Tyger Tyger

in which this whole recent plot line made me think that maybe they could have saved the moment from the dancing men (I think that’s what it’s called? That one very popular moment) for this storyline, however without making Moran try to kill Watson because that’s a stupid idea) which could’ve sparked Sherlock more intrigue with the Spider? However I have no idea if this is better or not tbh

Meanwhile I guess Mariana doesn't get to be traumatised about everything that happened or if she is traumatised her trauma doesn't matter cos Sherlock and John have to go off on ~adventures~ and Mycroft has to do his gay James Bond shit and """funny""" bickering with Sherlock. It's annoyed me before how Mariana is always the one who gets shoved out to go visit her parents or whatever and misses so much and now they're doing the same thing again (and the one time she got to be really really awesome was, unfortunately, in The Empty House or in other words the worst story they've done which I will never want to listen to again).

By which I mean, asks used to be WAY more of the tumblr economy. They used to be more common to send, and receive, and see. They were integral to the collaborative, forum-like behavior of old tumblr communities, not even to speak on the HUGE number of ask-blogs that used to exist to only be interacted with in ask-form.

I feel like they had more potential to do more with him to make him more like the og moran, and I wouldn't be shocked if they added a "moran substitute" that's either Moran or by giving him a sibling or just an apprentice or smt like that. Just a thought.

It's its own adaptation, it's bound to have character changes that differ from others and the original story lines. Creative liberties and all that. I'm basing my opinion off of only sherlock and co, not looking at other adaptations, and I don't mind the portrayal of him. Don't really have a reason for hating him (the portrayal) without looking into other adaptations, which is slightly unfair when looking at new adaptations. They are their own version that should be looked at like that.

I mean I kind of get it to some extent, people who were not already invested in the character or don't know anything about the canon or the character already or people who don't give a damn about the 'bad guys' anyway and just want the 'good guys' to win always not seeing any issue with how badly he was portrayed in it. But at the same time I feel like their portrayal of Moran doesn't even make sense in the context of S&Co itself because they kept going on about him like he's some brilliant major villain yet he barely did anything, then they just killed him off in a very strange way which treated killing a person pretty much like it was a joke and doesn't actually matter at all, and he just seems to be quite stupid and not really competent at anything except apparently beating people up (plus also seemingly much of his criminal career was just working in a bank which doesn't exactly make him sound like a really dangerous criminal either), which not only undermines this idea that he somehow deserved to just be executed, essentially (and by John. Armed police maybe would have made more sense but not John) because he really doesn't come over as that dangerous or capable or any worse than countless other criminals, but also it undermines the police (who couldn't find Moran), it undermines Sherlock (who never actually seemed interested in Moran not even when he thought Moran was 'the spider') and it undermines Moriarty and how dangerous he really is too (because it's like, that is the guy who Moriarty values so highly?).

I think adaptations don't have to follow what other adaptations do (and it's fairly pointless comparing this to other adaptations anyway in terms of Moran specifically, since so many of them never used him at all or also portrayed him badly), but they've got to have some sort of solid basis in the original material surely but with Moran he's just practically unrecognisable and they just seemed to change everything about him for the worse to try to make him seem as repellant as possible instead of actually developing his character properly to make him into an effective and capable and actually menacing villain with at least some sort of depth (also I don't even know what was up with all his swearing. I kind of get the feeling it was meant to be funny? But then if it was meant to be funny that seems like it makes him feel even less actually dangerous, if they're just trying to portray him as this 'comic' figure).

About the only detail they did seem to keep was him working for Moriarty and mattering in some way to Moriarty (which makes it even more bizarre really that they drastically altered so many other things about him, because a LOT of adaptations and pastiches have either ignored Moran completely or erased or denied his closeness to Moriarty).

Also there are some people who already really like Moran who don't seem to see anything wrong with his portrayal in it and that's just totally wild to me cos it's like, Moran is supposed to be really clever and a competent stealthy hunter and killer and be trying to get revenge on Holmes after The Final Problem plus also he doesn't die in the canon (nor is he shot by Watson), but they just threw all of this out in S&Co to turn him into this one dimensional 'baddy' with no depth at all and then he dies, but some existing fans of the character seem to see no issue with this.

-no

-yes, intentionally

-yes, accidentally

-they might (i haven’t watched or read all of their media)

-they seem like they would but not canon

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