Hello, just wanted to point out that Vincent BenĆtez was so funny for choosing the name Innocent, the one pope name that is the closest sound wise to his original name āļø
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Hello, just wanted to point out that Vincent BenĆtez was so funny for choosing the name Innocent, the one pope name that is the closest sound wise to his original name āļø

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When Vincent said accepto he wasn't accepting the papacy
He was accepting Thomas Cardinal Lawrence's hand in marriage
I like them
Forget about torturing your blorbos, putting them through the wringer. I'm putting my blorbo in perfectly ordinary, pleasant situations. Their tortured personality will cause them anguish anyway, making an absolutely mundane scene into the most dramatic, agony filled affair as though the world is ending and it's all their fault
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Like father, like daughter.
Been in the angst trenches for too long so I shall allow them a bit more romance as a treatš
when he's a snack but you're Catholic and have an eating disorder so you just stare at him longingly and feel guilty for wanting him
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The Ashtray ā Queer-coding and Intimacy Subtext between Aldo Bellini and Giulio Sabbadin
an analysis of the ashtray in Bellini's suite, the chess match in progress, shot compositions and adding my interpretation that Robert Harris uses queer-coded phrasing to imply an intimate connection between them beyond what we see on the surface.
Grab your tinfoil zucchetti. But not really. Jokes aside, I donāt want to āproveā anything, just to point out the potential significance of this and how it relates to the two characters in question. This is based on Robert Harris' phrasings in his book, classic queer-coding in literature, the long-lasting history of gay men in the Catholic church and shot composition analysis. My credentials are a summer course on film at NYU, former member of the chess club at school and being gay with an autistic brain.
This post was what made me notice the ashtray, credit to OP for pointing it out. I thought it was a cool detail. When editing a random clip, I noticed how the ashtray is then revealed to us in this scene. This is the first shot from the angle where we see Bellini sitting next to the chessboard and you can see Thomas is covering the rest of the table:
It is only when Thomas moves that we see the ashtray:
[this covering/uncovering technique is also seen when they all turn to look at Agnes in the cafeteria and Tedesco is blocking BenĆtez sitting in the back until he walks and we can see him]
We then get another angle of Bellini and the table and this shot includes the chair on the other side of the table that we also couldnāt see in the first shot:
Talking to my tiktok pal @tomwambsgansdarkglasses about this, I took a closer look at the chessboard and wondered: Did Bellini memorise and preserve the last chess match against his friend the late pope, keeping it there as a reminder? Has Bellini been playing chess against himself during the conclave? Why is the ashtray there and what does it represent? Does the chessboard represent the late pope/the papacy/Belliniās inner turmoil? The table features quite a lot in this sequence (covered, uncovered, stared at by Bellini at one point, next to him in the wider shot and blurred in the end). Hereās a clip:
I. The chess match
I returned to the first scene where we see the last match against the late pope and I donāt think this is the same match preserved. Thereās enough to assume this is a different match. Different pieces have been taken. Not to mention how impractical it would be to preserve the last match and take it with him for the conclave. Considering what Bellini says to Lawrence in the beginning, we can also assume the late pope was winning, playing with the white pieces and Bellini playing with the black pieces.
II. Is Bellini playing against himself?
Itās not uncommon for chess aficionados to play against themselves so that was my first assumption. Of course the ashtray may be just a meaningless addition by the set design, same as the extra chair and he was playing both sides. But if we assume the ashtray was put there for a reason, taking into account the table features in nearly every shot of the entire sequence, thereās a chance the implication is that he isnāt playing against himself. Another thing my pal pointed out was: Why would he be placing the pieces taken differently, some organised, the others dropped? And more, wouldnāt it be more practical to be placing the taken pieces on the side so he doesnāt have to reach for the other side of the table? Wouldnāt it be easier to remove the ashtray to get more space? The chessboard has already been introduced to us as an accessory associated with Belliniās chess interest/his grief/friendship with the late pope/papacy. The chessboard could be on the table by itself and it would make no difference. Thereās no need for the chair on the other side too. We can see this is a suite and a bigger room than Lawrenceās through other elements in this sequence. Why the ashtray?
III. The ashtray
Around 10 minutes before this scene takes place, we see Bellini, Lawrence and Sabbadin in the stairwells, where we see Sabbadin smoking. This is his fourth scene (auditorium, bus, breakfast, stairwells) and the first in which heās smoking. So far weād seen Bellini and Sabbadin often side by side and surrounded by others but never in an intimate setting just the two of them. To me this can be interpreted as a glimpse into all that we havenāt seen, those two characters being closer than what we had previously seen. Thereās an ongoing match happening, perhaps started when the conclave began, perhaps because Bellini relaxes through playing. Where did they go after the auditorium? Where were they before knocking on Lawrenceās door before the stairwells? If theyāve been playing chess since the conclave began, they might have been in each otherās company, just the two of them, every night in Belliniās suite. Thereās intimacy in that. While we see itās common for the cardinals to be visiting each other in their rooms for canvassing or socialising, this is a level beyond that once you consider Belliniās queer-coding and the subtle implication of intimacy this brings, using their dynamic in the book as foundation. In a story about the Catholic church, widely known for having a gay subculture and being a common destination for gay men, it seems like an oversight not to make a single nod to homosexuality and queer-coding, in my view. This piece of visual subtext seems to mirror the queer-coded phrasing chosen by Robert Harris in the book to describe their dynamic and the characters, which weāll revisit soon.
Moreover, if heās been playing against Sabbadin, heās playing with the white pieces and winning. Sabbadin, sitting on the side of the ashtray, is playing with the black pieces (emo āundertakerā core). Belliniās taken pieces are all organised on his side. The few white pieces taken arenāt equally organised, some are dropped near the ashtray.
If the chessboard represents Belliniās inner turmoil, the late pope, the papacy, the grief, wanting and not wanting, the ashtray represents Sabbadin and his intimate connection to the man himself and the papacy, since he has an interest in becoming Secretary of State in a potential Bellini papacy. The chessboard and the ashtray, side by side. The potential relationship between the two as an added factor in understanding both characters. When Bellini looks at the table, frustrated and not knowing what to do about the simony discovery and what this will mean for the election, he looks at the chessboard and the ashtray. Sabbadinās point of view is one he has been taking into account throughout the entire narrative and stands next to his inner turmoil and his grief. We had seen that proximity but here we see a potential glimpse into exactly how close their relationship has been through some visual subtext of queerness and intimacy. Watching the film after having read the book, it seems like a visual way of adapting dialogue and descriptions from the book that didnāt make into the movie.
ā Further queer-coding in the book (or why I interpret them as being together, in the book at least and donāt think thatās any reach)
I had pointed out before the moments between them in the book are more personal than professional. I like this one where Bellini snaps and brings up his father + first name:
And my favourite being the line that shows not only that Sabbadin has been to Belliniās suite but also that he chooses to point this out to Lomeli when there was no reason to do so and he could have simply said āI have a suiteā or āsome of us have suitesā:
The book also brings the information Bellini had been Archbishop of Milan before him and of course Sabbadin is introduced in the book as Belliniās praetorian guard, which, again, is very unique wording:
And Harris doubles down on the description by making Lomeli say in the next page:
In conclusion, I just find this all very interesting and my intention is to explore this visual detail in the cinematography with my interpretation of the queer-coding of Bellini/Sabbadin as a couple in Harrisā book. Thanks to OP for pointing out the ashtray in the first place, thanks to @ tomwambsgansdarkglasses for going through this with me at 1am last night.
PS: If you think my tinfoil zucchetto is too big already, just wait till you find out that I went to sleep trying to discover what that blue led display in the right corner of the shot/on the other table in his suite is. A minibar/electric kettle/coffee maker that each cardinal has in their suites? Iāve checked the tutorial of Tremblayās coffee machine and that one seems only his own. Iām trying to find the exact match. This is my idea of fun.
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#lawrellinitezweek2025 day 9: escape au
It took Vincent quite a while to realize he's completely done with the Vatican
(same au there lawrellini left the vatican and married each other, and vincent resigned several years later)
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