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If you enter this world knowing you are loved and you leave this world knowing the same, then everything that happens in between can he dealt with. A professor may degrade you, but you will not feel degraded, a boss may crush you, but you will not be crushed, a corporate gladiator might vanquish you, but you will still triumph. How could any of them truly prevail in pulling you down? For you know that you are an object worthy of love. The rest is just packaging.
But if you donât have that memory of being loved, you are condemned to search the world for something to fill you up. But no matter how much money you make or how famous you become, you will still feel empty. What you are really searching for is unconditional love, unqualified acceptance. And that was the one thing that was denied to you at birth.
Michael Jackson
i hope all the hate doesnât discourage any writers
the straight side of the fandom boring as hell no wonder they keep stalking the tag
the secretly recorded phone calls btwn michael and glenda stein are so funny bc heâs like the only celebrity that could reveal that theyâre a 30+ year old virgin and have me be completely unsurprised.
Not him posing like he birthed Bubbles himself lmao

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âI do it for the girls and the gays and thatâs itâ - Michael Joseph Jackson, 1982
Angel face đ
I find it funny how people are focusing on Michael being a virgin until LMP, like wow a man who was a Jehovahâs Witness then converted to Christianity was a virgin until he got married WHAT A SHOCKER they want to use absolutely everything they find no matter the context to portray him like some type of freak
Itâs literally the dumbest thing ever. Yeah Mike was a Jehovahâs Witness until he left the church but he was also the most famous person on earth đ why are people freaking out and finding it so difficult to believe that the most famous human ever might find it hard to date people?? Lol
And idk why some fans are out here saying itâs a lie or that Michael only told her that to get in her pants or something. That would be weird on his part lol. Those type of fans have deluded themselves into thinking that Michael was fucking any woman he met like it was going out of style when that obviously just wasnât the type of person he was. He clearly valued intimacy and connection and Lisa wrote about him a very romantic sense, basically portraying him as a hopeless romantic type
It also doesnât shock me that a man who was raised how MJ was would be so shut in for so long. Ppl forget that Michael was performing in strip clubs as a very young child, that he was being shown porn on live tv in interviews as a young boy, that he was literally in the same room as his older brothers when theyâd be having sex with girls and that Michael was being sexualized as a child.
Ppl forget about that stuff. But that kind of thing has an impact on you. That isnât even getting into the way specific women took advantage of him too. And yes, I am speaking about madonnas weird ass but another one too lol
It isnât that Michael couldnât have slept around if he had wanted to. He just didnât want to and thatâs fine and thereâs nothing wrong with that at all?? Mike was way too invested in his artistry anyway to be hooking up w random women. Just another reason all the âI was MJâs secret girlfriendâ rumors are dumb af
Madonna is a rapist???????
Girl do I have news for you LMFAO
She wrote this in a book she published in 1991⌠she also admitted to trying to coerce Michael Jackson into drinking alcohol and then trying to force herself on him and that was in like 2013. LMP confirmed the story in her book but Michael himself talked about it and how she would sexually harass him before he died soooo
She is going to hell for this LMFAO
HELL
Whatâs the tea on Michael and Madonna? I know they had a fallout in 1991 when they were working together for the âIn the closetâ track, and it went off rails supposedly because of creative differences but think thereâs more to it because Michael clearly had some grudge against her. Even a decade later, he was venting about her, which is very unlike him. I donât recall he ever talking about someone the way he talked about Madonna. Also; has anyone speculated those bdsm books the police found might have been gifts from Madonna? She was going through that era when she was working with Michael, and didnât she said he needed to be âexposedâ to different things?
Well she was constantly sexually harassing him, so I would start by saying that⌠sheâs a sex addict freak, she published a book filled with disgusting fantasies including a fantasy of âturningâ gay men straight, and she wrote about sick sexual things she did as a child, and she detailed how she groomed and raped a teenage boy who she said was barely pubescent. She said in I believe 2016 that she talked Michael into drinking with her and that then he was supposedly âwillingâ enough to French kiss her. Sounds more like assault to me but hey, what do I know?

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Didnât Karen Faye also act real weird because of Naomi Campbell? She spread rumours about Michael being uncomfortable around Naomi during ITC shooting, supposedly because she kept âtalking dirtyâ and he wanted her to stop, and GTFO? Meanwhile, Michael and Naomi were super friendly behind the scenes and just having fun? They also they remained friends until his death. Like??
Karen Faye did and still does talk bad about every single woman that was in Michaelâs life, no matter how short lived and no matter their relationship. Itâs very clear that Karen Faye viewed Michael as a sort of property she owned, and felt threatened whenever someone else was simply around that she viewed as better than her. She has openly admitted to having inappropriate thoughts and feelings about him, and she was even caught on video flirting with him in a way he was clearly uncomfortable with. And while this kind of thing might make for an entertaining Wattpad fanfic, this is reality: Michael Jackson was her employer, her boss, and her behavior is incredibly inappropriate and disturbing, and it would have gotten her fired much faster in any other position. I mean, she deadass stole a pair of his underwear. This is weird and stalkerish. And she also stole a ton of money from Michaelâs fans while he was on trial. She was fired by him twice.
If Karen was fired by Michael twice how did she keep making her way back onto his team?
Karen Faye was fired during the HIStory tour, though youâll see her claim she was just âreleasedâ from assignment. During the early 2000âs, she managed to weasel her way back in, and amidst the second round of allegations, Karen Faye and Michaelâs brother Randy Jackson exploited Michael while he was preparing for the criminal trial and during it. They created a website claiming it was at the time an official website run by Michael Jackson, that website being MJJ Source, promising fans and supporters exclusive content like photos etc of Michael by charging them subscription fees that ranged anywhere from $20 to $50 a month. Once fans did not receive the content they were promised, they became outraged and once Michael learned of this, he created distance between himself and Randy, and Karen Faye once again.
Karen Faye was then brought back a 3rd time through AEG, who also hired Conrad Murray, the man who murdered Michael Jackson.
It was Karen Fayeâs testimony that in part caused the Jackson family to lose their wrongful death lawsuit against AEG, which they shouldnât have lost, as they were completely liable for what happened to Michael. Days before Michaelâs death, Karen Faye was emailing Frank Dileo wherein she victim blamed Michael despite witnessing and knowing full well he was being drugged, or in other words poisoned. Karen Faye did nothing to help him. She claimed Michael was mentally ill and a drug addict in her testimony. In reality, he was literally being used by everyone around him and actively poisoned, and he held on as long as he could.
She is a snake just like the rest of the people surrounding Michael. She used him, she watched him be poisoned and deteriorate before her eyes, she lied and said she was feeding him and taking care of him when in reality it was Kenny Ortega that was tending to Michael. But then after Michael died, she wanted to act like she was some savior đđ
Whatâs your opinion on this Michael was a secret player/womanizer thing?
It sounds like mostly bullshit to me. Lisa Marie said he hadnât really had an opportunity to have a serious relationship until he and her got together, and I believe her, because Michael himself stated this on the Glenda Tapes. The tapes match up with the timeline of Michael and Lisa connecting in adulthood. Whether Michael had any girlfriend later in life from the 2000âs onward is alleged and never has been proven. Many women have lied and claimed they were his secret girlfriend, like Shana lol. I know Frank Cascio created this whole playboy persona for MJ in his book, but Frank isnât a credible source obviously. A couple of Michaelâs bodyguards tried to play into that playboy thing themselves in their books, yet other bodyguards originally worked on these books with them and then left the project because they claimed the others were alright with embellishing stories about Michael. Even in tape recordings, Michael talks about how he is not good at romantic relationships because he is too focused on his work, and this was recorded post LMP final breakup in 2001 or so.
ok Iâm getting sick of seeing this rumor being perpetuated by people claiming to be fans of Michael Jackson, because there is literally zero evidence to suggest that
1) Michael Jackson ever had a relationship with Shana Mangatal!
2) there is no fucking evidence or truth to the rumor that Michael Jackson was unfaithful to Lisa Marie Presley or that he would have cheated on ANY woman he was romantically involved with!
Shana Mangatal met Michael Jackson in 1993 when she was cast as an extra to play a townsperson in his video Is It Scary (later renamed Ghosts). She was hired by one of Michaelâs managers. Filming for this ended when the Jordan Chandler allegations began, and then she was rehired by the same manager to refilm in 1995. Before this, she met Michael backstage at a fan meet and greet on the Dangerous Tour.
She first started to attempt to gain fame in 2003 when giving media rounds claiming she was his âsecret loverâ. She has also tried to claim she is Bigiâs mother (Michaelâs 4th child). There is absolutely ZERO evidence that any of this is true. She literally has ONE picture with Michael, which is this back stage photo above. She was just hired as an extra for a video, not even by Michael himself. She claims they had a love affair for 2 decades yet she didnât have a camera? Yeah, I call bullshit. She wrote a book trying to get money from her alleged relationship with Michael, which is full of lies and inconsistencies, and contradictions. Only delusional fangirls read this book let alone believe in it. Stop spreading this stupid shit. Shana Mangatal is a fucking liar, period! Her stories in her book straight up read like a Wattpad fanfiction.
If Shana were really Michael Jacksonâs lover, she wouldnât have been fishing out fucking yogurt cups out of the damn trash that Michael had eaten from, and stealing fax documents Michael sent his managers that she worked for that were NOT meant for her. She also wouldnât have been able to be in contact with Michael without signing a nondisclosure agreement. Michael made everyone sign one; he was very distrusting of people, and for good reason. The story she spins of not being made to sign one because âhe thought I was differentâ is delusional as fuck.
Sheâs literally a delusional fangirl to the highest degree imaginable. She met Michael a couple of times and was lucky enough to work for him very briefly, and has since deluded herself into believing they were âmeant for each otherâ which is honestly insane, and extremely creepy and stalkerish. She is quite literally the exact same as Tatiana, who also tried to claim she was Michaelâs âloverâ or that he was in love with her when in reality, Jackson fired her and then she too made media rounds and then wrote a book full of lies to cash in on her brief interactions with MJ.
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Iâm exposing Shanaâs bitch ass even more LOL
She quite literally has an entire private âbook clubâ group on Facebook where she and other so called âfansâ literally do nothing but make fun of Michael and his appearance. These are not the only comments from her; there are dozens and dozens of them.
First of all, one fans comment stating Michaelâs appearance changes due to lupus flares is actually true; she denies this, though. She claims Michael had tons of plastic surgeries and shit which is absolutely not true. She takes pictures from the worst period of Michaelâs life when he stood trial and degrades him and treats and speaks of him as if he is subhuman.
But on her public page, you wonât catch her talking about him in this way. But in her private fangirl group where everyone in it sucks her ass and helps pay her bills by buying her bullshit? Well that is all she does is degrade and dehumanize a man she claims she was romantically involved with for 20 years and that she claims she had a CHILD with. Very odd; Iâve never seen Lisa Marie Presley speak about Michael Jacksonâs appearance like this. In fact, Iâve only ever heard LMP state that she thinks Michael was attractive, period. Iâve also never heard Debbie Rowe say shit like this about Michael. Thatâs weird, considering these two white women were married to Michael, and yet this loser Shana claims she was involved with him for TWO DECADES and speaks like this about him?
She has also privately in this group stated that he deliberately changed his skin, fed into the idea that he was ashamed to be black, made fun of him for being a burn victim, made fun of him for being disabled, flat out DENIED that he was disabled, made fun of him for being gender nonconforming, quite literally said he âwanted to be a womanâ. NEED I GO ON?
She also tried to imply in her book that Michael was supposedly more âinterested in boysâ than he was in her. Oh, she has also been chummy with Wade and company. Itâs clear Shana wants to play both sides of the field. Those of us seasoned fans know the facts, so for those of you who are new here or who donât know, maybe you should consider listening to those of us who have been here a long time.
I donât know why some of yâall so called MJ fans support or believe this woman. Sheâs a LIAR! She uses MJs name for clout and money, she has no proof they ever dated, she body shames and dehumanizes him for being disabled, she flat out LIES on him to continue to degrade him. Who the fuck would ever speak about someone they claim to love like this?! There is no proof she is Bigis mother, by the way. Anyway, after she got exposed like this with her private posts being screenshotted and passed around MJ fan groups, she tried to delete all of it. But we have the screenshots đ so keep it cute Shana Whateverthefuck
bringing this back AGAIN because I am STILL seeing yâall wack ass âfansâ uplifting this vile bitch! listen to those of us MJ fans who have been here for years! LISTEN TO US! WE ARE NOT LYING TO YOU! WE KNOW MORE THAN YOU AND I DONT MEAN THAT IN A MALICIOUS WAY! WE ARE TRYING TO EDUCATE YALL đŠđ
do u know if lisa marie really was a bad person to michael? i keep hearing mixed stories that she was rude to michael and spoke about his sex life after their divorce, or they were both messy when it came to their relationship, or that it was actually michael who was never there.
Lisa Marie and Michael were both messy as fuck. He was pursuing her while she was still married and she was cheating on her husband with Michael. And then after her and Michael divorced, they continued to mess around for years after the fact, both while Michael was with Debbie Rowe and after that, too. Lisa Marie basically destroyed every relationship she had for Michael, she was literally engaged to some guy and ended the engagement to go screw Michael, and then she went and married Nic Cage as a rebound which ended in mere months bc she wasnât over Michael lol
Also, Lisa Marie never divulged details of her sex life with Michael. That shit is not true, itâs tabloid lies and an unauthorized and unreleased book titled Dark Lady, which had alleged details and âquotesâ from LMP. Again, she never authorized that book and it was never published probably because she would have sued the author Anthony Gregoreli into oblivion
LMP always did defend that she and Michael had a real romantic relationship and that she never saw anything strange regarding those allegations. She was sued by the Chandler family and fought them legally because she said their allegations werenât fucking true and told them to prove it
Lisa Marieâs biggest âsinâ here is 1) being severely abused by her mother and 2) acting like a bitter ex once her and Michaelâs relationship ended for good. But she always defended him against the allegations, and she never tried to take anything from him either. Her racist abuser of a mom got in her head and convinced her not to have kids with Michael, which she ended up regretting. Hell it was probably her racist bitch of a mother that told her he was plotting to divorce her, too. Lisa just never was able to completely break away from her motherâs control, which MJ seems to have accused her of in a redacted love letter he allegedly wrote
Debbie Rowe literally said while sobbing that she hoped Lisa and Michael were reunited in heaven because they were âmeant to beâ, so. Itâs obvious they loved each other. They didnât work out because they were influenced by everyone around them, both Michael AND Lisa, and Iâm a bit tired of this slandering of Lisa Marie only as if it doesnât take 2 to tango. None of us were involved in their relationship and at the end of the day, outside influence and third parties butting into a marriage they werenât a part of was a huge reason their marriage failed

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Since this is a safe space Iâll say I get real mad when I see fellow moonwalkers saying Lisa didnât love Michael and it was only PR. This woman not only had a mental breakdown after she divorced Michael - or better yet, when she was tricked into divorcing Michael by someone on his side - but was actually suicidal after the news dropped Michael was having a baby. The âNational Enquiryâ called it âLisa Marie Suicide Dramaâ and report on it in June 17th 1997 (Lisa was hospitalized on May 30th, but the situation had been going on since last year). Later, Lisa tried to sue for defamation but had to drop it because she couldnât prove it was a false report. It was around this time, she and Michael reconnected, and were seen holding hands while arriving at London's Carlton Towers hotel, in July.
I donât think Lisa was tricked by someone on Michaelâs side. I think it was Priscilla, and thatâs what Riley implied too. Priscilla even implies it herself. She had such a psychological grip on Lisa Marie her whole life. Lisa was reportedly estranged from her from 2013 onward, but that estrangement came decades too late.
She was in Lisaâs ear convincing her that Michael didnât love her, that he was using her, that he was going to leave her if she got pregnant, that he was plotting against her behind her back, that if she had kids with him it would result in a horrible custody battle etc.
And then who did that end up happening with? Lockwood. The man Priscilla publicly backed, the man Lisa Marie publicly called a pedophile and said he had child porn on his laptop that she personally witnessed, and the man she fought tooth and nail to keep from getting custodyâwho had it once she died. The man who financially bled her dry along with her mother and her motherâs drug addict son.
She used every insecurity Lisa had against her, and who better to do so? She knew all of her insecurities because she created them.
Lisa didnât find out it was all a lie until after the fact. And Michael never really trusted her the same way again, even though he acknowledged she was trying to fix it in the tape recordings. Itâs all really fucking sad to me. Sometimes loving someone just isnât enough to fix whatever damage is there. I wish theyâd cut any and all contact with Priscilla right after they got married. Things probably would have been much different had that happened.
Priscilla praised and loved all the men that used Lisa and treated her like trash, especially Lockwood, who ruined her life and who she was having panic attacks about marrying the day of the wedding. But the one man that didnât use her, she hated. The one man Lisa said she loved more than the others and the one she claimed she was never happier in her whole life with, Priscilla made out to be the bad guy.
What mother takes joy in it? She claimed she was so happy when Lisa filed. That says more than anything else could, in my opinion.
i try to stay up to date with the âargumentsâ people who think mj is guilty like to make so i know exactly how to refute it. there is one thing though that i really donât have an explanation for.
iâm not sure if youâve ever talked about this but when the police searched his room and photographed it (after he died), there is a picture of a dresser with a bunch of baby pictures framed (i donât believe theyâre of his kids) and a target poster with a baby on it. it is odd to say the least. (iâm sure you can see how people might use that to justify their claims that heâs guilty).
i couldnât find much on it but was wondering if youâve seen anything about it/if thereâs more to it, and what your take on it is.
How is it odd? Some of those photos are of his children, btw. The framed photos are of Paris. And a couple of the photos are Bigi and Prince. Some of them do appear to be advertisement photographs, but who cares? We know he was planning to build a hospital; for all we know, these could have been for that. What is this supposed to prove? Theyâre pictures of babies smiling. He obviously had them placed there with photos of his own kids because they made him happy. Whether he obtained them himself or someone gifted them to him, it doesnât really matter. Theyâre innocent pictures of smiling babies. He had stuff like this all around Neverland Ranch in the mansion, too. Along with tons of other things he loved that brought him joy.
If someone is trying to turn a picture of a smiling baby into a perverted pedophilic fantasy, Iâd say that they are the one that sounds like a child molester⌠maybe the photos inspired Michael, maybe they simply brought him a sense of peace while he was actively being poisoned and brought closer to death, maybe they reminded him of his goal to build the worldâs largest childrenâs hospital with the money he would have made from This Is It? Who knows, and who cares? Itâs not incriminating at all.
On the far right you can clearly see multiple photographs of Paris Jackson. Bigi Jackson appears to be on a center disc, though I canât quite tell for certain. And Prince Jackson being held is in a small photograph next to the Charlie Chaplin picture. Oh the humanity! And would you look at that, a photograph of a pair of SHOES! Augh! And thereâs even a cd of Michaelâs music sitting there! Heâs clearly self obsessed and vain! Call the cops!
Do you see how ridiculous this all sounds? Should we arrest every human being that browses social media and likes photos and videos of babies they have no relation to? Should we put all of those people on trial or say theyâre perverts? Of course not. It isnât weird to think pictures of babies are cute. Michael loved babies, and was often gifted pictures by fans and had stuff like this in his homes. Itâs not out of the ordinary. And it certainly isnât criminal.
âRhjsjfjtjjf BUT THEYRE NOT HIS KIDSâ the guilters will say, despite some of the pictures being his children. Well shit, to all this Iâll say we should lock my mammaw up next, cuz she keeps pictures like this around too and especially did when I was a child. Because they made her happy. She loved and still loves children. Michael loved children. Itâs not weird, what is weird is thinking an adult cannot harbor genuine and pure love for children without them being a sexual predator. And as I said, that speaks more to yâallâs own perverted minds than Michaelâs, as none of these photos are pornographic or erotic. Only a sick fuck looks at pictures of smiling babies and thinks about sexual abuse.
Thank you for pointing out some of those pictures are his own kids. These people are sick the head. As if baby videos don't get MILLIONS of likes in social media.
If everyone on earth, men included, who have liked or saved innocent photos or videos of babies on social media were imprisoned simultaneously, I suspect most streets would be empty.
It isnât perverted or weird to think babies are cute. Thatâs a normal fucking human thing. But suddenly it is perverted only when Michael Jackson also thinks babies are cute?
As I said, finding something perverted or sexual when nothing of the sort is actually going on says more about these people than it will EVER say about MJ. Who the hell looks at pictures of Gerber babies smiling and thinks about CSA? What the actual fuck. Perhaps YALL are the pedophiles idk. Seek help!