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Claire and Isaac kisses, a gif set, cause I can't handle their cuteness

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Claire: "You're saying You're better with me than without me?"
Isaac: "Affermitive, Doctor."
On the claim "Claire took advantage of Isaac."
So lately I’ve been coming across all kinds of people saying that either Claire took advantage of Isaac or that she was just ‘’projecting her delusions’’ on him. Which, okay, to give people credit, yes it might look that way on the surface (because yes, their relationship is nothing simple), but let me tell you why that claim is not only just painting a terrible picture of them, but in general just incorrect.
Alright let's go all the way back to the start, the shuttle crash, when Ty was really ill and they had no way of healing him down there on that planet without the equipment she had in sickbay. She was really upset and now logically he could have ignored that (standing still by that fact wouldn't help Ty nor give them a way to escape) Yet, Isaac reached for her hand. Giving her the sense of comfort she needed in that moment.
Now fast forward to their first date, yes he has no clue what he is doing, but it makes sense, he is a life form who has never experienced such a thing in his life. Now after their first date she tells him that she was reaching in the wrong direction CONFIRMING that she knew she was ''in the wrong'' /did have doubts (and not just "delusions") and again, logically (especially if he didn't want this one way or another) he could have stopped there, but no. He went to his friends for advice and found a way to be human for her so she could kiss him, the way she had requested. And, by the way, when she did, he literally said and I quote: ''If you wish you may kiss me again.'' All of this implies consent. Then, when they are broken up again, he starts making errors, again implying that he is distracted, he even says that his ''Internal programs function more efficiently'' as her partner and makes it rain on the dang bridge for her. There are so many instances where he literally goes out of his way to either fix a problem for her or mend their relationship. If she was taking advantage of him or being delusional, logically, why the heck would he be continuing?
Now one thing that is important to note here is that he is absolutely convinced he is incapable of love, yet proves through his actions multiple times that it is much more complex than that. For example when he saves Ty against all logic and the wishes of the Kaylon or when he is ready to give up all his memories so he can love Claire in a human way. Why would he do that, if this relationship with Claire wasn't important to him? He wanted to do it for her, he even stated that he would do this, because he wanted to be a better partner. Not to mention the time he k\*lled himself, because the crew hated him for what he and his species had done and it would basically be ''better that way'' in his mind.
Now let's expand on that moment, the moment where he felt ''emotions'' in a human way for the first time. What is especially interesting here, is that he needs no time to fall in love with Claire, nor find out that he loves her, he does, he knows it. Implying that somewhere deep down, it had always been there, because they could have easily made this a whole arc of him finding his way to her or falling in love with her, but no, they decided to show us that it was already there, but because he is Kaylon, it is a lot more complex. He doesn't know what love is as a Kaylon, because in the end he doesn't experience it the way a human would and frankly, wouldn't that be so incredibly confusing? Especially if you are surrounded by only humans. Maybe he was told they were incapable of love or any emotions, but it wasn't true. Remember the two parter in season 2? When one of the Kaylons even asked him if he was acting on remorse (or something along the lines of that). If the Kaylon cannot feel, why would they experience remorse? Maybe it was something just like the Vulcans in star trek, they suppressed it, acted like it wasn't there, because if they would really start feeling things, what would that mean for their actions? What they did and were doing? Which we see in Isaac when he turns against his own people, but hey, that’s just speculations (don’t come for me).
And for Claire’s ‘’delusions’’ that she is "forcing" on everyone, for example when he said (as mentioned before) that he would delete his memories for her, she answers ‘’Some people would call that love.’’ Is that really forcing ‘’emotions’’ on him or is that just speculation? Has she ever claimed that he is capable of love? No. Has she never admitted that she is wrong and maybe this is just a one way thing? Also no. She is just exploring what this is, just like he is, but yes there are countless occasions that show us that he loves her and she cannot deny that. Can we blame her for that?
Anyway, that was a long one, I think we can conclude that yes, it is a very layered and complex love story. I believe that Isaac, just like Data (with for example Tasha, who he grieved) is capable of love and that somewhere deep down he knows it too. Why does he refuse to acknowledge it? Who knows? Maybe we will find that out in the future or perhaps it is just in his nature (or programming), but it is there and I think this is a classic, showing but no telling story, where it is all shown in implications.
more people should watch the orville and more people who watch it should post about it methinks
The Orville: 1x1 Old Wounds

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I’m showing my wife DS9 and we got to the season 3 opener, where the crew is behind the door on the changeling home world, and she asked “do the changelings know the Dominion is here doing this???” And I declined to answer.
When Kira went “youre part of the dominion aren’t you?” she went “shit!”
And female Changeling said “we ARE the dominion.” “Shit!”
“We are the Founders.” “SHIT!”
She was incredibly pleased of the development and did not see it coming. Thank you for the joy
Glad she was surprised and pleased!
When we came up with that twist, Ira, Pete, and I had planned to hold the reveal for a season or two. Then we pitched it to Michael and his response was basically: "No, that's too good to hold back. Let's do it for the opening of Season Three." Which is why it happens where it does.
Star Trek Voyager: The Voyager Conspiracy.
Chakotay: You didn't poison the coffee, did you?
Captain Janeway: Not any more than I usually do.
#StarTrek #Voyager
Was anyone gonna tell me the Orville takes itself 100% seriously after the first two episodes or was I suppose to find out theres genuinely good new Trek content out there myself?
1/22/26 stats for The Orville on Hulu:
#15 in the top 112 TV shows (⬆️8)
#11 in the top 73 drama shows (⬆️4)
#8 in the top 47 comedy shows (⬆️5)
#7 in the top 20 sci-fi shows (⬆️1)
Look, Look at me. I also hate family guy. I also used to hiss when I heard the name seth MacFarlane because I hate family guy and he is family guy.
The orville is not family guy.
The orville is not family guy in space.
The orville is a love note to star trek .
The orville is wholesome
The orville says the future is full of hope and love
The orville says trans kids matter
The orville says strong women
Yes there are silly jokes in the orville; it does not detract from the genuine sci-fi beauty this show is, but rather, adds to it.
The orville says people are complex and can carry all range of emotions from dramatic to comedic
Go watch the orville.
The Orville is truly different than anything else Seth MacFarlane had ever created. It’s a proper homage to Star Trek with strong characters of color, strong female characters, and tackles things like sexism, racism, and LGBTQ+ rights head on without shying away at the last minute like many other shows and films do.
If you enjoy sci-fi and are looking for a show with some hope for the future in these uncertain times, watch The Orville.

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Look, Look at me. I also hate family guy. I also used to hiss when I heard the name seth MacFarlane because I hate family guy and he is family guy.
The orville is not family guy.
The orville is not family guy in space.
The orville is a love note to star trek .
The orville is wholesome
The orville says the future is full of hope and love
The orville says trans kids matter
The orville says strong women
Yes there are silly jokes in the orville; it does not detract from the genuine sci-fi beauty this show is, but rather, adds to it.
The orville says people are complex and can carry all range of emotions from dramatic to comedic
Go watch the orville.
I honestly now think that maybe Seth MacFarlane's entire career was just a long game to build enough trust in Hollywood to get to do his own version of Star Trek.
Look, Look at me. I also hate family guy. I also used to hiss when I heard the name seth MacFarlane because I hate family guy and he is family guy.
The orville is not family guy.
The orville is not family guy in space.
The orville is a love note to star trek .
The orville is wholesome
The orville says the future is full of hope and love
The orville says trans kids matter
The orville says strong women
Yes there are silly jokes in the orville; it does not detract from the genuine sci-fi beauty this show is, but rather, adds to it.
The orville says people are complex and can carry all range of emotions from dramatic to comedic
Go watch the orville.
I’m not gonna lie I don’t think I ever would’ve been into Star Trek primarily because of things like my generation and how I was raised like it wasn’t something I was ever going to get introduced to. I would’ve had to find it myself and by that point I don’t think it would’ve aligned with the person I was but….
THE ORVILLE!!
That is my Star Trek. I love it. I rewatched it 1 million times and I have no one to talk about it with. It’s beautiful and hopeful and complicated and gorgeous and hilarious and yeah cringe as fuck. But I LOVEEEEEE it
Penny Johnson Jerald and Mark Jackson have such amazing onscreen chemistry. From the beginning, they made a pact regarding Claire and Isaac's relationship that, although it is between a human and an artificial life form, they did not want it to come across as being comical, but genuinely sincere and romantic. They succeeded.
Seth created the character of Dr. Claire Finn specifically for Penny. She didn't even have to audition for the part. Mark auditioned via a video while he was still living in London.
My profile page on both Twitter and Bluesky is totally devoted to Claire and Isaac. In 2022, after watching their incredibly romantic scene in the simulator in From Unknown Graves, I was inspired to paraphrase Isaac's outpouring of love to Claire, and it is my pinned tweet on Twitter and Bluesky. And bonus, Mark Jackson retweeted it!
I've posted it below.
as a shojo manga fan and a rom com fan, the best love confession of all time is from the orville. isaac, an artificial life form, and claire, a human, are already in a relationship at this point. he can’t understand that he loves her the way she loves him, but he knows that he functions better when they’re a couple. he gets the opportunity to undergo surgery to allow him to feel emotions - emotions that were already there. he then tells claire everything she’d always hoped he felt. but not just the positives. it’s his first time with any of this - he describes everything that it really means to love someone. not just how beautiful they are, but how it feels to wait for them to enter the room, all of the nerves and longing. he describes the most fundamental parts of the emotion of love. my favorite line is “and i feel… so sad. for all of those people that have to live their lives without you.” love is knowing someone is so special that you can’t imagine them not being special to ANYONE. not just you. they are special in general. and anyone should be sad to not have them.
the surgery ends up only temporarily working on isaac, and the doctor tells him that it can be made permanent - if he gives up all of his memories. he tells claire that it’s up to her whether he gets the next surgery or not. matter-of-factly, he says that if she needs it to be with him, then it will be done. less immediately, she answers that she could never ask him to give up his memories. that’s who she fell in love with. she fell in love with an artificial life form BECAUSE the way he views love is fresh and devoted and all-encompassing.
I love what you wrote about Claire and Isaac. Penny Johnson Jerald and Mark Jackson have such amazing onscreen chemistry. From the beginning, they made a pact regarding Claire and Isaac's relationship that, although it is between a human and an artificial life form, they did not want it to come across as being comical, but genuinely sincere and romantic. They succeeded.
Seth created the character of Dr. Claire Finn specifically for Penny. She didn't even have to audition for the part. Mark auditioned via a video while he was still living in London.
My profile page on both Twitter and Bluesky is totally devoted to Claire and Isaac. In 2022, after watching their incredibly romantic scene in the simulator in From Unknown Graves, I was inspired to paraphrase Isaac's outpouring of love to Claire, and it is my pinned tweet on Twitter and Bluesky. And bonus, Mark Jackson retweeted it!
I've posted it below.
This is what I wrote:
This remains one of the most romantic lines I have ever seen and it comes from a robot who experiences emotions for the first time
[ID: Screenshots from The Orville. Isaac, in his human form, speaks to Claire. Isaac: "The warmth of your smile, the... way you look at me. I feels safe. And I feel... so sad. For all those people who have to live their lives without you." END ID]

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Look, Look at me. I also hate family guy. I also used to hiss when I heard the name seth MacFarlane because I hate family guy and he is family guy.
The orville is not family guy.
The orville is not family guy in space.
The orville is a love note to star trek .
The orville is wholesome
The orville says the future is full of hope and love
The orville says trans kids matter
The orville says strong women
Yes there are silly jokes in the orville; it does not detract from the genuine sci-fi beuty this show is, but rather, adds to it.
The orville says people are complex and can carry all range of emotions from dramatic to comedic
Go watch the orville.
The Orville was more “Trek” than new Trek
When The Orville launched, many of the show’s characteristics matched what we loved about Star Trek more than Star Trek: Discovery did. (originally posted to RedshirtsAlwaysDie.com) So I wanted to come on here and take a look back to 2017. You see, for fans of science fiction, and more importantly, Star Trek, 2017 was going to be a big year for us because while Star Trek had been given a fresh…