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You’re an ableist jerk who’s only argument is accusing those who have pointed out how ignorant you are of lying.

It’s pathetic but I wouldn’t expect more from a transmed.

I’ll explain to you once bruh.

How you can prove a diagnosis is simple:

Explain your diagnosis. Nobody gets just one diagnosis of “oh it’s X here you go”. They give you a comprehensive examination.

Explain your process of getting diagnosed and by who.

How did they test you? How old were you at diagnosis? Paper tests? IQ tests? Self report? Was it recorded? Did they just sit down and talk to you? Observation at home? Multiple tests? What tests? Other tests I won’t describe because then it’d be too easy to just make up a story from there.

You’re still asking for highly personal information and it’s frankly rather creepy

If you really want to know I’ll share privately but I’m not going to detail the process here

(And yeah I don’t believe you’ve been through the diagnostic process. Unless you can prove that you’re clearly lying. You don’t know anything about it, @transmedtedtalk. You sound like you read a paragraph about it once)

Final note: don’t call me “man” or bruh even casually

I’m not comfortable with gendered terms from people I don’t trust or like.

Also since I needed to clarify. I didn’t mean the name of who diagnosed you 🙄. I mean like therapist? Psychiatrist? Doctor? Psychologist? Your mom?

Lmao people get mad when you don’t bend to their need for attention. I got shit I think might be wrong with me but I’m not going around flaunting it and claiming to have it because I’m not diagnosed and I’m not going to put myself with people that are because if I’m wrong, then I’m misrepresenting that disorder or diagnosis. But these are kids messing around online because they want to feel special. They know it isn’t real and they wouldn’t tell their parents they need help with it, that would be stupid.

(I already responded to the garbage elsewhere in this reply but that misinformation caught my attention)

Say that, for some reason, California suddenly had an uptick in cancer diagnosis. You decide to research why.

You come across an academic study with a large participant pool. The point of the study is to figure out why so many Californians have cancer. In the opening abstract, the researcher acknowledges A) that there are people from other states with cancer; and B) there are still Californians who DONT have cancer. They were not included in this study because the researcher wanted to focus specifically on Californians with cancer.

The researcher runs their tests. They come to the conclusion that the Californians they tested have cancer for XYZ reasons.

You personally come to the conclusion that all Californians have cancer, based off your interpretations of the results.

The subject of research I put in the analogy doesnt matter. It could be literally anything, not just cancer. The point still stands that Transmeds are doing exactly what I described, and it's evident in all their "sources" being "they studied trans people with dysphoria, therefore all trans people have dysphoria!" When that isn't that the source was researching, nor is it the conclusion the source came to. Transmeds are cherry-picking data from actual research, which has to be the least scientific method ever--so it's laughable that y'all claim to be backed by science.

A study investigates people with condition A and condition B.

The study does not investigate (A∧¬B) people or (¬A∧B) people.

The study finds evidence that (A∧B) is associated with condition C.

Transmeds conclude all people with condition A have condition B.

In the analogy above, A = Californian and B = has cancer. In transmed arguments with so many studies, A = trans, B = has Gender Dysphoria, and (e.g.) C = some neurological trait.

“Making a statement about something through something else and claiming that the logic holds” is literally what analogies are.

Ooh just had to unblock me huh couldn’t resist? @terflies

Transsexualism is absolutely still a clinical term wtf?? Why else would it be mentioned in the tucute Bible (the DSM5). It’s a completely different concept and separate from transgender by its very definition. Are you going off it’s prevalence in the media? Because of course they’re going to avoid the word with sex in it. Transgender sounds nicer to people but it’s an umbrella term for a lot of different people and that matters when discussing discourse, my pony loving pal. Last I checked you absolutely have no place in the field of psychology so I’d love to know where you’re getting that information.

Also yeah the causation isn’t exact but the non-religious theories are strictly medical for transsexuals. If you’re getting transgender people in the mix, results will be skewed because some people who fall under the transgender umbrella are strictly crossdressers, gnc, fetishists, non-binary presenting, etc. which would include a psychological and emotional aspect that isn’t necessarily included in transsexualism. There needs to be a separation between people with inherent and medical need for transition and people who experience life outside a binary because they choose to for the most part. How tf people going to study why people feel the compulsion to medically transition if you are studying something that is not inherently medical. If you actually look, most studies are pretty specific about their use of terms and do make a distinction. It’s only a quick google search away “difference between transgender and transsexual” or some variation. Not that hard.

The word ‘transsexualism’ is used twice in the DSM-V, concerning concordance in twins (we’ll come back to that later), but not defined:

‘Transsexual’ is defined:

and ‘transsexualism’ was last medically defined in the ICD-10. This definition was consistent with the DSM-V’s definition of ‘transsexual’, however, not your definition of ‘transsexualism’:

That trans people who do medically transition are fundamentally or aetiologically distinct from trans people who don’t is not supported by evidence, and only the desire to medically transition is significant in medicine (which generally recognises that those without are still trans—still ‘transsexual’, even!).

Of course there is value in distinguishing people who can benefit from medical transitioning—that’s what the diagnosis or Gender Dysphoria is for!—but it’s simply a lie to say that who they must be distinguished from is cross-dressers, people who don’t conform to gender norms, and fetishists. Even the “Tucute Bible”, as you put it, does not define ‘transgender’ that way, and specifically excludes these in differential diagnosis of Gender Dysphoria.

(You realise that this is not an honest way to engage with literature you disagree with, right?)

If you do Google “difference between transgender and transsexual” you will quickly find that there is no single definition for either, and hence no single difference. And while studies ought to be specific some are not, and even in those that are specific you should take care: many compare trans people with dysphoria to cis people, and so can’t be used to compare trans people with dysphoria to those without. Returning to my earlier point, “not inherently medical” doesn’t necessitate a fundamental or aetiological distinction within trans people.

Speaking of which, that some studies “generally point in the same direction” does not constitute a scientific fact. Abnormal brain development due to in utero hormones may be why trans people are trans but it is not known. It isn’t a disservice to recognise this but the way science works, especially with something that is very difficult to study directly. There are many possible contributing (or confounding) factors, such as genetic factors that the DSM-V notes there is some evidence for. At the very least, more study (and more evidence) is needed.

You can pretend being outside the medical community disqualifies me if you like, but your arguments demonstrate a fundamental lack of scientific literacy.

So short version:

You only highlighted the first bit of that definition which is dumb when you showed the whole thing so here’s the ICD-10 that you supposedly give similar value:

Emphasis on living and being accepted as a member of the opposite sex as opposed to transgender that just mentions perceived gender being inconsistent with assigned gender which is purposely broad. Altering physical aspects is nearly always necessary to achieve acceptance as the other sex (whether you like that or not). Some trans guys especially are lucky with a small chest and fairly masculine traits, that doesn’t change their insistence on being perceived as a man so of course they may not require some medical treatments.

Also you’ll notice that the definition importantly includes the word “transiently”. It’s right there before your botched highlighting job:

Transiently identifying with a gender other than their natal gender absolutely can include crossdressers and the sort. The differential diagnosis you mentioned is for gender dysphoria, not transgenderism. Differential diagnosis is not an absolute in terms of ruling out the possibility of gender dysphoria. Being that the DSM is for clinicians, it is meant to point out to clinicians what to look out for when looking at possible other explanations for the perceived experience. Of course schizophrenia or BPD for example don’t rule out gender dysphoria entirely, but if you didn’t look into those disorders, you may end up with a misdiagnosis. Again, that book is for clinicians and those in the position to diagnose people. Which are also the people typically guiding treatment. Another reason to get the right cause of the gender dysphoria as to not give the ok for hormones to a person who may be having a psychotic episode.

Just going to put this here again:

So you’ve actually elaborated on the etiology rather than just saying it’s “not known”. At least stand by your statements. But you really enjoy making just vague enough statements, provoking a response, then taking that and elaborating in a direction that you could feasibly say you meant in the first place. Arguing the meaning of “known” tho? Hmmm.

I’m still not finding where you’re seeing that a desire to be accepted and live (permanent) as a member of the opposite sex would not necessarily include the desire to medically transition if need be. Unless you’re including those who don’t need to. I mean I know a lot of guys who had passing natural chests but that’s not really speaking to the desire. Also even those who don’t have dysphoria and transition would still have a “desire” to do so. Lacking desire to transition and still be trans? That’s a whole new level of tucute. That would even defy the euphoria argument. But I mean that would be “transgender” I suppose. Because you’re not going to permanently pass if you don’t physically make changes. Even binding is some kind of physical step to pass. The thought of someone who solely came out as a transsexual (of the opposite sex) and made no change whatsoever? That’s where I draw the line at trender.

Because transgender is a diverse and fluid community, it is absolutely different medically than transsexualism. Some transsexuals may identify as transgender, and that’s fine, it’s an umbrella term. But people with the intrinsic and disabling desire to live as the opposite sex which does mean altering yourself of you need to, are linked to genetic and other biological factors. You’re obviously somewhat aware of some of that evidence, so I think you’re just doing that vague statement thing again there with “no evidence”.

With transgender people as a whole, there is a very wide variety of causes and factors at play, that are not present with transsexuals. All transsexuals can be transgender (if that’s how they identify) but not all transgender people can be transsexuals. They’re different.

I don’t even know, man. It’s just so fucking stupid dafj;al;fl;sdl;. Fuck tucutes, fuck transmeds - let’s just support science without needing a label or a community for it ‘cause clearly that’s just asking for dumbasses to ruin it.

this ain’t just about you m8, calm down. If cis people are getting gender dysphoria yet not needing to transition, 1) what makes them different from trans people and 2) how is this not an argument TERFs have been using to prove gender dysphorics don’t actually need transition really?

Gender dysphoria is a very broad description of a number of emotional and physical distress. There really should be 3 or more different types of dysphoria but we are working with one definition for the time being. There are no criteria based on causation for gender dysphoria, only symptoms.

First, transsexualism (the people who medically transition) is intrinsic and caused by a medical anomaly. Similar to how a lot of intersex disorders form, fetal hormones influence the brain typical for the opposite sex while the brain is going through important development. At some point, the wrong signals are sent out and the structures of the brain develop in a way that it was not supposed to. (Of course it’s more complex than that but not my point atm).

If your brain develops normally, you will not have the same experience as someone who is transsexual. But some forms of trauma can cause people distress about their gender or sex in ways that can be similar to transsexuals.

I’m sure you’re familiar with this list of criteria for gender dysphoria. It’s important at this point, to point out the purposeful statement “shown by at least two…” of the criteria listed here. Two.

People with trauma involving childhood sexual abuse for example may experience the physical symptoms, 2 and 3, as well as possibly experiencing 4. Childhood sexual trauma can be psychologically complex and these children may internalize this trauma which may express itself as disgust with ones sexual characteristics. With this, it’s common to feel as though they wish to be rid of their genitals and with children, this could develop into the desire to change sex (or more specifically have the interpretation that they would like to be the opposite sex). This should of course never be treated medically and these people should absolutely seek therapeutic treatment.

People who grow up behaving atypically for others of their gender or who grow up gay can end up with emotional criteria 4–6. However the circumstances for this are more complex than just growing up playing with the “wrong toys” or something like that. For these feelings to present, the client would likely have experience heavy pushback or abuse from parents. The child may grow up resenting their identity and feel it would be easier to be the opposite gender and they may have even been told that they behave more like the opposite sex. Some of these people may seek to transition in many ways including medically in order to fit in to the role they may feel better suited for. Under extreme abuse, they may feel it would be better and make them acceptable because at least they wouldn’t be gay. Of course this was more common in the past, but still occurs today especially in less progressive countries or countries where homosexuality is highly frowned upon or even illegal.

People who were abused as children by parents in a very specific way that shamed them for their gender or shamed them for the sexual characteristics may end up with a mix of the criteria depending on the abuse they faced. This is more common in women who may grow up in extremely oppressive households where they are treated as property or households with extreme standards for appearance or behavior. They may grow up with resentment for their gender or their body based on these factors and can believe they must change their body to avoid future abuse. Abuse can also be very psychologically complex.

There’s several other reasons one may end up feeling disconnected from their gender or feeling disgust for their sexual characteristics. These are all very clear examples of real gender dysphoria. As a reminder, you only need two of these criteria for a diagnosis.

You’ll probably think “well none of that makes someone transsexual” you’d be absolutely right. Know why? Because every one of those circumstances could have been different and that person would have come out of their adolescence feeling completely normally about themselves. Transsexual people can be brought up in a million different ways but will always have that dysphoria. In a good or bad household all the same.

Now maybe you’ll see that the problem isn’t with my view of dysphoria, but the lack of specialized types of gender or sexual dysphoria that would make this hella less confusing and probably lessen the amount of people who are mistaking their feelings for something completely different.

Another thing to add here is that you will never find a legitimate transsexual person only meeting two criteria. I personally experience every single one. As do just about every single other transsexual person I’ve met. Whether or not they’ve been necessarily aware of some of them since childhood is irrelevant.

Finally on point 2. :

Why are you so concerned with what another group of people says? Terfs could point out that humans are mammals, would you tell a biologist they’re using a common terf talking point if they said it too? I have a lot of common psychologist talking points too, why is that not meantioned too?

The thing that “terfs” get wrong in that instance is the assumption that because those examples exist, that must mean anyone claiming that their experience is inherent and not brought on by socialization must be mistaken. Just because many people do develop those feelings in those ways does not mean that’s the case for everyone. It’s perhaps the denial of medical circumstances of transsexualism that causes that misconception. If they don’t believe in brain sex, then the cause from their perspective must be social. Makes sense but is not accurate.

I am transsexual and I have known for as far back as I have memories. I wouldn’t go around propagating something that denies my own experience. What I am saying directly contradicts what a good amount of “terfs” are saying. If you still fail to see that, it is clear that you are simply not understanding what I’m actually saying here.

You are a prime example of why psychology needs to get its shit together, especially since most mental healthcare professionals hate the DSM and have for decades and yet still won’t demand it to be better or make an alternative.

Also, the only reason I mentioned TERFs and tucutes is because they also go “hurr de durr cis people can have gender dysphoria”. I never said you’re sipping on the rest of their rhetoric, you easily offended dingeberry.

Amazing - now’s when you choose to “not be rude”.

None of us claimed to be experts but we are educated on the subject. You sure as fuck aren’t an expert on the matter or even educated about it. Just because someone’s not chugging down your bullshit doesn’t mean they “just don’t like the idea of it”. Grow the fuck up. Oh wait, you use mental disorders as an insult despite claiming to be a psychology student - you’re hopeless.

This person is like a pimple on the face of transmedicalism, let’s hope that doesn’t spread.

Science is more important than discourse.

Also using tucute and terf as signal phrases to halt critical thinking, acting as an all-knowing authority by using their status within a group (and also seemingly how far along with transition they are for some reason) as credibility, failure to address any of the points provided to them only to say “experts say you’re wrong” which is absolutely invalid and a quite poorly executed shit defense if I might add (we see this defense with people who are arguing with something above their heads quite often but they reject the information simply because they feel negatively about it though they may not understand it.), and overall this person is absolutely the wrong person to be in discussion on trans discourse. Rejecting psychology as a field (which they literally did “psychology needs to get its shit together”) is what people do when they are uneducated but highly emotionally involved in a topic and will reject anything they don’t like just because they don’t like it.

I’ve been on hormones consistently for nearly 6 years, I had top surgery nearly 5 years ago.

I cannot recall a single instance of so-called “gender euphoria”.

Before I medically transitioned I was in a constant state of distress whether out and about or all alone. Not passing gave me such a sickening feeling, hearing the wrong name and pronouns pained me and struck me with panic, binding was a much longer process than just putting it on, it was adjusting, constantly checking it and tucking it in, worrying about how I moved or if the wind would blow in a way it would show, for years I didn’t wear tank tops because I didn’t want my binder to show. I was constantly distressed and in a state of worry and anxiety.

When I started hormones and started passing, when an individual would come to gender me I would start to pre-panic but when they would say “he”, I would breathe a sigh of relief and be thankful I didn’t have to hear the wrong words. This was a consistent reaction until it became commonplace for me to be gendered correctly, then I would feel calm until I’d be thrown into another state of distress upon an uncommon misgendering.

When I had top surgery, I was so excited and so ready to go outside without a shirt on for the first time I was so excited to go out without a binder, I didn’t know what to expect. When I finally did, what I felt was relief. I had the weight of all I was trying to hide and all the distress I had was suddenly gone. I wasn’t euphoric, I just felt normal. That seems like such a small thing but when you experience that horrible distress every day, normal is a foreign concept. You can breathe and focus on just existing. No more worries and discomfort, just relief.

I’ve discussed this with several other transitioned individuals who have discussed the same phenomenon: expecting to feel a sense of euphoria, but experiencing a strong relief that feels so weirdly natural.

It’s like pulling the covers over your head for a while til it becomes stuffy and suffocating for a long time and then finally pulling the covers down to breathe fresh air. It feels really good for a little to breathe normally but it’s by no means orgasmic.

It’s very strange to me that someone would base their entire experience on a feeling that many of the transitioned people I know as well as myself haven’t even experienced. It’s not that exciting to pass, it’s not an extreme joy, it’s just a relief. It’s distressing to be misgendered and not pass. The lack of distress is not euphoria. Dysphoria and euphoria are opposites but that doesn’t mean you are either experiencing one or the other.

Euphoria to me is good food, good sex, and good times. Being read as male and doing things men do is just how it’s supposed to be for me. It’s what normal is supposed to be and to feel less than normal for so long, normalcy can feel pretty good for a while. But if someone is getting absolutely ecstatic losing their minds with some kind of extreme pleasure (which is what euphoria is) over something small like being read the way you were trying to be in the first place, seems incredibly suspicious and abnormal.

"Gender euphoria" doesn't refer to some superpowered almighty joy that blows minds, it refers to people being happy when seen as and/or referred to as the correct gender. Of course I cried with happiness when my mom called me Ross for the first time since I came out 4 or 5 years ago, or when my boss let me put that name on my nametag. I was REALLY HAPPY THAT I WASN'T BEING TOLD I WAS WRONG.

The fact that you think there's something wrong with me because I'm HAPPY WHEN I'M NOT MISGENDERED and that you NEED TO MAKE EXCUSES AND BACKPEDAL WHEN CALLED OUT FOR IT is kinda fucked up.

2/ I’d argue it’s ableist and just downright mean to tell someone they’re likely manic because they cry tears of joy when referred to with the correct name and pronouns. You’re basically telling anyone with a soft, sensitive heart that they’re manic, and that belittles the things that people with bipolar disorder go through.

2/ that’s not a normal reaction and it does resemble mania. Not saying you’re manic cus it could be something else of course but you should talk to someone. Also all tucutes who use the term ableist owe me $3.50.

the transmed ideology and community puts down thier fellow trans and nb siblings if they’re not “trans enough” or if they don’t understand thier trans experience. they do this to get cis people to like them and support them partially.

they will say things like “non dysphoric people who claim to be trans make us look bad!!! cis people won’t take ME, a real and genuine trans, seriously if they see YOU claiming to be trans”. they cling on to internalized transphobia.

they don’t realize that if cis people don’t respect them, it’s NOT because of some stargender kid or a non dysphoric trans person (like me). it’s because those cis people don’t respect the trans community in the first place.

and if they actually cared about their community, they would advocate for all of us. not mock us, tell us we’re not trans, say that we don’t deserve medical resources, ext.

you have obviously no idea what a cult actually is except for the bastardized media version of it that you see in tv shows. your lack of knowledge in this subject bleeds into your lack of knowledge of basic trans discussions

the transmed ideology and community puts down thier fellow trans and nb siblings if they’re not “trans enough” or if they don’t understand thier trans experience. they do this to get cis people to like them and support them partially.

they will say things like “non dysphoric people who claim to be trans make us look bad!!! cis people won’t take ME, a real and genuine trans, seriously if they see YOU claiming to be trans”. they cling on to internalized transphobia.

they don’t realize that if cis people don’t respect them, it’s NOT because of some stargender kid or a non dysphoric trans person (like me). it’s because those cis people don’t respect the trans community in the first place.

and if they actually cared about their community, they would advocate for all of us. not mock us, tell us we’re not trans, say that we don’t deserve medical resources, ext.

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Caricatures like these are incredibly harmful

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Second if you bind and try to pass, I’m not sure how this could be taken as a personal attack.

Society is very much based around stereotypes. That’s not an issue about transmeds specifically. Most of society (by a very very large margin) see secondary sex characteristics as an indication of gender. It doesn’t make sense to get mad about ordinary people making that assumption. That’s what the caricature is symbolizing. It’s an exaggeration yes, but it’s quite common to see people that do bind and don’t make a point of exaggerating feminine features getting upset about an image that doesn’t represent them, which is highly unusual. It’s not an attack on afab people at all. It’s a statement about inflated expectations of those around you to always make the right assumption.

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I’m going to loose my mind why are tucutes the most condescending and self righteous people on earth