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Pls read this yall I think I really did something here.

Before you read my theory keep in mind the “eternal sunshine of a spotless mind” is one of the movies the Duffer brothers told us to watch before season 5 AND Noah and Finn started crying 20 minutes into reading the final script, just them first. Which ties into my theory of them seeing the past memories of Mike and Will.

X marks the spot.

We’ve seen this with Bob&Mike in season2, Max with Holly & The Map, finding the X AWAY FROM VENCA mind you. Will is ditching Mike like Max ditched Kate bush, expect Venca is making Will ditch him bc Venca knows Mike is Will’s music per say. Also goes into what Max was telling Holly and Lucas himself that she didn’t actually need music she needed Lucas, also the thing with touching her hand and why Mike can touch Will’s hand in many parts of the sho.

Mike is the heart for Will, (again bringing up the X over Will’s heart showing the wormhole) In order to save Will he has to get to Will’s heart. They are both their each others everything’s, the whole show revolves around them idc argue with the wall.

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This is the plot of the movie if you’re unfamiliar.

So,

Either Mike is going to go through the labyrinth of memories in order to save Will Like how in the movie “eternal sunshine of the spotless mind” The main character Joel has to go through with losing memories with his gf and seeing all their past, seeing when they were most happy and when they were most sad all the ups and downs. And since we haven’t got Mike’s pov yet I think that’s when we’re going to see it. Is Mike walking through each of his memories seeing himself with Will and that also ties into to how they will show the GA that Mike has always has feelings for Will. Bc instead of a flashback I think it will be this. Mike has to go through the memories like Max went through her own and Henry’s to find herself a way out, MIKE WILL HAVE TO DO THE SAME TO SAVE WILL AND HIMSELF.

Also the duffer brothers orginal wanted to call stranger things “MONTAUK” which is literally from the “ESOTSM” The duffers pulled so much from this movie it’s insane. Also celmentine tells Joel to meet him in Montauk. Also in the movie so they don’t forget they make a tape of their lives BEFORE THEY ERASED THIER MEMORIES so they can possibly remember what thier life was before. This also makes sense with Will’s tape that has a X over it and so does the broadcast the stranger writes posted (I CANT FIND THE PIC WITH X ON THE TAPE BUT I KNOW WE HAVE SEE IT BEFORE)

Also another theory is in the end Venca does erases wills mind completely Of Mike and that’s what the tape is for to try to make him remember. Callback to the movie again. Also in the promo pic is with the word “bar” over it and we know we have seen leaks of them filming at a bar soooo take that with what you will.

ITS ALL COMING TOGETHER I DEADASS THINK Will won’t remember Mike in the epilogue scene and they’re gonna met at a bar and that’s what the tape is for will from Mike 😭😭😭😭

Also, remember how Shawn posted that Castle Byers pics before vol. 2 aired? Pretty telling.

But uh, the labyrinth of memories thing and Mike and Will meeting in the memory they feel most safe and happy at with each other to finally escape intact WOULD BE SO FREAKING AMAZING TO SEE, A LITERAL MASTERPIECE!!!

I think the labyrinth is very likely, it's the easiest way to reframe Byler for the GA with a lot of flashbacks as they travel through either one's or perhaps (is this better?) each other's memories.

If the Duffers do indeed do this then I suppose they'll fulfill the promise to themselves of them leaving with a banger that'd be historic?

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First off, I’ll start with a controversial opinion: Michael’s character in the movie wasn’t that bad. The movie universe is a separate continuity so Scott can write whatever he wants. Think of it as the “What If” comics from Marvel. Scott wrote the Fazbear Frights and Tales books as a way to expand his writing because he could. The movie universe is another way that Scott wanted to tell a story that isn’t just the mainline games. With this logic, Michael being the villain makes a lot of sense. If you look beneath the surface level, Michael being a villain matches up to what we know from the games. It’s told to us in sister location that he followed his father’s orders to go down to the bunker and put Elizabeth back together. He did what he asked but then realized the truth because of it. It’s not far-fetched to believe Michael will have a redemption in the FNAF 3 movie similarly to SL. Hell, we got a look at Circus Baby in Vanessa’s nightmare, which is a hint to the Elizabeth possessing Baby parallel from the games and Silver Eyes trilogy of novels.

Because of this, it makes sense for Michael to be evil and then have a redemption arc for the next movie. He can’t be redeemed if he didn’t do anything evil in the first place. It had to parallel the games somehow, so Scott writing him as the main villain made sense for the movie narrative. Just like the games, movie Michael was manipulated by William to do his dirty work and I predict that in FNAF 3, like Sister Location, he’ll learn the truth and side with Mike and Abby. Unfortunately, Vanessa is now evil because of Charlotte possessing her body, which would make the siblings switch roles. My boyfriend pointed out that Charlotte acts a lot like Ennard from sister location, going inside of bodies and possessing them to do her bidding. The way Abby got rid of the marionette was throwing her up, like how game Michael did with Ennard. Scott is clearly taking aspects from the games and books to make the movie narrative.

The classics fighting the toys was based on the twisted ones novel, where the classics fought the twisted animatronics to save Charlie and co. It’s a reference to the old videos of people making the classics fight the toys back when the fandom first began too. There’s a lot of thought put into the parallels and narrative. I get people have bias and I’m a huge Michael Afton fan myself, but you gotta realize that media takes inspiration from other forms of media. It’s not black and white. Just because a character is evil doesn’t mean it’s bad for the character or that the character got “butchered.” Michael being evil fits with the movie universe and if you know anything about the games, you’ll realize that Michael obeying his father is an established piece of canon.

He’s taking on the role of Elizabeth from the games in this way; on the other hand, he’s taking aspects of his original game canon by obeying his father and having implications that William abused him. If you know anything about abusive parents, what Michael does in the movies fits really well with a child wanting love and affection. If a child does something the parent wants and they gain affection, then of course they’ll continue the behavior. William tells Vanessa in her nightmare that “she’s his favorite” wouldn’t that imply William not giving a shit about Michael in the movies? We know he doesn’t in the games or with any of his kids to begin with, but people are forgetting that Michael siding with his father is a scenario that could have happened in the original game universe.

Environment plays a lot into how someone grows up. Michael in the games was similar to Vanessa in the movie, reluctantly following William until he learned the truth, grew a backbone and wanted him dead. Movie Michael wanted his father’s approval so bad because he most likely grew up neglected or as the punching bag when Vanessa got all the love and attention. Of course Michael would grow up thinking “I need to do what my father wants so he can love me.” It’s just game Elizabeth but with movie Michael. It showcases how environment made game and movie Michael different characters. Game Michael had his redemption earlier than movie Michael did; Michael in the games murdered his younger brother on accident, which made him realize the consequences of his actions; meanwhile movie Michael was most likely encouraged to do what his father wanted since what he did was never good enough. William knew Michael couldn’t be at the level he wanted him to be so he gave him false hope as Vanessa stated to Mike in the dinner scene. “You’ll give Abby false hope”, huh wonder how she knew that.

The same logic applies to Charlotte’s character. We know in the games she’s the protector of the ghost children, not being vengeful toward William in the slightest, since the vengeful spirit is the one pulling the strings; however, in the movie, she’s given the role of TOYSNHK along with her role as the marionette. Makes sense if you consider how she died in the games, neglected by her father to die by her uncle’s own hands. She had every right to be mad at the parents and adults who failed her, especially Henry. The movie took that idea and ran with it because again it’s a separate continuity. As I stated previously, the marionette also fills the role of Ennard, controlling bodies to mask itself as human to avoid suspicion and get what it wants. It’s obvious in the games that Charlotte was bullied and outcasted; the movie took that to make her death more impactful.

The main message of this thread is to remember that not everything is black and white; media literacy is important and you can choose not to like something, but be aware that the creator can do what they want with their franchise. Marvel, Star Wars, DC and so many other franchises have made separate continuities to make more stories. Why? Because continuing the same plot can get boring after a long time and writers want to expand their vision. Michael and Charlotte being evil makes sense in a big picture lens because in the games, that could have happened under different circumstances and it makes logical sense for their characters.

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