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Fuck it Happy Pride to Star child and her adoptive gay dads I guess
Change the hair colors and they look like Kirk and Spock.
I think the reason why SNW gets a lot of hate (and why I don't personally like it) is because it doesn't really engage deeply enough with its ideas. The biggest strength of star trek imo has always been that you could dress up any ethical or philosophical question in a camp sci fi story and explore it to its fullest potential. The most memorable episodes to me were always the ones that took a fairly simple concept and pushed it as far as it could possibly go.
But I find that whilst SNW does have some interesting concepts, they are rarely explored to their fullest. The documentary episode is a great example of this: it's a very intriguing idea with lots of room for exploring new questions, but it doesn't really do any of that. It ends up being a pretty unoriginal story, and that's disappointing. Four and a Half Vulcans also had this issue, where I felt like we were being constantly switched between so many characters and plotlines that none of them really got to shine, and it ended up feeling shallow. I'd honestly prefer if they used more boring/clichƩ concepts but took the time to fully explore them, like in the latest episode with Ortegas and the gorn.
This is probably partly due to the fact that TV as a whole has changed and is less conceptual and more action now, as well as an over reliance on serialised storytelling and relationship drama. But I do just wish they would engage more with the philosophical parts of star trek rather than humour and relationships (which aren't bad, but need to be balanced).
Youāve hit the nail on the head.
TOS managed to build a franchise out of the dynamic between three characters. Kirk, Spock, and Bones. Yes it is annoying that, excluding Scotty, few other characters really get the chance to shine, the trade off is one of the best trios in well, anything.
Snw gets so preoccupied with its episodeās concepts that it doesnāt leave much room for characters to react or showcase their full personalities outside of what broadly makes sense for the plot. Itās not so much contrived as it is predictable. Itās not motivated it just makes sense in the broad strokes. Which is much less interesting.
The big picture ideas of fate, what it means to be human, environmentalism, racism, what if a planet based its whole society off of a history book about Chicago gangs? Etc. Theyāre all playgrounds in tos to see how the big 3 react, change, and grow.
Snw is so focused on showing off, āoh my god we did X!ā That it forgets that. Itās caught up in spectacle of what it can do. Itās lost in the sauce.
Imo, no amount of beautiful set pieces, expensive mando monitors for the backgrounds, or giant cgi space battles are ever gonna compete with the raw emotions of these three trying to sacrifice themselves for each other, while on a black sound stage with like 10 props.
hello jim x laāan nation is this anything
I like how this goes for both of them. š
Farragut Disaster flashback episode is freaking happening this season guys
I see you white smoke cloud of death
Based on the voiceover I wonder if Spock and Kirk really will be trading traumatic memories.
Would Kirk really willingly open up to him like that?
This early?
The hype is real
Hope Iām right
Traumatize the blond man!!
To me, SNW is not the same universe as TOS (idc what the showrunners say), and so I am unbothered by how wildly inaccurate Jim revealing this to Spock would be. I am excited!
Forgive the incoming tangent, but Rewatching the episode again, if they go the route of Jim revealing this to Spock/Spock finding out about it now, it would somewhat contradict tos. However, and is admittedly cope on my part, but I think thereās enough there in Obsession where you could assume Spock already knew about this.
In the episode, Jim tells McCoy to look over tapes about the Farragut to explain how this isnāt the first time something like this has happened. Meanwhile when going over it with Spock, theyāre talking around it until Jim basically says āDoctor McCoy is looking at certain tapes right now. You should check it out.ā Doesnāt even elaborate. This is likely because theyāre on the bridge in front of others but still.
Yet despite this lack of details, Spock is able to find the info about the Farragut, review it all, and hand over a summary to McCoy, who, because of all the dead and injured crew, hadnāt had time to look up the info yet.
Compare this to conscience of the king. Where you get a scene of Spock using the shipās computer to figure out the correlation between the karidian, Jim, and Riley.
Thereās also this little moment when Spock and McCoy confront Kirk.
Jim: Iām convinced this is the same creature that attacked the Farragut 11 years ago.
Spock: Creature, Captain?
Jim: My report is on the tapes.
I know Iām reaching here but it would be neat if Spock was aware of all this. Saw Kirkās memories of that time and came to a different conclusion about what attacked him.

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Farragut Disaster flashback episode is freaking happening this season guys
I see you white smoke cloud of death
Based on the voiceover I wonder if Spock and Kirk really will be trading traumatic memories.
Would Kirk really willingly open up to him like that?
This early?
The hype is real
Hope Iām right
I love Uhotty with all my heart but itās hilarious that even the actors were like, āwtf?ā When they read the final frontier script.
Also this. Would love something like this between them.
*Scotty gets shot
Uhura: Scotty! No! If you die Iāll you!
Scotty, chuckling: donāt make me laugh. It hurts right here.
This is my uhotty tos dynamic. Both being into each other but just missing each other.
Manifesting for s4
Apologies in advance to everyone because I will Not be normal when SNW drops the uhotty kiss
Uhotty shippers, come and get your food.
At first, I thought that was the new Vulcan character but looking at it slowly frame by frame, it is Uhura.
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What Disney song best fits Jim Kirk?
Imma semi cheat and use the deleted prince song from Cinderella. (Look just give it a listen and pretend the face he sees in the night is the enterprise)
Reblog with your pick.
A little something something from me and @anewstartrekfan ās Cinderella spirk au šš
You knocked it out of the park with this!
This is still amazing
I hope snw s4 isnāt just giving us crumbs for spirk. The hug was put in the trailer to get people talking but genuinely, plz, donāt let this be only bait.
The part of the trailer that has all my attention is this because if I am right and this is about the Farragut it could be some high quality angst. And if Spock is involved, spirk.
Iām talking the s3 finale mind meld accidentally gives Spock nightmares about Kirkās past. And when Spock tries to ask he gets a surprisingly cold shoulder. Cue digging into it on his own.
Oh it would be super fun if like at first Spock is experiencing it but he doesnāt realize itās Kirkās memories until he tries to figure out what he keeps dreaming about and why. Like he could assume itās some sort of premonition somehow based on the consistency. But the truth is the enterprise could just be traveling in the corner of the galaxy where the Farragut was attacked by the cloud, thus triggering the ptsd.
The dream would be Spock reaching out to Sam for answers, Sam initially brushing it off saying Jim never made a fuss. Spock, like visibly exhausted is like āare you sure about that?ā But maybe more subtly condescending. Cue mind meld where Sam gets a taste of what Jimās been keeping to himself.
Idk Sam Kirk deserves some development and not to be just a cameo.
Thereās a certain poetic irony to Jim Kirk being arguably the most interesting character in SNW and slowly gaining more and more screentime, while Spock over here is proving to everyone SNW stands for Spockās Numerous Women.
The Working Theory
I wanna give a shout out to Ethan Peck and Paul Wesley here for justifying my immediate reaction to seeing the white mist rushing towards Jim as the door closed, thinking it has something to do with the Farragut disaster.
Really there are three ways they could go about this. Either itās about the cloud monster from Obsession, itās somehow tarsus iv related, or SNW invents new trauma that Jimās buried. Or some combo of the three.
Any option is good in my eyes. My only requirement is Jim doesnāt monologue about it.
Bro needs to be just as defensive and cagey as OG Kirk.

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james t kirk and Tarsus IV is such an interesting bit of lore and fandom phenomenon. in the conscience of a king, his experience and survival of Tarsus is leveraged as an episodic plot device and gives depth to kirks character but remains just thatā episodic in its depth. the original series never touches it again, its not held as a core part of his background the way Spockās life on Vulcan or even Bonesā mostly-humorous Georgian sensibilities. and then in the kelvin timeline jim is given a wholly different yet equally decimating core backstory to shape him into the man he becomes. and still no one touches Tarsus with a ten foot pole.
except: everyone in the trek fandom. we love this shit. theres tags for Tarsus trauma up the wazoo. this little piece of grit that much of the actual body of work doesnāt interrogate has become a fandom pearl. its such a good example of fandom doing what fandom does best: picking at something interesting in the source that doesnāt need to be explored for the function of the larger plot, yet makes all the difference in a pure character or dynamic study.
its all very fascinating to me.
I think itās cuz Jim Kirk as a character isnt someone who monologues about his tragic backstory. In fact he takes active steps to avoid talking about it if it ever comes up.
Both Conscience of the King and Obsession have scenes between Kirk, Spock, and Bones, where the latter two have to recite Kirkās tragic backstory at him to get him to react/tell them whatās going on. Obsession is especially neat cuz heās constantly like āI explained this in the tapes.ā He does not want to reveal anything new or expose his feelings about this. Conscience of the king Spock simply has to go āI checked the computer like you did. I got the same info.ā For Jim to be like āokay they know some stuff,ā and begrudgingly start talking about it. (But not before trying one last time to get them to stop).
Meanwhile Spock has no problem talking about his past most of the time, and when there are issues, he pretty easily cracks under the pressure.
Jim Kirk however just doesnāt.
So realistically making a trauma arc out of stuff maybe paralleling his past is extremely difficult.
There was an episode in s2 where Kirk go possessed by a dude that survived a mass extinction event because he was deemed more valuable than the other people on his planet.
The tarsus iv parallels arenāt even hinted at.
Trouble with Tribbles is about Kirk being mad heās out on an escort mission for apparently very important grain.
Again, not even touched.
still not over this. good grief that man is traumatized
The fact Kirk says this but is not then immediately confronted with any bit of his traumatic past is one of the biggest missed opportunities of this franchise.
If pacing was the issue, then did we really need to see Spockās crap again? Weād done that song and dance.
And what kills me is SHATNER DIRECTED FINAL FRONTIER! HE COULDāVE GIVEN HIMSELF A JUICY DRAMATIC SCENE BUT NO WE HAVE JIM ONLY HINTING AT HIS BAGGAGE
And look, I know Jim isnāt the type to monologue about whatever he went through. But like, he didnāt have to. Have Sybok show everyone, then when he tries to make his elevator pitch, Jim could just be staring him in the eye, eyes filled with anger,
āAre you done?ā
I consider this so core to Jim's character. Of all the people who didn't go to therapy when they should have, Jim didn't go to therapy the most. Because he feels holding onto his pain is necessary, that it makes him who he is.
He's a little that way about Tarsus, and he's that way about Edith, and he's very much that way about the Tycho cloud monster. He's made his trauma part of his personality; he doesn't know who he'd be without it.
(And that's why Spock really shouldn't have erased his memory of Reyna. He wouldn't have wanted that.)
Exactly! Tos actually explores this too, albeit in one of the worst episodes unfortunately. But despite the paradise syndrome being terrible, it is when this is spelled out the most. Once the memory loss happens, heās got this nagging feeling about whateverās missing. I think he says something along the lines of āI donāt deserve this happiness.ā