Bloody Tears and Black Waves

(This post is hyperbolic for the point of satire, but this is still based in real experiences I have had, and numerous things said here are things that HAVE been said to me.)

Pro-Endo: You can be plural without trauma!

(Traumagenic) System: Cool! I'm plural.

Pro-Endo: Welcome to the plural community!!!! Omg we love you what kind of system are you?

System: Oh. Um. I'm not sure yet?

Pro-Endo: Omg here's a link to pluralpedia do you have autism maybe you're autigenic

System: Oh, well, I have autism, but I'm pretty sure that didn't- Pro-Endo: No it totally did if you have autism then you almost definitely are autigenic because your autism affects your brain people!! Good luck with your introjects you'll have like 5 million of them because of hyperfixations!!! System: I... don't... think I have any? But. Okay, I guess? I, uh, actually don't really like people based language? Can you call them my alters or parts? Pro-Endo: ^^;;; Um haha actually that's really pretty ableist!!! Calling them YOUR alters is like saying you're more important than them and using parts language means you're taking away their individuality! But headmates are absolutely amazing right??? System: I... guess. I don't want to be ableist. Pro-Endo: Then just avoid that filthy dirty fucking ableist bigoted hate group language that those traumatized people over there use /gen /info /nbh

System: I guess I can call them my- wait, our headmates? Right? Pro-Endo: Yeah!!! Here's a link to our favorite picrews, oh and a link for Akinator lmao! System: I guess that's normal? Um. I'd really like to discuss some of the problems I'm facing? Pro-Endo: Oh just use our venting channels! Just make sure you censor any mentions of trauma, trauma responses, arguments, dormancy, fusion, integration, dogs, cats, the :) emoji- System: Oh, but. I. I need a place to process those things. I think I experienced- Pro-Endo: But you have to understand, that could be TRIGGERING, and if anyone ever gets triggered, you're clearly an asshole for triggering them, and we don't want to be assholes!! System: I mean. I guess. Pro-Endo: Besides, you don't have trauma. System: I don't know if I do - I don't remember any. But I've researched DID- Pro-Endo: You probably got fed a lot of anti-endo propaganda. You can be a system without trauma! If you feel plural you are!!! System: But what if I do have trauma? Pro-Endo: Well, you've said you're rich, so you don't. You said you didn't remember any, so you probably don't have any to remember! You said you're functional right now, so you definitely don't have DID! You like your system, so you're just an endogenic plural!!! System: Okay. That's a relief I guess! I guess I'm an endo system. So what about my trauma responses? Pro-Endo: Sounds like you're just having some in-system drama! Have you tried killing your persecutor about it?

"Look, it's definitely true that all plurality is valid and that Endogenic systems exist. These aren't bad points.

But it's also true that every single pro-endo who spreads the lie that everything anti-endos say is propaganda or lying has the potential to gaslight traumagenic systems to believe they're endogenic."

See how fucked up it is to say that?

@paxislandsystem

Damn, ain’t it crazy that it’s literally exactly what you’re saying?

Taken directly from the endo wiki thing:

“Specific types of systems that may refer to themselves as endogenic include, but are not limited to, Natural Systems, Tulpa Systems, Soulbond Systems and Gateway Systems. Other types of systems that fall under the endogenic umbrella can be found…”

Reread those bolder words. What does that wording sound like 🤔🤔🤔

Let me help jog your memory with an explanation of being transgender and identities that fall under it:

“Transgender or Transexuality is an umbrella term for anyone whose internal experience of gender does not match the sex they were assigned at birth (normally based on first and secondary sex charateristics).”

Things were so much better back then

They proudly say "I have tourettes" but only tic on command to prove a point, and still act like its the same

They never tic any other time, only on command or to feel "quirky"

Seriously, pro/endos, you would have a lot more DID systems on your side if you stopped calling it a "subset" of plurality that you can "identify" as

I'm going to start using, "you must immediately commit to ending this bigoted behaviour" non-stop

hi!! traumagenic system here ^^

endos can be very harmful to plural communities for a lot of reasons! A few of these include:

- they perpetuate harmful misinformation surrounding systems (such as: the idea that systems can form without trauma [they can't! scientifically proven! ^^], commonly demonizing alter roles like persecutors, claiming system-related beliefs that are impossible [system hopping, alter death, etc.]

- endos (who don't have the childhood trauma required for systemhood) claim to have or experience something similar to a trauma-induced disorder, which can be very damaging and invalidating to those of us who actually went through trauma as children!! We are also incredibly demonized and misrepresented in the media, so endos claiming a similar experience is just insensitive and doesn't help :(

- some (not all) endos claim that they have systems for fun, which is incredibly invalidating and insensitive to traumagenic systems. Having DID or OSDD is not fun, it is disabling and can be incredibly scary. This is a serious disorder and it's very much insensitive for someone to take it so lightly. Trust us, if we could get the chance to not have this debilitating disorder, we would take it in a heartbeat.

I hope you all understand that none of this is targeted or meant in a passive aggressive way, it is simply informational! Feel free to ask us more questions if you have them, as this post is only a brief summary of the main points.

All in all, endos, tulpas, demos, and their supporters are not allowed on this blog. If this post offends you for whatever reason, you probably shouldn't be here in the first place ❤️

Thank you for reading!!

First off, I wouldn't call endos healthy, not at all. The vast majority are young teens dealing with a wide array of different problems, issues, and illnesses that are stuck in really bad situations. Granted, so are the majority of young DID systems that are on tumblr. I can't say many of the adults in the endo community are much better off.

And this isn't just about being a system, either. I don't care if you're happy as a system, or see it as beneficial. I'm talking about overall, general mental health.

Most are utilizing questionable, unhealthy coping mechanisms and techniques to help them handle their problems, and not seeking any kind of therapy or treatment for any of their issues.

There are role models in the DID community-- a large number, actually, that are older, have gone through multiple years of therapy learning healthy habits, not just in regards to their system, but for other common problems and illnesses. They have jobs, families, mortgages, educations, all while having lived with a highly stigmatized disorder. They pulled off what many people said was impossible.

They didn't just overcome, they thrived.

People--even within our own community, think we can't do any of those things, but here we are, and you want endos to be the role models?

We're right here.

We are role models.

We are proof that people with DID can do anything.

We have four degrees. We're married. We have a full time career that we love and a blog where I try to help people. I'm actively working on myself, continuously, always knowing that I can improve and be better. We no longer have amnesia, we communicate so clearly. I love my system. I wouldn't give it up for anything.

We have DID and are healthy, functional multiples.

Systems who thought they were endo at first

Systems who thought they were mixed origin at first

Systems who believed they weren't traumagenic because they didn't remember their trauma

Systems held back in recovery by the endogenic community

Systems who just uncovered their trauma

Systems who are in denial about their trauma

Systems who are still learning about dissociative disorders

Systems who are syscourse neutral due to recently figuring out they are traumagenic

Systems who used to be pro-endo and are now anti-endo

And any other system with a complicated relationship to their trauma and the endo community! It's a rough road, and trauma's a bitch, but we can get through this.