I know a lot of folks were upset by new vegas's decline in the show, but personally I liked it. The idea that societies need to fight the wasteland/the past constantly even to exist at all is a fascinatingly cool idea. Progress is not linear, and societies come and go. This would have been true pre-war, as those societies destroyed themselves, but it's even more so for any sort of civilization established post war. The sins of the past are constantly pulling at those in the present in the form of radiation, dangerous technology, and yes probably poisonous materials like lead and asbestos, and the fact that the societies of the wasteland aren't safe from backsliding or collapse is really cool, not to mention already established even before the show. We saw it with the Divide and the tribes in honest hearts. The main conflict of New Vegas itself is about two highly developed new world societies attempting to destroy each other, which is a parallel to the great war. We see it in the legion's nature of conflict which both allowed it to reach new heights but is inherently unsustainable, we see it in the NCR being crippled by a pre-war weapon, and we see it in the brotherhood of steel collapsing into civil war. So, to me, seeing even the relatively developed juggernaut city of New Vegas be dragged back into stone age psycho status feels very cool and in line with fallout, though I personally would have liked to see a new conflict, rather than a re-hash of ncr vs legion.
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I do appreciate the asks and the thoughts because I also get to yap about this stuff!
So I'll admit off rip my preferred way to think of the Fallout *universe* is probably at odds with the core themes of Fallout, which are similar to what you described. Repeating the sins of the Old World, life being brutal if not impossible, War Never Changes and all that. In my opinion though, this is clearly not how humans as a species really work... not the repeating sins of the past thing (we do that every damn day) but specifically in regard to invention. IE) making life *easier* by inventing or reinventing technology or by grouping together.
This is the primary thing I take umbridge with in Fallout as a property. And again to reiterate, I know this is against the primary theme of games, I'm just saying I don't agree with it and prefer to hear headcanons to the contrary.
Now about New Vegas specifically... the issue I have with the show is the questionable, quick and sloppy decline of the area. We don't know how the second battle of hoover dam went and sometime shortly after Shady Sands is nuked and the whole region is set back to square 0.
Frankly I think the show should just not have gone to New Vegas at all lol. They clearly want a lawless wild west but also wanted to i guess appeal to people's nostalgia. And I think by doing this we got the worst of both.
And I guess Fallout has benefited from not returning often to the areas of previous games, and if they did, as in the case of Shady Sands at least, there was growth there. Its like if instead Lucy and Cooper took a Zeppelin to the Capital Wasteland and everything about Project Purity had been unceremoniously eradicated. Maybe there could be a reasonable explanation and maybe it fits with the themes you outlined, but I personally find it frustrating! Its an unsatisfying narrative. "No one knows who won the dam + who cares + get nuked".
"War Never Changes" shouldn't mean literally we just keep nuking everyone back to the stone age. The fall of the Mojave to total barbarism in such a short time is crazy imo.
Honestly the more I think about it, the more I'm sure in my opinion that the show simply should not have gone to New Vegas. Or if they insisted on it, that they just pick a damn ending. Or should I say. A "DAM" ending.
