Side blog for my wheel of time reading journey. /!\ Not spoilers free. I'm at Gathering storm but i couldn't wait to finish the saga to start my reread and i need to put my thoughts somewhere. English isn't my first language.
This is a side blog for my wheel of time reading journey
I haven't finish my first read but i couldn't wait to finish the saga to start my reread and I need to put my thoughts somewhere. I don't mind spoilers, it only increase my appreciation of a story (and I know most of the plot twist already)
Every reading note is tagged with the novel and chapters titles (with the format Chapter [insert number] : title of the chapter), plus the character(s) I mention if needed.
English is not my first language, so if you see any typos or mistakes, don't be surprised (I read and understand fluently, but my writing is far from perfect).
Feel free to talk to me anytime, I'm a new fan so I don't know anyone but I'd love to talk about the Wheel of Time with you!
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Hylas and the Nymphs (1896) by John William Waterhouse.
Totally random but William Waterhouse is one of my favorite painters, and every time I see this painting, I can't help but think of Rand's dreams in the pond with Elayne, Min, and Aviendha.
so fucking humbling to be like âno I like that character a normal amountâ and then you can literally feel your heart rate spike at a mention of them like a dog that just heard the word âtreatâ
"The standard of the Dragon has been raised, and men flock to oppose. And to support."
This raises the question of what exactly the standard was. No one knows what a dragon looks like, so how could Logain have found a banner adorned with a dragon? Was it really a dragon, or did he invent some random creature? But then again, he was a minor nobleman, so perhaps he had access to books containing depictions of dragons.
he can wield the One Power. The others couldn't. But he can channel. The ground opens beneath his enemies' feet, and strong walls crumble at his shout. Lightning comes when he calls and strikes where he points.
First mention of the things possible with channeling! And it's from Logain, so, a win for him I guess.
I don't think it's that Logain knew about the concept of a dragon, so much as the image has survived from the AoL and retained its association with LTT. By the current time, it seems that the specific heraldic image means nothing more than the Dragon & Dragon Reborn, and the word applies to that soul in either of his two most recent known* incarnations.
*A crack theory of mine is that Guaire Amalasan might actually have been LTT reincarnated, in order to spur the rise of Hawkwing's reputation, so that he could create the mega state capable of fighting off the next millennial Trolloc irruption. It's mostly derived from Hawkwing's comment in tGH that he & Rand have often been spun out to oppose each other for the Pattern's purposes. In this case, maybe the alt plan was for Guaire to unite the wetlands under the Dragon banner and defeat the Trollocs. Basically, the Pattern did not want a repeat of the Trolloc Wars, so it threw two (or more) of its biggest guns back into the world so that one of them might be able to rally people to stop it.
Your theory is interesting, I like the idea that despite being LTT, he isn't by default the most important or successful man in every life. It makes sense that he could be reincarnated in many of the ages (sometimes multiple times in the same one) and not be the Main Character⢠every time.
He stared at that braid as if it were a viper, [...] Somehow, it had never occurred to him that she would reach marriageable age at the same time that he did.
"Just because someone is old enough to marry," he muttered, "doesn't mean they should. Not right away."
"Of course not. Or ever, for that matter."
Rand blinked. "Ever?"
"A Wisdom almost never marries. Nynaeve has been teaching me, you know. She says I have a talent, that I can learn to listen to the wind.
I've already talked about this at length, so I won't go over it again. But it's funny to see how Rand spent a chapter and a half thinking he didn't want to see Egwene, that he didn't feel ready to get married, and as soon as she said she didn't want to get married, he acts like a kicked puppy.
It reminds me of how he convinces himself he shouldn't be in a romantic relationship with Elayne, but when she destroys his dragon banners, Min has to shake him until he stops sulking.
[Rand] "Outside the Two Rivers? I'd never see you again."
[Egwene] "And you wouldn't like that? You have not given any sign lately that you'd care one way or another."
[...] Maybe I want to see the places I heard about in the stories. Have you ever thought of that?"
[Rand] "Of course I have. I daydream sometimes, but I know the difference between daydreams and what's real."
"And I do not?" she said furiously, and promptly turned her back on him.
Rand, please, do try not to be the most condescending guy in town. How did they managed to last until the Shadow Rising?
He's not being condescending. The quote is cut off before he tries to explain that for HIM seeing other places is a daydream that he accepts is unlikely to happen.
Egwene is absolutely behaving in bad faith, here. "You have not given any sign lately that you'd care one way or another." She's flaunting her career options to get Rand to make a dramatic gesture or indication of her supreme importance to him. What she does not like is Rand's attachment to the Two Rivers above a single member of the community, and his unwillingness to leave behind his father and friends to follow her on her highly unrealistic plan to pursue a career that gratifies her ambitions.
The problem in their relationship is that Rand understands her too well for her comfort or to be happy in a real relationship with her. The argument is immediately preceded by her announcement of her studying to become a Wisdom, which Rand finds highly amusing. This is because the job is for life, and the current one is 24, so there is not likely to be an opening for fifty years or more, as he points out. And Rand knows Egwene would never be satisfied as the Wisdom's assistant, that for her it is all about the rank & status, not the service.
My theory is that this attitude underlies her pursuit of a relationship with Rand - before she knows that she might be qualified to be a Wisdom, the highest rank or status to which she might aspire is the female head of the household. With the domestic pattern in the Two Rivers being extended families in one home, that means in most cases, Egwene would move in with her husband's family, with several senior female members of the household, and, as with being Nynaeve's understudy, decades before she could hope to rise to the top. Or he would move in with her, and help her parents operate the inn, in which case, she is still the baby sister, and under her mother's authority. But by marrying Rand, and moving into a household that is A. at some physical remove from the village authority figures, and B. without other women, she would instantly attain that desired status. Suddenly, she would be Mistress al'Thor and the literal mistress of their home. All the decisions which devolve into the women's sphere of influence or authority would be hers alone. The al'Thor kitchen would be her kitchen, people who didn't wipe their boots at the door would be tramping mud on her floors and she could rebuke even the mayor for doing so. And people in the village would treat her as the important one in the family, rather than one of Tam's children, because the women of the community are heavily invested in the idea that within their sphere of activities, a woman's word is law over a man's.
Consistently through the whole series, Egwene is all about the rank, status and authority of her position, with no particular attachment to the work or purpose of said position, except as it relates to her retention of the aforementioned rank, status & authority, or her chances of climbing the ladder. She is particularly ungracious about anyone claiming a higher status or superior position than she, or exercising authority over her, however rightfully so.
I have a more lenient interpretation of Egwene, she is certainly very ambitious and doesn't hesitate to do whatever it takes to achieve her goals, but I sincerely believe that she loves and cares for her friends. The tension between friendship/love and ambition/power is a recurring theme throughout her journey and she chose the latter many time over the former, that's true, but it doesn't completely erase her love and care.
But I understand your interpretation; she really gets on my nerves at times with some of her thoughts and decisions, I suppose the fact that she's so young makes me more inclined to forgive certain things (on top of the fact that it's rare for me to dislike a character).
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"And I expect you're eager to see Egwene."
Rand managed a weak smile. Of all things he might want to think about right then, the Mayor daughter was far down the list
All their lives, Egwene and Rand heard they were going to marry, they accepted the fact. They like each other and they are even attracted to each other, but they don't want to marry, and they don't know how to express this. They don't know what the love and care they have for each other could be if it's not romantic love.
And maybe it's romantic at this point, after years of thinking themselves in love because everyone said they were, it's probable that real romantic feeling blossomed (especially since in the multiple alternate universes they would later see, they were together). But it remains something that was imposed on them.
Now that both of them are of a marriageable age for their village, the awkwardness is real. Whether they love each other romantically or not, they are not ready for marriage, so their relationship is at a standstill and they don't know which direction to take.
I would push back on the idea that the situation is mutual. Egwene seems, from Rand's perception on the issue, to have been the one driving their pairing. Rand seems to think, in comparison the Ogier matchmaking process, that she initiated that same process by which the village came to see them as a couple.
Rand's not thrilled at the idea, but it's what's expected of him, and he likes Egwene, and can't see a way to push back without hurting her. Whereas Egwene has zero qualms about dropping him in favor of anything (power/status) dearer to her heart.
My interpretation comes from the Raven's prologue, where Egwene, influenced by the village's expectations regarding their marriage, felt she should marry him, which prompted her to make the first move towards him, thus leading him to feel obliged to share that feeling and marry her as well.
Has Graendal, a Forsaken, Aes Sedai of the Age of Legends, forgotten that she could simply ignore the heat? Has she also forgotten that weaving the air around her is useless because it would spread throughout the surrounding air and become ineffective?
The answer, for just about everything in this and subsequent books, is that Brandon Sanderson has an alarmingly poor grasp of the worldbuilding of the series, and the experience, knowledge and abilities of the characters.
He also forgets in the same book that Graendal hates nature and avoids even being around windows with outdoor views, or that she knows damn well what is going on with Demandred, Mesaana & Semirhage.
Yes, I finished Gathering Storm a few days ago, and numerous minor inconsistencies sometimes pulled me out of the story. But I can overlook the wordbuilding errors; what really bothers me is when he writes a character's point of view and I can tell he didn't grasp the character at all (this is obvious for several of them, and many of my favorites didn't even appear in tGS, so I'm worried about ToM).
What I take away from this first volume by Brandon Sanderson is that I have to consider all the events as canonical, but nothing surrounding them is (such as the characters' thoughts, their motivations, their dialogues, the How and the Why these canon events happen that way).
I have to consider all the events as canonical, but nothing surrounding them is
That is exactly the attitude I take toward the Sanderson books.
For ToM, my sketchy recollection (I really only read them once, aside from times I skimmed for details for certain projects of mine) is that it's even worse, because the characters he really made an effort for were in tGS. He really does not seem to understand Mat, Elayne, Aviendha or Galad at all. What's worse, is that for most of the characters, he does not even get their arcs. Like, the fact that the arcs happened. If a character said or did something at some point in the series, that is a valid aspect of their character, as far as he is concerned, and never mind that they might have spent 4-6 books working to get over that attitude or grow beyond that behavior.
Yeah, characters seems to be his biggest weakness from what I've seen, I've only read a few chapters of ToM yet (and I skimmed ahead to see more of the Galad and Perrin plotline to see if I had something to look forward to as Galad is one of my favorites characters), but I can already tell I won't like the way he wrote him. It so different from his pov in KoD prologue and all his previous appearances, it's as if he isn't a three dimensional character anymore (which unfortunately seems to be the case for many characters).
Regarding your last point about the characters arcs that he completely ignores, you managed to put words to something that was bothering me without being able to explain clearly. That's exactly it, it's as if they were a flattened version of them in all the previous volumes at once, instead of being who they are at the end of KoD.
I'm a bit worried about what's next, but I'll continue and finish the serie, even if i never pick up the last three volume ever again after that.
Constellations and stars are often mentioned in books, which made me think : The AoL is supposed to be a near-utopian world, free from pollution, but light pollution certainly existed, didn't it? They couldn't have found a solution, so the inhabitants of urban areas had to make do with a dreary night sky, almost devoid of stars.
Which brings me to my conclusion: the Forsaken have truly lost all capacity to marvel at the world, since they never made any note of the magnificent starlight of the Third Age. Not even Aran'gar.
I wonder about the light pollution, though. Would they have had the same needs for light that we do? Would their cities have needed so much advertising? Would they have need to have things lit up for the 24/7 hustle of a city populated by people striving to get ahead and make it big? Could their One Power technology have developed ways to deal with the darkness that did not require blasting light indiscriminately everywhere? In a world with little to no crime, and no point to property crime, how important are streetlights, against the benefits of a good night's sleep? The invention & widespread use of chora trees suggests they valued peace and calm to the point they actually worked to accentuate that kind of experience. If their attitude is that a city is a wilderness without chora trees, would they really also be so narrow in their material focus that they drown out the night sky with promiscuous illumination?
Yes, that's a good point, I hadn't thought of that. I imagined that even in such a world, there will always be people who need to walk in the street at night (for work or in case of emergency). But I suppose that if they had other ways to deal with the darkness without blasting light it wouldn't be a problem (I admit I don't know much about the AoL yet as I wait until I finish the main serie before reading other works related to it)
In the specific case of advertising, I don't think the absence of it would makes much of a difference though. In my country, luminous advertising is strictly regulated and prohibited at night (with a few rare exceptions), and yet, light pollution persists, if only with streetlights (Not as bad as in countries where it's allowed, of course, but visibility of the sky is still reduced).
Constellations and stars are often mentioned in books, which made me think : The AoL is supposed to be a near-utopian world, free from pollution, but light pollution certainly existed, didn't it? They couldn't have found a solution, so the inhabitants of urban areas had to make do with a dreary night sky, almost devoid of stars.
Which brings me to my conclusion: the Forsaken have truly lost all capacity to marvel at the world, since they never made any note of the magnificent starlight of the Third Age. Not even Aran'gar.
Just wondering if you've ever the World of the Wheel of Time otherwise known as 'The Big Book of Bad Art'? Because a lot of the info for AOL and other worldbuilding in 3rd Age comes from there, it's not all accurate as it's filtered through an in-world scholar/sources, but it's basically RJ's early notes. The reason I bring this up is it has a lot of cool info and in answer to your question, AOL WAS pollution free. Their power source (pun not intended) was the One Power - so completely clean (and in fact divine reallyâŚ), and it's specifically mentioned in the BBOBA that Aes Sedai could break down waste at a sub atomic level so there was no pollution. Their society in Late stage AOL was focused on beauty as much as functionality and service so lots of gardens, parks etc. I've also extrapolated this to mean Aes Sedai or proto Aes Sedai cleaned up the remnants of the nuclear war that is heavily implied to have ended the First Age. They were so advanced that they could Travel to other planets and star systems via the One Power and other dimensions so they could do many things.
As for the Forsaken, I think not only did they have their own major flaws, but they were heavily corrupted by direct access to the DO so their ability to feel positive emotions like appreciation for beauty would have been much more limited. However, to counter your original point - do you remember Lanfear wanting to continue sleeping under the stars in TGH? She certainly appreciated the stars...
I haven't read it yet, I want to finish the main serie before reading things surrounding it, but I knew that AoL was free of pollution. My question was solely about light pollution, a problem they have no control over: if there are cities, there is light at night, and if there is light at night, the stars are not as bright.
And I forgot about that, it perfectly fitting for someone calling herself 'Selene' to have a fondness for stars and night sky. I like to imagine she looks at stars and think about thermonuclear fusion and the power each small bright spot in the sky has.
Constellations and stars are often mentioned in books, which made me think : The AoL is supposed to be a near-utopian world, free from pollution, but light pollution certainly existed, didn't it? They couldn't have found a solution, so the inhabitants of urban areas had to make do with a dreary night sky, almost devoid of stars.
Which brings me to my conclusion: the Forsaken have truly lost all capacity to marvel at the world, since they never made any note of the magnificent starlight of the Third Age. Not even Aran'gar.
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Has Graendal, a Forsaken, Aes Sedai of the Age of Legends, forgotten that she could simply ignore the heat? Has she also forgotten that weaving the air around her is useless because it would spread throughout the surrounding air and become ineffective?
The answer, for just about everything in this and subsequent books, is that Brandon Sanderson has an alarmingly poor grasp of the worldbuilding of the series, and the experience, knowledge and abilities of the characters.
He also forgets in the same book that Graendal hates nature and avoids even being around windows with outdoor views, or that she knows damn well what is going on with Demandred, Mesaana & Semirhage.
Yes, I finished Gathering Storm a few days ago, and numerous minor inconsistencies sometimes pulled me out of the story. But I can overlook the wordbuilding errors; what really bothers me is when he writes a character's point of view and I can tell he didn't grasp the character at all (this is obvious for several of them, and many of my favorites didn't even appear in tGS, so I'm worried about ToM).
What I take away from this first volume by Brandon Sanderson is that I have to consider all the events as canonical, but nothing surrounding them is (such as the characters' thoughts, their motivations, their dialogues, the How and the Why these canon events happen that way).
My eyes got a little wet listening to the veins of gold chapter.
But is my English really that bad, or was Brandon Sanderson unaware of the meaning of certain words? Especially those of Latin origin, I noticed he used them at odd times. Since my native language is a romance language, it really struck me.
The latest exemple is from chapter 50 : Veins of gold :
The power within him reached a crescendo, and he turned it upon itself, drove it through the access key.
In this context, it makes no sense, a crescendo is a gradual increase. Rand had been drawing more and more power over the last three pages, so he reached a peak, not a crescendo.
(Unless the meaning of this word has evolved in English to mean something different? But that would be weird as it is a musical term first)
WoT Meta: The Politics of Western Andor, Perrin's character arc, and escapism through realism
When I was writing my Feudalism and the Politics of WoT meta I had initially intended to get more into Western Andor and Perrinâs arc of becoming a Feudal Lord (somewhat against his will), but I ended up cutting that section because the essay had already grown way too long and ultimately it was straying off topic from the what my Feudalism essay was trying to say. However I still wanted to talk about Western Andor, so I ended up deciding to spin it off into its own meta post and go more in depth about how it relates to Jordanâs world building and what heâs trying to say about politics and people.
The Impact of a Falling Population
To briefly summarize the relevant portion from my Feudalism essay: the Westlands in WoT (our main setting and Jordanâs pseudo-Europe) have been experiencing a protracted period of population decline for around the last thousand years or so, since at least the War of the Hundred Years. Ingtar talks about this early on in TGH:
(The Great Hunt, Chapter 10: The Hunt Begins. Emphasis mine.)
Jordan never gives an exact reason for why this population decline is occurring but itâs not hard to infer. A combination of three major cataclysm events each bad enough to completely reshape society (The Breaking, the Trolloc Wars, and The War of the Hundred Years), combined with an endless conflict along the Blight Border which even when it isnât directly impacting the southern nations is still attriting resources and damaging trade, as well as a consistent decay in terms of technology and knowledge due to economic instability and a lack of dedicated institutions meant to preserve that knowledge, all combine together and feed into one another to create a spiral that keeps the population shrinking, and the various nations in, at best, states of tenuous stability.
One thing that shows this, especially with regards to the War of the Hundred Years, is the state of the Seanchan and the Aiel. Both groups are experiencing consistent population growth rather than decline: The Seanchan have enough excess population that they can afford to run huge emigration programs as part of the Haline, while the Aiel are growing their population consistently enough that they can field an army capable of completely dwarfing anything even the combined kingdoms of the Westlands can field, and have a set protocol for when a Hold becomes too large and needs to divide and a new Hold be established. For the Seanchan, this population growth can be explained in part by their imperialism- that endless cycle of âexpand, subdue, consolidate, repeatâ which sustains the Empireâs wealth and power. But for the Aiel itâs very remarkable that they can sustain a consistent population growth given the resource scarcity of the Waste and the fierce resulting competition.
In both cases, while the Aiel and the Seanchan (as a continent, and pre-Empire) had to deal with the Trolloc Wars they did not have to deal with the War of the Hundred Years, and have not faced pressure from their respective Blightborders since the end of the Trolloc Wars. The Seanchan seem to have succeeded in completely erasing the Trolloc population in their section of the Blight, and the Aiel in punishing the Trollocs militarily to the point where the Trollocs fear Aiel incursion rather than the other way around. The absence of the resulting pressure affords them a lot more space to establish institutional authority and lets them govern more effectively.
But for the Westlands, it's a different story.
In the Westlands these pressures have led to a problem we never really had in real world feudalism: more land then there are aristocrats to govern it. One of the problems with feudalism in our history was that there was always more aristocrats than there was land to be divided up for them to govern. Thatâs one of the reasons primogeniture succession (where the eldest inherits either all or the vast majority of the titles) became necessary. A lord dividing their titles among their prospective children (especially equally as it was usually in gavelkind succession) was a recipe for either diluting a dynastyâs power, or ensuring civil war. This lead to a paradox: it was good, and often necessary for a monarch or a noble to have a secure line of succession, i.e lots of children to be prospective heirs. But those further down the chain abruptly become liabilities to the dynasty once the eldest was old enough to marry, and begin producing heirs of their own.
The way Europe dealt with this problem in the real world was through numerous institutions and traditions that developed largely as a dumping ground for children who did not stand to inherit anything, or could not marry into wealth. Monasteries, universities, military academies, mercenary companies, and the priesthood all provided ways for noble children who otherwise stood to inherit nothing or very little to maintain a decent standard of living and their place in society.Â
But there is an almost complete absence of such institutions in the Westlands. There are individual scholars (who depend on noble patronage- serving as advisors, librarians, or tutors in exchange for financial support), but no universities or academies (not even as an idea) until Rand founds one in Lord of Chaos. While the Aes Sedai certainly have a great many noble daughters among their number, their ability to be a safety net for those lower down the totem pole of succession is sharply limited by the fact that you need to be a be able to channel to join, and there is no way to guarantee the second or third daughter will be able to do that. The Whitecloaks might also include a fair number of second or third noble children among their ranks- but theyâre limited to just Amadacia, Tarabon, and a few other southern countries in their scope, and there are no similar institutions elsewhere in the Westlands.
The absence of those kind of institutions makes sense when you consider that the excess of land to aristocrats means that even second or third children can easily be provided with estates to govern if they so wish- and in fact it better serves their House and country if they do take on estates rather than running off to make their own way in the world.Â
The case study here is Moiraineâs father: Dairesin Damodred. Despite being in the ideal position to become a career scholar, as one of four brothers in a royal house, Dairesin instead had to split his time between his estates and his scholarly pursuits, and came under considerable scorn from his brothers for doing so, as well as for making a love match with his second marriage instead of a political one. Now that could just be Laman and the others being assholes, but we also know that Dairesin was managing at least enough land to set some aside for Moiraine, (his youngest daughter) because she is still collecting income from it during New Spring.
This is also why itâs possible for Gawyn to have lands granted to him by Morgase (likely from either her personal holdings or holdings reserved to the High Seat of the House) without risking diluting her power or Elayneâs inheritance. Most noble houses probably command enough land that they can afford to set some aside for second or even third children without too much worry. The quality and relative development of that land might vary wildly and the work of those second or third children is likely cut out for them when it comes to actually organizing and running the estate, but the land is there for any aristocrat who has need of it to keep their place in peerage society.
Autonomy, Vassalage, and the Pre-Industrial Nation StateÂ
The politics of Western Andor are intrinsically linked to this population decline and its effects on society.Â
One of the reasons feudalism was ubiquitous in medieval and renaissance Europe was because before the advent of the steam engine it was actually a very effective way to organize a large state. When you have to get everywhere (and transport everything) by horse and do almost everything by hand, logistical realities restrain a governmentâs power tightly- generally to no father then can be reached in a few days, or at best, a few weeks, from the center of control.
This is something that comes up quite a bit in the books- how far a âwrit runsâ i.e how far leaders can project power beyond their center of control is a major factor in judging how strong a nation is. For city states like Mayene or Far Madding this isnât a big deal. They donât need large swathes of land in order to sustain their government and power since they can depend on trade for food stability, and so only need their writ to expand a few daysâ ride out from their city.Â
Large Kingdoms are different and the writs of their rulers are a major factor in keeping their nations together and prosperous. Morgaseâs writ runs very far compared to her peers: much farther then Tylinâs (whose influence we are told you could leave with no more than a fast horse and half a day to get from Ebou Dar). But it seems to be stretched thin once you reach Whitebridge and non-existent just a little ways past it. Meanwhile one of the signs of Hardanâs fall (discussed above) was that its kingâs writ couldnât even control his own capital. Itâs no coincidence that (also in The Great Hunt) Cairhien displays the exact same problem, with Galladrian unable to keep check on his own capital or wrangle his nobles in any meaningful way.
For a monarch these limitations matter, because once you leave the sphere of lands over which they are personally capable of commanding, things like collecting taxes, equipping armies, securing roads and borders, enforcing the law (i.e all of the basic functions of government) begin presenting huge logistical challenges. Even just getting the right orders to the right people can prove monstrously difficult. Rulers can employ vast bureaucracies and appointed governorships to do most of the work and in real life several Empires did exactly that (most notably Rome and China) but these systems are precarious, expensive, and incredibly difficult to keep from being corrupted (as China and Romeâs various frequent civil wars, uprisings, and collapses demonstrate quite handily).
This is where vassals come in. Instead of having to micromanage all the territory beneath their rule and arrange, pay for, and ensure the integrity of independent judicial courts, tax collectors, bureaucrats, local guards, etc a monarch could simply outsource that to a local noble family. Said families are usually more trusted and understand the needs of their people better than a king or queen who might go their entire lives without setting foot in that village or town. The nobles pay taxes, enforce the crownâs laws, and oversee the defense from things like bandits, in exchange for protection from foreign invasion and membership into the monarchâs state. This relationship- called vassalage- is the foundation of the feudal system.
Tying the stability of the state to the interpersonal relationships of these families seems like, at best, a quaint notion to us now, but before industrialization made communication easier it was very effective, allowing kingdoms to expand to incredible size, become more interconnected and gain a higher standard of living than would otherwise be possible. It also meant that a monarch needed only to acquire the vassalage of a local noble (or install one loyal to them) in order to add new swaths of land to their realms.
But what happens when you struggle to have enough aristocrats to manage the land? When whole swathes of a kingdom can go without a noble house managing to arise or entrench itself in the area? In our history this would have been an open invitation for a foreign invasion: poorly managed lands or lands not managed at all right on the border are prime targets for powers seeking to expand.Â
But in Jordanâs world this isnât really the case. And this is because taking land is easy, but governing it without the necessary nobility or some other system to administer the area is a useless exercise. Nations still try- Arad Doman and Tarabon have been squabbling over Almoth Plain and Tear and Illian over the Plains of Maredo for centuries- but most seem to realize itâs fruitless to conquer empty wilderness thatâs barely settled to begin with.Â
That creates pockets within these kingdomsâde facto independent regions who are largely autonomous even when lines on a map put them in this nation or that, where only the thinnest ties of trade, culture, or power actually seem to hold them.
Which brings us to neatly the Two Rivers.
The Two Rivers, Lordship and the House of Aybara
The Two Rivers is extremely weird.
Because it is the hometown of Our Heroes itâs incredibly easy to forget or even not realize just how strange the Two Rivers is on a macro world building scale. Since itâs Normal To Our Heroes and in many ways conforms to our biases and expectations of what Normal in a medieval society should look we have a tendency to view it as the baseline and everything else in relation to it- much like The Emondâs Field Five do in the story itself.Â
And yet if you sit with it for any length of time just how strange the Two Rivers is starts to really settle in. Itâs the source of two major exports- tobacco and wool- that have name recognition across the continent and the âTwo Rivers tobacâ in particular is a luxury item sold for high prices in foreign markets. Yet not only does that wealth not make it back to the Two Rivers at all most of those who smoke Two Rivers tobac (including Gareth Bryne chief general of the nation that produces it) would struggle to find the Two Rivers on a map. There is no real government or authority beyond local village elders, and yet the community is generally speaking harmonious, peaceful, and idyllic: there's been no murders in living memory, and the worst crimes that anyone can seem to imagine are petty theft and cheating in trade deals. And maybe strangest of all, despite being at the border of three nations and a major economic contributor to a third, the Two Rivers has only the vaguest notion of kings or nations at all, most not even realizing they are part of a nation, or owe fealty to a Queen.
This is not a criticism of the Two Rivers as written. All this makes sense if you take into account Jordanâs world building, and how each of these factors plays into the others. Farmers in the Two Rivers could just plant endless rows of tobacco and sell it as a cash crop to bring massive wealth into the region, except most are not aware that their tobacco is that valuable and in fact Rand tells us early into Eye of the World that âfew farmers in the Two Rivers could make do without both wool and tabac to sell when the merchants came.â (Eye of the World, Chapter 5: Winternight. Emphasis mine.) This means that the merchants from Baerlon are drastically shorting the Two Rivers farmers when they come to buy tobacco, then re-sell it for a large profit likely to other traders who can transport it yet farther- something possible only because the Two Rivers is so geographically isolated from the rest of the world.Â
Since that wealth isnât flowing into the Two Rivers most people can not afford to trade for their food and the area has to be food stable in order to survive, which in turn limits the amount of tobacco they can plant and helps create scarcity, as farmers keep diversified crop fields (Rand and Tam for example are growing peas stalks, cabbages and beets alongside tobacco and raising sheep). Ironically this is also a part of why Two Rivers tabac is so valuable- the limited supply and high demand turn it from just âvaluable commodityâ into a âstatus symbolâ, and one that is frequently found being smoked by great captains and high councilors as a result- likely making a very high profit for the traders and incentivizing them to stay tight lipped about their sources to avoid both being cut out of the trade or the Two Rivers learning the worth of the product.Â
This precarious state of affairs regarding the tabac that can persist only because of how remote and isolated the Two Rivers is is. That isolation and remoteness also buffers the Two Rivers from many of the troubles of the world. Even though it would normally be very attractive for Ghealdan, Saldea, or Arad Doman to move into the area, the combination of the geographic barriers and administrative troubles make it untenable. Ghealdan is the biggest threat here: if they really wanted to they could just cut a road through the Forest of Shadows, bridge the White River and probably take a large swath of land including the Two Rivers without much of a fight. But they would never be able to hold on to it. Without local nobility to vassalize or install, it would be a logistical nightmare for the reasons described earlier. They simply do not have the administrative capacity to pull it off.
Meanwhile Andorâs throne is more concerned with Baerlon and the northern parts of the region, as Morgase herself freely admits-
(The Fires of Heaven, Chapter 19: Memories- Emphasis mine.)
The wool and especially tabac are valuable, but the mineral trade is absolutely critical to Andorâs stability. That âmodicum of controlâ is reflected by the fact that Morgase (and her predecessors) made the unusual choice to appoint a governor in Baerlon, to oversee those mining and smelting operations. The fact that was necessary- that there was no nobility anywhere in the West who could be depended upon to manage this resource on which the Andoran state absolutely depends, is again a reflection of how even in more prosperous countries the falling population is taking its toll.
Also consider that several characters pretend to be (Rahvin) or are mistaken for (Rand and Mat) nobility out of Western Andor and no one thinks to challenge or question this. That shows just how disconnected the West is from the rest of Andor. We only know of one genuine prominent Western noble- Danine Candraed- whose position is apparently so precarious that she feels the need to sit out and dither through not one but two succession crises, when her support might otherwise be leveraged to great benefit.
So: no one is coming from outside Andor for the Two Rivers and no is coming from inside Andor for the Two Rivers. The area produces enough food that it need not depend on trade to feed and even grow its populace fairly regularly, its social tensions while present (especially in terms of xenophobia and conservative norms) are managed well by village elders, and the same barriers that keep Arad Doman and Saldaea out also serve to keep bandits and other threats distant.Â
In short, the Two Rivers exists in an insulated bubble of stability in a sea of turmoil- without need for governments, lords, taxes, etc in order prosper.Â
So why then, is the entire Two Rivers so ready to get on board with Lord Perrin Goldeneyes, the House of Aybara, and the whole feudal system when theyâve been doing perfectly well without and have a (fairly justified) pretty negative view of the practice over all? Well, the answer to that lays in two different bits of wisdom, from two very different men-
(The Dragon Reborn, Prologue: Fortress of the Light. Emphasis mine.)
(Lord of Chaos, Chapter 46: Beyond the Gate. Emphasis mine)
These two quotes represent two radically different ways to understand what's happening in the Two Rivers based on if you subscribe to a more cynical world view (like Niall does) or a more idealistic one (like Bashere does). Itâs no mistake they come at either end of the âPerrin becomes Lord of the Two Riversâ arc- the first right at the beginning when Niall decides to send soldiers into the Two Rivers, the second after the matter is settled and a united Two Rivers has elevated Perrin to become their new Lord, and Perrin is being forced to reckon with that fact.
Both quotes amount to the same principle idea: in times of chaos and uncertainty someone must step forward and do what either no one else can or will in order to protect the broader community. Niallâs cynicism on the matter reflects his broader loss of faith in the Light and the ideals the Children are meant to uphold- which itself is a reflection of the broader hypocrisy and corruption of the Children. For Niall the matter is simple: people are willing to hand over power to others in times of crisis, and can thereafter be kept in bonds by simple inertia. The Children have long since mastered the art of exploiting this with a well practiced playbook of inventing crisis, playing on peopleâs fears and insecurities, and turning communities against each other to keep them weak.
 Niallâs ambitions to unite the Westlands and spread the influence of the Children of the Light are just the scaled up version of those same tactics. It is driven by simple pragmatism, not out of sincere belief in any sort of higher ideal. This scene is dedicated to showing that: Niall canât imagine a world beyond his entrenched views. Heâs âalready worked outâ how the Last Battle will go: Trollocs spilling out of the Blight with maybe some Dreadlords tossed into the mix. He dosenât think the Forsaken will escape, the Dark One will touch the world, or that the Dragon will be reborn, which conveniently are all facts that would conflict with his ambitions. Those ambitions are also what he is willing to engage in treason and blasphemy against his own code to see fulfilled by ensuring Rand lives long enough (and is a terrible enough threat) that the nations will be desperate for Niall to take charge. The world is simple to Niall: there is power, there are those who have it, and those who are those subject to it- nothing more or less.
For Bashere however the matter is more complex. At the root of every noble house, he insists, is a âcommoner that showed uncommon courageâ and did either what was necessary or what no one else could do in a time of crisis, then entrusted that duty to their descendants. Leadership and nobility are not things that can be engineered or manipulated into existence as far as Bashere is concerned- rather they arise from the confluence of chance, competence, and character. He is not starry eyed or even romantic about it, and he even takes a swipe at the idea of âdivine right to ruleâ (popular in our world, scorned in its various sporadic appearances in Randland). Rather his argument is that nobility is not a right but a duty, handed down from a Lord (or Lady) to their heirs and descendants. He never goes as far as to say it is always the failure to uphold that duty that brings down a noble house- just as with people noble Houses can die out for all sorts of reasons- but rather that nobility as a whole is about upholding an ideal, striving for something more. Itâs when people lose faith and belief in a noble that they become no different from anyone else.
When Perrin arrives in the Two Rivers, the people are faced with many problems their extant systems can not handle. The most immediate is the Trolloc raids for which the Two Rivers have no defense and (importantly) which the factors that had previously insulated them from world troubles have instead left them uniquely vulnerable. They are too isolated to call for aid and lacking in any sort of region-wide power structure that can organize a defense. This is Niallâs so-called âlion in the streetâ and The Whitecloaks, under Dain, attempt to step into this vacuum only to find their usual tactics are ineffective. Thatâs because those tactics are all about dividing a community and engineering a crisis, not about dealing with an ongoing one and providing a sense of stability. Like Niall, the Whitelcoaks are cynically interested in asserting control, not in genuinely protecting the community they have occupied. As a result despite a newfound unity the Two Rivers resists Whitecloaksâ efforts to entrench and take over.
Enter Perrin who shows Bashereâs âuncommon courageâ by rescuing the Whitecloak prisoners, waging a counter guerilla war against the Trollocs, and organizing a common defense against both the Shadow and the Whitecloaks. In doing these things he becomes the rallying point of the new unity. Perrinâs perception of himself as a âsimple blacksmithâ often hides or leads to him downplaying his own heroics: he views the things he does as simple âgood senseâ and frequently canât understand why others havenât done them already, which is revealing in a lot of ways. Perrin not only takes his own bravery and intellect for granted, he assumes they are universal: that everyone in the Two Rivers is as capable as he is. He canât comprehend why someone would want to follow or to trade personal freedom in exchange for the certainty that comes with fealty to a lord or lady, especially not a people as fiercely independent and stubborn as those of the Two Rivers.
But from the perspective of the Two Rivers folk, the trade isnât just easy at this point, itâs necessary. Their isolation and detachment from the affairs of the world has been broken and the system that Perrin still holds so much faith in (councils of village elders and a handful of local leaders) has proved largely unable to deal with the world, while the Whitecloak occupation has made clear that they have the choice of adopting a new system on their own terms, or having one enforced on them on the terms of outsiders. The choice to elevate Perrin to their Lord is as much an assertion of their independence as their refusal to bend to the Whitecloaks.
But while that independence is a hard fought victory when we are zoomed in to the Two Rivers, when we zoom out to other points of view, the story is very different.
The Andoran State, rebellion, and the view of the Crown
Morgase (and later Elayne) catch a lot of flack for their harsh position on Two Rivers independence. Even fans who otherwise like Elayne often disavow her hard stance against the House of Aybara, or else claim itâs out of character. But not only is it in character, itâs a completely reasonable reaction to have.
Because itâs not just the Two Riverâs independence thatâs at stake. Rebellion spreads, and a flagrant challenge to the authority of the Andoran crown can not be ignored. Morgase says it herself: âBut rebellion unchecked even in a part of her realm she ruled only on a map could spread like wildfire to places that were hers in fact.â (The Fires of Heaven, Chapter 19: Memories).Â
Andor is among the most stable countries that appears in the series, but that stability is still tenuous and it is not without bad actors and internal conflicts, and it has a surfeit of external enemies even before you take the Shadow into account. Internally, nobles like Armilla Marne, Elenia Serand, and Naean Arawn are already causing trouble and looking for cracks to Trakandâs power, while externally the Whitecloaks spend most of Eye of the World trying to use peopleâs prejudices and fears to stir up a revolt against Morgase, ultimately resulting in bloody riots that then provides the pretense for Rahvin to sneak into the court and win Morgaseâs favor- teeing up his takeover and the following the Succession War.
And then you have to take into account the fact that the Two Rivers justifies their independence with the legacy Manatherean, which consisted of a swath of land that is far more than just the Two Rivers or even Western Andor and included parts of Gheledan, Amadicia and Tarabon. Failure to take a hard stance against the House of Aybara would invite invasion from those similarly threatened territories, on top of running the risk of being off from the mineral trade, which as noted earlier is a key element of Andorâs economic stability.
This means that Elayne has two options: she can crush the rebellion with overwhelming force and bring the Two Rivers back into line, or she can try and vassalize Perrin and bring him into the fold of the Andoran peerage. Anything else would be courting disaster: even a negotiated settlement would be seen as a concession to an upstart, and encourage more challenges to her authority, especially since she is a new Queen who took power on shaky grounds and in the shadow of Rahvinâs near ruination of Andor. That means that there is simply no route to the Two Riverâs independence that doesn't involve strife. Even if Perrin could win a war against Elayne it would belong, bloody, and costly.Â
This conflict is indicative of Jordanâs two core strengths as a writer. First is his ability to explore varied PoVs in meaningful ways, directing our sympathy to two different protagonists with mutually exclusive end goals. Second is modeling the nuances and complexities of real world politics in ways that feel genuine: frustrating and messy, yet complex and genuine at the same time.Â
Perrin and Elayne are both characters whom we have been invited to care about very deeply: protagonists and heroes who we have watched struggle and grow into very capable leaders. Yet because the political reality and world they inhabit is has so much depth they are placed into conflict with each other. Thatâs an uncomfortable place for the audience to: our urge is human is to simplify and flatten, to boil it down to someone being in the right and in the wrong, but that discomfort is also the point. The world is complicated and nothing is ever straight forward as it seems could be the subtitle to the whole series.
The trap of simplifying the world is one Sanderson falls into frequently, but to his credit the resolution to this particular conflict is passable. While he does give Elayne a more hostile characterization in the actual scene than I think is fair (given she has well established âbusiness is businessâ attitude when it comes to affairs of state and no personal beef with Perrin) he also treats both her concerns and Perrinâs as valid, and recognizes the impossibility of fully reconciling them. The compromise they reach is essentially vassalization with limited autonomy, and a marriage alliance to seal the deal. The Two Rivers days of going their own way and living tax and law free are over, but they will have a say in their own governance, and the noble house of their own culture and community.Â
Itâs what neither wants, but itâs the best that can be hoped for without shedding blood, and so a fair compromise. It also shows how far they both have come as leader and rulers, and serves as an excellent capstone to Perrinâs arc, because without accepting and embracing lordship, he never would have been able to get the settlement he does.
Conclusion: Escapism through realism
A lot of writing in the fantasy genre is ultimately power fantasy, and thatâs not (to be clear) a bad thing. Escapism is baked into the DNA of the genre, all the way back to Tolkien who famously said âFantasy is escapist, and that is its glory. If a soldier is imprisoned by the enemy, don't we consider it his duty to escape?â, and for a lot of people the there is a very appealing kind of escapism in watching some relatable everyman type tear through issues like tissue paper.Â
But I think a lot of the reason feudalism in particular gets flattened and simplified in the genre as a result is because engaging with it more seriously asks uncomfortable questions of the reader that weaken that power fantasy element. Regardless of which side you fall on in the âkings are awesomeâ vs âkings suckâ debate, a deeper and more complex exploration of the strengths and weaknesses of the feudal system is going to annoy you, since it must by necessity reject both premises.
Perrinâs arc is a really good exploration of the ways in which Wheel of Time is in conversation with those sorts of power fantasy tropes. At a comfortable remove it seems like simple power fantasy: man returns to his home town to find it under siege from terrible enemies, and in the process of fending them off everyone realizes how awesome and kick ass he is and decides to elevate him as their leader. And yet (as many people have complained about) Perrin spends most of his arc resisting his en-lordifying, and pushing back on this responsibility being laid on him. This is another space of discomfort for the reader, since his protracted resistance calls on the reader to question why they want him to accept this kind of power and status. Â
Statistically, most of the readership lives in a democracy and so why does it frustrate us so much that Perrinâs, well founded misgivings about becoming an aristocrat hold up under such intense pressure? Well because Perrin is capable. He proves it again and again throughout the story and within his world, he more then fit to the role he is being pressed into, so his resistance dosenât read as principle, it reads as self-sabotage. At the root of Perrinâs refusal is a conflict between the responsibility he is being asked to take up and the vision of himself he holds onto.Â
That conflict only works because Jordanâs world is built so well, the responsibility can have stakes and meaning. In many ways it all goes right back to that first except for The Great Hunt: kingdoms die, leaders fail, people fail. Everything from the population decline, to its impacts on the stability of the feudal system, to the complex snarl of Andoran politics, deepens the world and as result depends the characterâs relationship to it, and each other. We know Perrinâs dithering could have catastrophic consequences, because we trust in the word to reflect those consequences- and that makes his struggle to rise to his task more frustrating, and in the same stroke, his eventual accepting satisfying in a way it wouldn't be if this were a tissue paper world.
Yes it hinders the ability of the story to provide escapism in the terms of simple power fantasy, but it provides a different kind of escapism as a result: one where we can see the problems of our own world and lives reflected back at us not as paper cut outs to be shredded but as complex multifaceted problems that can be solved. Because the more real the problems feel, the more powerful genuine victory over them feels as a result, and the more empowered the audience is to go back into the real world and work to better it.
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I can't believe Brandon Sanderson dared to make me care about another character after 12 books⌠If Rodel Ituralde dies, I will be so sad.
Also, I love how Rand sometimes decide that subjugating allies by force would be too long so he just walks into their camps alone while radiating ta'veren energy and scoops them up.
One thing that will always amuse me is the fact that the characters supposedly wear silk all the time despite the fact that it can only be produced in Shara and :
1. The Cairhienen can't go there to trade since they lost their bestie privileges with the Aiel two decades ago.
2. The Atha'an Miere can't possibly fill the supply gap on their own.
Market prices for silk must have skyrocketed, and these idiots are still wrapping themselves in it to fight. The devotion to fashion over brain is praise worthy really.