his swagless mental breakdowns this, his homoerotic patterns of grief that. what about HER grief-stricken moments of extremely poor decisionmaking? what about HER incredibly alarming isolation and trauma-driven life choices?!?!?!
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his swagless mental breakdowns this, his homoerotic patterns of grief that. what about HER grief-stricken moments of extremely poor decisionmaking? what about HER incredibly alarming isolation and trauma-driven life choices?!?!?!

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Veth not being visibly pregnant could mean she aborted that thing 😁
I am not against the character concept in a game where killing people often and in terrible ways is built into the very core of it but I struggle to be sympathetic when I've watched a guy relish in the suffering and deaths of people he's deemed bad enough to deserve it pout about how someone who decided he was irredeemably evil treated him cruelly.
guy who has to be awake at 5 am next week for a major day long event voice: i got plany of time to fix my sleep schedule
"Girl to you girl" likely thing for sam to say to matt. during pride month even.

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sorry who gives a fuck about pumat enough for him to have a story before yeza and luc
I hate that I think he's so attractive like it gets sooo distracting when he's all fucking dolled up and shit and he has to have that fuckass wig on he looks insanely good with long hair it's stupid it's so stupid I don't like middle aged voice actors for real I don't
I would bet actual money that veth is going to tell caleb he's the father of her child to try to snap him out of his possession and I can't even see it happen in person
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Like the reason people keep saying she's his mom over and over is kinda obvious. Evoke the imagery of a predatory older woman taking advantage of a younger man she has great power over often enough that it is the type of relationship that comes to mind when people discuss any romantic and sexual desire between the characters so that those interested will be so thoroughly shamed they decide it's not worth talking about anymore and people new to the conversation can be swayed by disgust alone. I truly think it doesn't matter to the majority of people that veth being caleb's mom is not meaningfully supported by the canon, just that saying so makes people feel bad and makes discussing aspects of a relationship they don't like much harder. They don't even have to prove that it's actually comparable to incestuous abuse in any way, enough people will see it as one side condemning incest and the other writing an essay presumably defending and justifying it because the average person doesn't gaf about veth's character enough to read more than a paragraph about her motivations and desires in the first place.

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You know the way some people justify never liking female characters by saying that there simply aren't female characters that are developed enough to care about. I feel like there's definitely a genre of veth hate that's like
There's no need reason to be interested in veth when sam himself obviously isn't, she's just a misogynistic joke character right? Because sam only really cares about her relationships with caleb, yeza, and luc, all her other relationships should be seen as little more than a series of extended bits with no depth to them, because sam doesn't about them. Because she's a slut i mean male obsessed she was always flirting with some man and she's only attracted to caleb because sam can't imagine a woman not being attracted to a man. She thinks she's a bad person for going on adventures because sam's a misogynist and she's right to think that way because she's a bad mother and wife and friend and woman in general because sam's a misogynist. She should've been retired the moment she reunited with yeza and luc (a thing we know she has no nuanced feelings about because sam's a misogynist) so we could be freed from this hateful caricature character with no depth.
caleb bowing out of that conversation because he and yeza were both about to say "she picks things up very fast" is soooo funny. he's literally just veth's husband in a different font
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nooo this is so juicy, seeing yeza distrust the kryn makes complete sense, but for him to thoughtlessly agree with veth that the people here are monsters when they look more like her than him is insane, especially with this follow up:
i talk about veth projecting onto caleb a lot, but tbh he does it to her, too, and it's very funny like
veth: why did i jump at the chance to go adventuring with you when i just got reunited with my husband? does that make me a bad person?
caleb: no. well, you can't think of it like that. look at the big picture. you are following a path to make your home, our home, the empire, safe again. and so we are doing favors to the dynasty to pursue that goal
veth, who has never given a damn about the empire in her life: ?????
WIP Tag from @thetangledsheet! no pressure tagging @undead-knick-knack, @ariadne-mouse, @charliecornwalls and anyone else who just want to post a wip snippet of their own.
from my wip about veth going back to felderwin:
“I know I’m not the most assertive person in the world," Yeza said. "And I know…I know that I prefer it when Veth gets her way. But I can’t let her go there alone, even if that’s what she wants. I just can’t. So I’m asking you for a favor, and that favor is to take care of her when I can’t. Is that okay? Can you do that?” Yeza was asking, almost begging, but there was a steeliness in his eyes that dared Caleb to deny the request. Honestly, Caleb had to admire the strength it took to ask a favor like this, from him of all people. To admit you could not do something for someone you loved was a terrible thing—to know that someone else could was infinitely worse. The longer Caleb looked at Yeza, brave and kind and loving, the more he felt shame pool in his stomach. It did not happen so frequently these days, though there had been a time when he lived in that shame, breathed it, sweated it, bathed in it every second of the day. It had eased over the years, but crept back often on the occasions when he and Yeza spoke. It was uncomfortable for them both, he thought, to look at a man that might have been you in another life. Caleb had never quite shaken the guilt of that. Caleb averted his gaze, acquiescing to his shame like letting an old friend in to stay. “Ja,” he said simply, speaking to the stone beneath their feet. “I can do that.”

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Out of ladies of C4 with whom do you think Veth would get along the most?
I feel like the obvious pull here is Tyranny on account of her chaotic, jester-like nature that would feel reminiscent of the Best Detectives dynamic, but I'm not going to go with the obvious pull. I think Veth would lowkey be obsessed with Thaisha. She saw Keyleth's antlers one time and thought they were so cool she added antlers to her own winter clothes as a homage--imagine how fucking gagged she'd be if she saw Thaisha's metal spine? Thaisha's clever and sharp and funny, understands what it means to be a mother and an adventurer on a level nobody else can, is unbelievably cool as fuck and also like. super hot. I think Veth would be like "I have such a fat friend-crush on her, I need to be her friend if it's the last thing I do" and I also think that would be her way of covering up that she actually has a massive romantic crush on her, too. I am picking Thaisha. Veth would fucking love Thaisha.
just a casual 20yr age gap, 3ft height gap, sapphic, teen mom 4 teen mom adventurer dynamic. i'm sure the idea of it won't haunt me at all