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1. The court holds Google responsible for statements made by its AI, considering them Google's statements (search engines have limited liability for results in their engine as they're the words of other sites/companies/people), meaning when their AI lies/hallucinates they're liable for the defamation/harm resulting from those statements.
2. Google's defense that customers are generally aware of the lack of reliability and are responsible for fact checking was dismissed. As the court pointed out, that would "significantly diminish" AI Search's stated purpose and it can't be distinguished from Google's business practices/statements as a search tool.
3. Studies have found about 91% of Google's everyday AI responses are accurate, leaving millions of searches per HOUR with potential liability for falsehoods. 56% of correct responses weren't supported by the sources the AI listed. Both of which mean Google is now liable for a LOT more AI "errors."
4. Google was held liable for 80% of court costs in this case and this precedent is expected to reverberate around the world. This is a massive shift from the 3rd-party search provider role Google has previously played and it comes right as they've tied ALL searches to their AI search.
Additional source and more details below. Absolutely thrilled to say that this is real. And yeah, it's huge.
For all the reasons above AND ALSO because this particular lawsuit is a defamation case
Privacy lawsuits are hard because most privacy laws are super super weak, and there's very rarely a lot of money or enforcement backing privacy laws for...twenty million reasons, really...
But defamation suits? Those have teeth.
(In large part because, at least in some countries and including in the US, defamation laws protect public figures the least - and "public figures" legally includes most if not all politicians, and a hell of a lot of other rich ppl too)
A Munich court ruled Google's AI Overviews are its own words, making it liable for false claims, a decision that, if it holds, could reach e
A German court has ruled that Google can be held directly liable for false claims made by its AI Overviews, a decision that could put a serious legal dent in the whole “the AI made me do it” defense.
According to The Next Web, the Regional Court of Munich issued a temporary injunction after Google’s AI Overviews wrongly tied two Munich publishers to scams, subscription traps, and dubious business practices. The court treated those AI-generated summaries as Google’s own statements, not just ordinary search results pointing to third-party pages.
That distinction matters. Search engines have traditionally had more protection because they index and link to other people’s content. AI Overviews changes the machinery. Google is not just showing the web anymore. It is summarizing it, rewriting it, and sometimes apparently hallucinating a tiny legal grenade into the results page.
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so you can shoot a black child in the back as he's running away and get away with it with zero consequences, but god forbid a black child defend himself, because that'll land him thirty-five fucking years in jail—which is basically a life sentence. half of his life will be over when his sentence is up. all the fake talk of progress in this country has just been a way to silence black people for speaking out against the countless horrific injustices we're forced to experience, from microagressions to outright murder. you literally cannot go a day without hearing about another black person falling victim to systemic racism and then having to listen to people justify why they deserved it. and we're supposed to hold no animosity whatsoever as we grin and bear it.
Text of tweet under the cut because it is loooong.
But... Stochastic Parrots.
Timnit Gebru was fired from Google in December 2020 for refusing to retract a research paper, and every single warning that paper made about large language models has now happened at a scale the industry spent 4 years trying to make people forget about.
Her name is Timnit Gebru.
She co-led the Ethical AI team at Google. She co-wrote a paper called "On the Dangers of Stochastic Parrots" with Emily Bender at the University of Washington and two other researchers. The paper was 14 pages long. It was submitted to a top AI ethics conference. And it was the reason Google decided that one of the most senior Black women in AI research could no longer work there.
The story Google told publicly was that she resigned. The story she told, confirmed by 2,695 of her colleagues in an open letter, was that she was fired by email while on vacation because she refused to either retract the paper or remove her name from it.
The paper had not even been published yet.
Here is what she actually wrote, and why every prediction inside it has now come true.
The first warning was about scale itself. Bender and Gebru argued that training ever-larger models on ever-larger scrapes of the internet would produce systems that appeared fluent but had no actual understanding of language. They called these systems stochastic parrots because they would repeat patterns from training data with statistical confidence and zero comprehension. The paper predicted that this apparent intelligence would fool both users and developers into trusting outputs that were structurally incapable of being reliable.
This was 2020. GPT-3 had just come out. The paper predicted the hallucination problem before anyone had a word for it.
The second warning was about bias amplification. The paper documented in detail that internet-scale training data contains systematic overrepresentation of dominant viewpoints and underrepresentation of marginalized ones. The models would not just absorb this bias. They would amplify it, because the optimization process rewards confident outputs, and confidence in language patterns tracks frequency in the training set.
The prediction was that hiring tools built on these models would discriminate against women. That healthcare triage tools would underperform on Black patients. That loan approval systems would entrench inequality while presenting their decisions as neutral algorithmic judgment.
Every one of those things has now been documented in deployment.
Amazon's hiring algorithm penalized resumes that contained the word "women" in any context. Healthcare risk scoring algorithms used by major US hospitals were found to systematically underestimate the medical needs of Black patients. Apple Card's credit algorithm gave wives credit lines 10x lower than their husbands for the same financial profile.
The third warning was about environmental cost. The paper calculated that training a single large language model produced emissions equivalent to the lifetime output of 5 cars. The prediction was that the race to scale would create an environmental footprint that would eventually rival entire industries.
In 2024, Google's emissions were up 48% from 2019, and the company explicitly blamed AI infrastructure. Microsoft's were up 29%, same reason. Both companies have now quietly abandoned the climate commitments they were publicly celebrating the year Gebru was fired.
The fourth warning was about documentation. The paper argued that the training datasets being assembled were too large for anyone to actually audit. Nobody at Google, OpenAI, Meta, or any other lab could tell you with confidence what was in the data their models were trained on. This was not a temporary problem to be solved later. It was a permanent feature of the approach.
In 2023, researchers discovered that the LAION-5B dataset, used to train Stable Diffusion and other major image models, contained thousands of images of child sexual abuse material. The companies that had trained on the dataset had no way of knowing. The paper predicted that category of failure 3 years before it was found.
The fifth warning was the one Google cared about most.
Bender and Gebru argued that the deployment of these systems would centralize linguistic and cultural power in the hands of the small number of companies that could afford to train them. The internet would become a place where the dominant voice was a statistical average of dominant voices, presented as a neutral assistant. Languages underrepresented in the training data would degrade over time as more web content was generated by these systems and fed back into the next training run.
This is now happening in real time. A 2024 study found that 57% of new web content in English is AI-generated or AI-assisted. Researchers studying low-resource languages have documented active degradation in translation quality, because the synthetic content fed back into training is itself worse in those languages.
The paper Google fired her for predicted the model collapse problem before model collapse had a name.
The mechanism behind why this all happened is the part of her work that nobody quotes.
Gebru's argument was not that AI is dangerous in some abstract sci-fi sense. Her argument was that AI is dangerous in a very specific structural sense. The technology was being built by a small group of researchers who shared similar backgrounds, worked at similar companies, and were rewarded for shipping products faster than competitors. The incentive structure made it impossible for safety, ethics, and bias concerns to slow anything down. Anyone inside the system who raised those concerns was either ignored, sidelined, or removed.
She was making that argument from inside Google.
Then Google proved her right by removing her.
The team Google had built to make sure their AI was safe was dismantled in 90 days because they did the job they had been hired to do. Margaret Mitchell, the other co-lead of the Ethical AI team, was fired two months after Gebru for searching through her own emails for evidence of how Gebru had been treated.
Gebru did not stop. She founded DAIR, the Distributed AI Research Institute, in 2021. The mission is to do AI research outside the control of the companies that have a financial interest in not hearing the answers.
Every prediction in the Stochastic Parrots paper has now been validated by deployment. Hallucinations are an industry-wide problem the largest labs cannot solve. Bias amplification has been documented in hiring, healthcare, lending, and criminal justice. Environmental costs are larger than entire small countries. Training data audits remain impossible. Model collapse is an active research crisis at every major lab.
The question worth sitting with is the one almost no one in the industry will say out loud.
Every researcher with the technical credibility to call out these problems watched what happened to her in December 2020 and made a calculation about their own career. The number of people willing to speak publicly about safety and ethics issues inside the major AI labs collapsed after that firing and has not recovered.
The researcher Google fired for warning about exactly what is now happening was right.
The company that fired her is now the second-largest deployer of the technology she warned about.
And the people inside that company who agree with her are not allowed to say so.
What about the final version of the flag by the original creator?
Gilbert Baker added a 9th stripe shortly before his death, with the new stripe representing diversity. He added this stripe in reaction to the 2016 US election. It’s unfortunately not as well known as the 8 and 6 striped versions.
Here’s an image of him sewing together the 9 striped rainbow flag.
I love when little creatures who are entirely loved and well cared for have the BIGGEST baby reactions to normal things. Like yes sweet pea, you DO have the hardest life of anyone ever, for sure, and you’re SO BRAVE about this minor inconvenience of *checks notes* having some water touch you
There is nothing sadder and more pathetic than a baby marine mammal having to get into the water. They are suffering the most out of any baby animal ever. How dare they be introduced to their natural environment.
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"Look at this post that shows how much I hate queer people, the homeless, the disabled, how I don't believe I should have to pay for someone else's kid to eat, believe service workers don't deserve a minimum wage, think people on SNAP don't deserve sweets, addicts don't deserve sympathy, socialism is a failure, oh and I'm also racist."
Transcript: Why does this shit always ha - every time I go to the beach, some fuckin mollusk or dead thing pulls up. Are you at least alive? I mean, I don’t remember you being on my towel, so I’m gonna [pokes the crab] oh! wait [pokes it again] Oh! Big boy. [gasps as the crab runs away] He’s a fa - what the fuck? Does he - live in the sea? [gasps]
Although not going by the term "asexual" yet, asexuality was spoken about alongside homosexuality as far back as the 1890s. Asexual history is just as vital to queer history as any other term and I'm so tired of watching us being treated like a new thing
Hoping mine will be the Ace plane if I can ever finish it 🥺
I have a couple concepts in mind for the Preceptor Ultra Pup's livery + a mascot :3
It's just taking forever cause I've had to slowly buy all the tooling/materials between school & work. But a little bit at a time, slowly rebuilding the bird from scrap :'3
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Stuck on thinking about post AoZ and pre 1999 drifter.
Imagine like… knowing that you can only exist for a brief time, and then you’re reduced to a shadow in someone else’s head or you’re back on the Fucking Zariman Again (in eggman voice)
Even if youre able to take the stage for a bit and feel the sun, you cant stay forever.
Besides. Everybody wants the other you. Youre not even a tenno. You’re tolerated at best. Nobody bothers with the title to replace the name you forgot, even though that title is the closest thing you have to one now. Not even the cephalon programed to love you (not you, dumbass, the other you, the wanted one) ever used it once. Despite you asking. (i checked and it made me go :(
It’s not like anyone you helped out really cared, either. The lotus tried to kill you the moment she could. Nobody bothered with dropping by your little camp until the operator came back. Why would they. Its only you there.
So choose.
Be selfish, demand that you get to feel the real sun on your real face, even though you know nobody wants you here, when they could have a better version?
Be nothing, a bystander in the back of someone elses head, watching as they are loved and used in equal measure? (just like you always wanted- but you could never work hard enough in duviri.)
Or go back to hell.
Back to the Zariman with its infinite angel song that you got to know so well that you handcrafted physical insanity from it. Back to a place youve seen for so long that you stopped seeing it. Back to the root of everything wrong with you.
But it needs you. Right? Needs you until other tenno start showing up, and then you’re not Necessary anymore. Because other people can do your job. Take a break, drifter. Relax. Go stare into the void a little more. Go remember.
Or theres always going back Duviri. The place you spent the last thousand years dreaming of getting out of. The place thats killed you in so many ways you started to forget yesterday. The place you were too useless and helpless to ever be able to escape on your own. (And the lotus didnt care about helping you. Didnt want your help either. Didnt want you. Youre not a tenno.)
Didnt Thrax always say there was nothing out there? Nothing but the Zariman. That there was nothing better than this. You only kept going because you needed it to be wrong.
Was it, though? Was it really?
The more I think about it, the more the Lotus kicking the drifter out of the main timeline and into 1999 has a sad sort of mercy to it, directly in line with it simply reaffirming that thrax was right.
Of course the drifter is a people pleaser to the nth degree. They’d rip their own heart out if it meant there was a chance at anyone seeing it.
Of course they’ll be anything and mould themself to any situation. At least it means they’ll fit *somewhere*. At least it means they’re useful enough to keep around, even if only for a little bit.
Maybe if they care enough, do enough, try hard enough, somebody will care about them too. It hasn’t happened yet outside of Teshin, but Teshin’s back in Duviri, isnt he. The only light resides in the darkest ring of hell.
Like some of the paths of conversations you can take *really* put out that Drifter is trying to appeal to each Protoframe. From remembering how to appease Arthur is via a pint. Or with Quincy is to be totally ok and fine with him claiming Drifter owes him favors.
I agree that 1000% Drifter is a people pleaser. After millennia of being an apparent disappointment that they needed to be murdered repeatedly, after being insulted, undesired, unremembered, sent to die to hunt the Archons for the Lotus, who sees Drifter the same as Rell. Why *wouldn't* Drifter do what they can to please each and every Protoframe?
It's also no wonder that it would be Drifter to ask them out to date. Because they felt they were finally desired, wanted, deserving of love for once in their lives compared to the Operator, that they felt brave to ask. And don't get me started on how excited the protos are when you ask them out... cuz damn aren't they also are thinking they're undesirable due to being protoframes...
But geez...
Drifter just...
They needed 99 to just feel wanted for once. Even if it is a consistent loop of the same year, it's being surrounded by people who chose them as Drifter chose them.
Like. I bet the reason why none of them asked out the drifter first is because they flat out knew the drifter would simply Not Say No. That there’d be no way to ensure consent to it outside of transference digging through the drifters brain to actually tell that they really did want it and they weren’t just auto latching onto whatever would a, make the protos the happiest, and b, would mean they were even just a tiny bit wanted in any way.
Also the whole gifting system is just another showcase of how much of a people pleaser the drifter is. Like. Specially logging things they like, implications that they did something right, (sparkly text) buying stuff to maybe have them like the drifter just a tiny :pinch: bit more even though nobody gets the drifter anything.
(Not a knock in the hex to be clear, I dont think gifts were ever an expectation nor do they seem to have the time/space until post rank 5-6. Where such things are thank god mentioned)
While it's likely not intentional, I've always interpreted the tonal inconsistencies across different KIM chats as Drifter mimicking whoever they're talking to (note how they speak to Arthur vs Aoi vs Quincy) in an attempt to appeal to them. It always felt like to me that they're trying to match their conversational partners' energy, so to speak.
Curiously, I felt like this was less of a thing in Devil's Triad, which one could read as Drifter starting to feel more confident in their own personality. Additionally, it always seems like Drifter tends to be way less patient with characters that are younger or immature like Kaya and Amir (resentment towards youths?).
Oh honestly I fully think it was, and absolutely yeah it does read as mimicry.
Also. As far as the resentment goes, I do think thats a leftover from Duviri acting up, tbh. Like, For so long, anything even remotely genuinely expressive was deemed childish, and that was deemed as grounds to completely dismiss or belittle, right. And now we have someone whos had that beaten into them for hundreds of years dealing with people who are expressive and on occasion childish.
Its a recipe for disaster, and one that I think would be SIGNIFICANTLY worse if the drifter didnt want to be liked so badly.
I do see the triad as progression on the drifter’s side too. Theres a lot more consistency in tone, and… like they genuinely full on crash out at Marie for saying that maybe Albrecht was justified/not horrid for leaving the drifter in Duviri, and we reaaaally dont see the drifter express anger basically at all before the triad. They get pissed, but that normally winds up in terse messages, snappy remarks, and ended chats.
I cant remember exactly but im p sure the drifter was using capslock like woah there buddy (not woa there go fucking psycho. Not that marie deserves it but the drifter gotta yell sometime)
Dude I went to college and there was graffiti on the bathroom walls and we were absolutely paying obscene amounts of money to use those bathrooms. Money is not going to stop someone from vandalism, and in fact it might make them feel more entitled to it.
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