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Then maybe don’t add this to the post if you’re not talking about it 🤷🏻‍♀️

Nesta’s not just a really mean sister. She systematically abuses Feyre for nearly a decade, then is mad when Feyre tries to pull her out of a cycle of self destruction that is surely going to kill her.

Yes Rhys does bad things. But that’s what morally gray characters do. At the end of the day he doesn’t do it to be cruel. He does it because he has an end goal and people he’s trying to protect. Does it justify it? No. But I’m more willing to forgive bad actions made with good intentions than bad actions made out of selfishness and immaturity.

And the difference between him and Nesta is that he changes. I’m ignoring the medical abuse because it came from SJM’s inability to understand the word medical emergency (there’s a reason Nesta is her self insert) and also becuse it’s really Madja’s fault (I’m in medicine. I could go on and on about how the entire thing is BS, SJM is a terrible writer and an adult child, and how Madja should be fired and have all credentials stripped).

Here you are bending over backwards to defend what rhysand did to feyre to nesta to the courts, a victim don't care the guy dropping magical bombs over their heads had good intentions all the people he killed don't care he had good intentions feyra if she realized he was abusing her what he did won't care he had a good heart it was still abuse

An yeah nesta was mean abusive and cruel for decades and she didn't do a thing to be better but again this post is not about acotar specially it's about fandom so how many male characters start evil stay evil and end evil and the fandom still treats them like little uwu angels ?

Why male characters are allowed headcanons to justify their abuse and their cruelty? Why people can headcanon ad fanfic male characters away from their canon awfulness but once I do it for a female character is *being a apologist* and *not understanding canon* and *forgiving abusers?*

Rhys did bad things because he saw no other way and because he was trying to protect others. It doesn't justify it but it does put it into perspective and make it more sympathetic.

Netsa did bad things because she was an immature child who was mad daddy couldn't beat the laws of nature with his money. Which makes sense given the author is a spoiled rich girl.

And I do mean Nesta is immature. She was 12 when her mother died after a prolonged illness. I was younger than that when I lost three immediate family members, two after long illness and one unexpectedly. And not once did I blame the doctors or other family members for not seeing out other help. Because that's just what happens sometimes.

Not only does Nesta have misplaced anger, she misplaces that misplaced anger on her innocent sister. Something that eventually grew into being cruel just for cruelty's sake. To the point that Nesta is an abuse apologist herself. This isn't just her being immature and lashing out. This is a prolonged pattern of behavior that the author retcons into being acceptable by making their mother neglectful. So instead of being just an abuser Nesta now became a generational abuser. Not much of a difference in my opinion, especially since Feyre herself breaks the cycle. An explanation, not the excuse like many fans treat it as.

In contrast, you have characters like Clarisse la Rue. For the first book she's seen as nothing more than a bully. But over time you learn that she's just trying to be seen as tough to be accepted by her father. And in the end she and Percy will never be best friends, but they definitely have an understanding between them. Especially after the chariot incident where Percy basically tells her she doesn't have to act tough to be accepted by the others at camp.

And Clarisee isn't perfect. Her stubbornness in The Last Olympian is indirectly responsible for Selina's death. She's still abrasive and argumentative. But she's not cruel. And at the end of the day she's loyal to camp.

There's also characters like Zoe and the Hunters. They have good reason to be weary of men. And Zoe at first has misguided preconceptions of Percy due to the fact he uses Riptide. But Zoe eventually sees that Percy is nothing like Heracles, and in the end she is happy to have known him. And again, she makes mistakes. It was irresponsible for her to put Bianca on such an important mission, and that resulted in the girl's death. But once again, the intent was pure.

Even Luke. The entire point of Percy turning down immortality was that Luke wasn't entirely wrong. His methods were wrong and nearly destroyed everything, but that was more the result of him being twisted by Kronus than anything else. By the third book he's seen that he's made a mistake, but at that point he's in too deep to fix it.

I'm gonna explain you my line of thought and see if you can comprehend alright

I made this post after I saw some people were canceling Anabeth chase for judo flipping Percy in Marc of Athena, a scene where canonically Percy was happy about her doing that and also it makes sense sparring and fighting is part of their relationship as both are soldiers

Still people online were being absolutely awful about her, calling her violent and this pissed me off because we have someone like rhysand

Rhysand is a horrible guy that's a simple point he is violent he is abusive he groped feyre he broke her arm he held away information about her reproduction health from her and still still people consider him peak male behavior peak romanticism

You said you don't care about gender but my post is all about gender it used Anabeth and Rhys but it could be Captain marvel and Tony stark it could be Ray Skywalker and Kylo Ren you can't ignore the raging misogyny in fandom spaces specially In a post about misogyny in fandom spaces

Still you saw "anti Rhys" and assumed I was pro Nesta which I'm not

Nesta is a bad, however nesta awfulness is more about how that Zionist Jane Austen sees women than about canon

And still I don't know where you got the post was pro nesta it was anti rhysand now go back and tell me exactly where I forgiven abuse in the first post

Then maybe don’t add this to the post if you’re not talking about it 🤷🏻‍♀️

Nesta’s not just a really mean sister. She systematically abuses Feyre for nearly a decade, then is mad when Feyre tries to pull her out of a cycle of self destruction that is surely going to kill her.

Yes Rhys does bad things. But that’s what morally gray characters do. At the end of the day he doesn’t do it to be cruel. He does it because he has an end goal and people he’s trying to protect. Does it justify it? No. But I’m more willing to forgive bad actions made with good intentions than bad actions made out of selfishness and immaturity.

And the difference between him and Nesta is that he changes. I’m ignoring the medical abuse because it came from SJM’s inability to understand the word medical emergency (there’s a reason Nesta is her self insert) and also becuse it’s really Madja’s fault (I’m in medicine. I could go on and on about how the entire thing is BS, SJM is a terrible writer and an adult child, and how Madja should be fired and have all credentials stripped).

Then maybe don’t add this to the post if you’re not talking about it 🤷🏻‍♀️

Nesta’s not just a really mean sister. She systematically abuses Feyre for nearly a decade, then is mad when Feyre tries to pull her out of a cycle of self destruction that is surely going to kill her.

Yes Rhys does bad things. But that’s what morally gray characters do. At the end of the day he doesn’t do it to be cruel. He does it because he has an end goal and people he’s trying to protect. Does it justify it? No. But I’m more willing to forgive bad actions made with good intentions than bad actions made out of selfishness and immaturity.

And the difference between him and Nesta is that he changes. I’m ignoring the medical abuse because it came from SJM’s inability to understand the word medical emergency (there’s a reason Nesta is her self insert) and also becuse it’s really Madja’s fault (I’m in medicine. I could go on and on about how the entire thing is BS, SJM is a terrible writer and an adult child, and how Madja should be fired and have all credentials stripped).

Here you are bending over backwards to defend what rhysand did to feyre to nesta to the courts, a victim don't care the guy dropping magical bombs over their heads had good intentions all the people he killed don't care he had good intentions feyra if she realized he was abusing her what he did won't care he had a good heart it was still abuse

An yeah nesta was mean abusive and cruel for decades and she didn't do a thing to be better but again this post is not about acotar specially it's about fandom so how many male characters start evil stay evil and end evil and the fandom still treats them like little uwu angels ?

Why male characters are allowed headcanons to justify their abuse and their cruelty? Why people can headcanon ad fanfic male characters away from their canon awfulness but once I do it for a female character is *being a apologist* and *not understanding canon* and *forgiving abusers?*

Then maybe don’t add this to the post if you’re not talking about it 🤷🏻‍♀️