated Pony on killing Bob
- “'Curly’s in the reformatory for the next six months.’ Tim grinned ruefully, probably thinking of his roughneck, hard-headed brother. "He got caught breaking into a liquor store, that little…” He went on to call Curly every unprintable name under the sun - in Tim’s way of thinking, terms of affection.“
- Tim is three years older than Curly
- Most greasers don’t have tuff builds, usually they’re "lean and panther-looking in a slouchy way.”
- “Shepard’s gang were used to fighting with anything they could get their hands on - bicycle chains, blades, pop bottles, pieces of pipe, pool sticks, or even sometimes heaters. I mean guns.”
- Referring to eye colour; “maybe dark-blue, like the Shepard boys’.”
- “holding the bottle the way Tim Shepard holds a switch - out and away from myself, in a loose but firm hold.”
- “Curly was a little dumb - he belonged to a gang led by his brother Tim”
- “Tim was alright - at least he had a few brains - but I considered Curly a dumb hood.”
- Angela Shepard is Tim and Curly’s sister
- “At Angela’s house her mother and her stepfather were always fighting and screaming and throwing things, and sometimes her brothers Tim and Curly would get in on it, and I’d sort of duck flying objects until Angela came out of her room, cussing and throwing things along with the rest of them.”
- Angela was beautiful with long hair and later even beautiful with short hair. The thing that made people turn away was her personality, she may have been a girl but she was a Shepard for sure. Angela was tough and could be very mean.
- Referring to Tim; “He scared me. He was what I would call a rough guy. Curly was mostly mouth, but Tim backed up anything he said. He really was a hood.” “Tim really was.” (not like kids on the east side who were called hoods just 'cause they lived there)
- “Curly was keeping his mouth shut - even he was awed by his big brother. There was something about Tim Shepard - his scarred face, his fighter’s slouch, the flickering of his black eyes - that really let you know he meant business.”
@bluemirrorangel I definitely remember there being a different, longer post but this is what I found after an hour of searching because apparently I forgot to reblog it?? 💔😔

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Well since Tim is being cagey, does ANYONE ELSE want to say wtf happened between the Shepard siblings (and is it Tim’s fault (I bet it’s his fault))
I'd say that was a pretty successful interview
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Amazing
Mr. Tim Shephard are you a bug
Idk guys that's a pretty convincing answer