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Yes definitely. Jay wants obedience but he also loves making Sun be obedient. He enjoys that Sun is a mouthy little shit who has a sub buried deep within him that Jay needs to force to the surface. And Sun likes it too, even if he doesn't want to. His first fantasy about them involved him challenging Jay and then having Jay push him against the couch and pin him down to kiss him while Sun briefly struggled before eventually giving in. The fact that Sun is strong and a fierce fighter is super important when it comes to the brat taming, because he can actually fight Jay off when he wants to. The scene in the office in which Sun had the mascot suit on comes to mind. Jay shoved him over the table in order to see his tattoo, and Sun struggled and protested, but let Jay hold him down with one arm. He eventually pushed him away, though, without seemingly much effort, once he actually wanted to.

And yes, the power imbalance between them is real, but I don't get the impression that Sun letting Jay dominate him is ultimately about wanting to get ahead in the industry. I think if he didn't truly want this on a fundamental level he wouldn't be letting Jay get away with all of this. You see that from when he was almost sexually assaulted by those industry men. He had a literal gun to his head and he wasn't submitting. If wanting to get ahead in the industry was his sole motivation, he would have had sex with that man. He wants Jay, whether he can admit that to himself or not. He wants to be a brat and be tamed by Jay. For Jay to hold him down and force him into submission.

#I'm not a brat but I can't deny that I like watching them be tamed #sunjay #jaysun #payback #payback meta #my meta

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#what do I have to do to have a beautiful woman or man say that to me?#Sun doesn't appreciate what he has nearly enough #jay x sun #sun x jay #sunjay #jaysun #payback the series #payback #payback meta #my meta

Oh! Also! I love how the sexual aspect of their relationship isn't simply there to titillate(not that I'm inherently opposed to that). The kissing and the one sex scene so far has been telling a story about who they are and how they relate to each other. Jay forcing kisses on Sun and manhandling him is about Jay breaking down Sun's barriers and molding him into the submissive boy he wants him to be. Jay's dominance and desire for Sun to be his sub is an extremely important aspect of his character and motivations. And Sun slowly starting to melt at Jay's touch despite his reluctance is important to see as well.

Their sex scene told a story about why Jay became obsessed with Sun. And what Sun was going through when it was happening. I'm not clear on if he was crying due solely to grief or if part of it was about the intense vulnerability of allowing someone to Top him. Regardless, the tears also allowed us to see just how sadistic Jay is. Most people would stop sex if their partner started crying(unless it was a negotiated kink), but Jay simply smiled rather cruelly and kept fucking Sun. He looked like he was intensely enjoying Sun's tears the whole time they were having sex, despite the fact that there was no kink negotiation and he had no idea why Sun was crying. He just liked seeing Sun in some kind of pain. This is an important thing to know about who Jay actually is as a person, because it helps explain why he's enjoying making Sun so uncomfortable. And I think it'll continue to serve as good context in future episodes.

Also he appears to be a furry. Not my thing, but hey, I'm sure there are plenty of people who were thrilled, so congrats to them.

(Standard disclaimer about how this is a dark fantasy and not the way you should do kink, and Jay's behavior is unacceptable irl)

#it's all very heated rivalry #the show not the book #the sex scenes were always about telling a story about how the characters related to each other #and who they were as people #and yes part of it was about the fact that most people have sexual desires #and getting to see pretty men have sex makes a show more captivating for many of us #this show is the same imo #payback the series #payback #sunjay #jaysun #sun x jay #jay x sun #my meta #payback meta

Well fuck me Payback is fucking FANTASTIC.

Acting is excellent. Min does microexpressions very well. Even though he maintains a largely stone face most of the time, somehow you can still tell how his character is supposed to feel. I love it.

The darkness in this show is quite captivating. Neither of the leads are entirely good or bad people. Sun did some absolutely horrific things when he was younger, but then his grief and his guilt led him to trying to be better. Yet now he's letting his thirst for vengeance control him. At least it seems that the way he plans on taking revenge doesn't involve violence. Sure he beat up his classmates, but to be fair they very much started it.

Jay/Arthur's main goal at this point appears to be seducing Sun, yet he also wants to help Sun get revenge because apparently a one night stand made Jay fall for him. I can't really ascertain much else about him. All of his energy is focused on Sun. He's clearly good at his job, but I don't know how much he actually cares about it. And while I would like to learn more about who he is as a person in general, I can't deny that I enjoy watching him dominate Sun.

Speaking of which. The kink. The KINK.

Okay, to be clear, this is not healthy or negotiated power exchange. Jay has genuine power over Sun and he's using it. This does not consensual D/s make. Every time Jay has done something sexual to Sun so far(except for the first time they had sex) it has not been consensual or at all okay. But I'm letting myself enjoy it because I think this relationship is supposed to be dark and fucked up.

All of that being said, I enjoy the fuck out of how dominant Jay is. His energy is powerful, and the way he directs it at Sun is captivating. Sun definitely gives off Top energy, but not really Dom energy. That's a hard distinction to make, but essentially a Top is just the person either penetrating in sex or doing other kinky things to a bottom, without necessarily being dominant. A Dom is someone who is in charge of their sub, and the sub wants to give them control on a deeper level than penetration or S&M, etc. Doms can bottom sexually or in S&M or bondage play(and various other things--I'm not going to give an exhaustive list of kink activities). They generally Top though. Sun is a Top, and he has very slight Dom energy. Jay seems to take that as a challenge, because he knows that Sun is a bit of a Switch. He wants to bring the submissive side out of Sun. To make Sun his obedient boy.

Also jfc the fact that Jay clearly got turned on because Sun was crying during sex. Dacryphilia my beloved. I'm sure most people are disturbed by that kink but whatever, I am who I am.

"If you want me to be fond of you, you'd better do as you're told."

When I tell you I just about DIED.

Can't wait for the next episode. This show. Fuck.

Oh also Jo is so good, I adore him.

(repeated disclaimer that this isn't healthy kink, it's dark fantasy--negotiate thoroughly and don't play with people who use non kink power over you to control you, only people who respect you and your boundaries completely)

#payback #payback bl #payback the series #sunjay #jaysun #Jay x sun #sun x Jay #payback meta #my meta

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Hannibal

#I could talk about that show for hours #nothing is worth losing queue #hannibal

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On ep 4 of Payback and I have to wonder if the show genuinely thinks it can convince us that Min's face is "ordinary" just by having many different characters say that it is.

#like how many times am I gonna have to see someone say with a straight face #that that beautiful man somehow isn't #thequeenofsastiel liveblogs #payback #payback the series

whyamihereat4am

Look I don't think Supergirl (2026) is secretly a perfect masterpiece or anything (I personally thought it was like. a 6/10 fun time) but I do think it's wild that Tumblr isn't going crazy for it because this Kara is one coattailed suit away from being a Tumblr sexyman. she is the flawed messy female character people have supposedly been clamouring for. she's the popular archetype of a gruff self-destructive alcoholic middle-aged man begrudgingly having to look after a kid and growing fond of them but genderswapped and also 23. she's allowed to be visibly messy and kind of gross and her hair is constantly all over the place and she literally cries, screams, throws up, and pisses onscreen. she's caustic and mean and puts up an act of carelessness but has a heart of gold. she's heavily traumatised and coping with it terribly. if anything happens to her dog she will kill everyone in this room and then herself. she spends most of the movie in a trench coat and baggy band T-shirt. she gets into bar brawls and breaks a guy's hand. she is Going Through It 24/7 and looks the part. she stabs a guy in the throat. how is everyone else not obsessed with her.

thequeenofsastiel

We know why

#Supergirl 2026 #Kara Zor El #misogyny

cheaphalloweencostume

“be gay do crime! but sex is yucky and crime is wrong!” ass website

thequeenofsastiel

The truth of this tho

#humor #tumblr

stegal

Ha a lélek vándorlásában hiszünk, el kell fogadnunk hogy ha zenészek voltunk, zenészek maradunk akkor is, ha négy lábbal újraszületünk..

silvormoon

Translation, via Google Translate:

If we believe in the migration of the soul, we have to accept that if we were musicians, we will remain musicians even if we are reborn with four legs.

thepioden

Wolfgang Malamozart over here like damn

thequeenofsastiel

Why does this not have a million notes

#tumblr video #dogs #music talk #animals #nothing is worth losing queue

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fluffmugger

#so did they miss the part where gatsby ends up floating dead in a pool and all the miserable deaths in wuthering heights#or did they miss that because there weren’t any chapters titled In Which The Sinners Are Punished For Their Errors#like. even if you require explicit moral instruction from literature it’s pretty hard to miss the comeuppance in those.

pennie-dreadful

“What I assume my teachers were trying to teach me”

doctorbluesmanreturns

Huck Finn is about a white Southern boy who was raised to believe that freeing slaves is a sin that would send you directly to hell who forges a familial bond with a runaway slave and chooses to free him and thereby in his mind lose his salvation because he refuses to believe that his best friend and surrogate father is less of a man just because he’s black. Yes it features what we now consider racial slurs but this is a book written only 20 years after people were literally fighting to be allowed to keep other human beings as property, we cannot expect people from the 1880s to exactly conform with the social mores of 2020, and more to the point if we ourselves had been raised during that time period there’s very little doubt that we would also hold most if not all of the prevalent views of the time because actual history isn’t like period novels written now where the heroes are perfect 21st century social justice crusaders and the villains are all as racist and sexist as humanly possible. Change happens slowly and ignoring the radical statement that we’re all human beings that Twain wrote at a time when segregation and racial tensions were still hugely prevalent just because he wrote using the language of his time period is short-sighted and foolhardy to the highest degree.

mikkeneko

I’m really kind of alarmed at the rise in the past few years of the “and we do condemn! wholeheartedly!” discourse around historical figures. it seems like people have somehow boomeranged between “morals were different in the past, therefore nobody in the past can ever be held accountable for ANY wrongs” to “morals are universal and timeless, and anything done wrong by today’s standards in the past is ABSOLUTELY unforgiveable” so completely, because social media 2.0 is profoundly allergic to nuance

please try this on for size:

there have always been, in past times as today, a range of people in every society, some of whom were even then fighting for a more just and compassionate accord with their fellow man and some of whom let their greeds and hatreds rule them to the worst allowable excesses. the goal of classics and history education is to teach you enough context to discern between the two, not only in the past but in the present

three--rings

My mind just boggles at the “There’s Racism In That Book” argument. Yes, there is racism in that book, because that book is ABOUT RACISM. The message is that it is BAD.

My high school English teacher, who was a viciously brilliant woman, used to say that when people banned Huck Finn they said it was about the language, but it was really the message they were trying to ban, the subversive deconstruction of (religious) authority and white supremacy.

lyricwritesprose

Huckleberry Finn can actually be seen as a powerful case study in trying to do social justice when you have absolutely no tools for it, right down to vocabulary. And in that respect, it’s a heroic tale, because Huck—with absolutely no good examples besides Jim, who he has been taught to see as subhuman, with no guidance, with everyone telling him that doing the right thing will literally damn him, with a vocabulary that’s full of hate speech—he turns around and says, “I’m not going to do it. I’m not going to participate in this system. If that means I go to Hell, so be it. Going to Hell now.”

(I used to read a blogger who insisted that “All right, I’ll go to Hell,” from Huckleberry Finn is the most pure and perfect prayer in the canon of American literature. Meaning, as I understand it, that the decision to do the right thing in the face of eternal damnation is the most holy decision one can make, and if God Himself is not proud of the poor mixed-up kid, then God Himself is not worth much more than a “Get thee behind me,” and the rest of us should be lining up to go to Hell too. Worth noting that this person identified as an evangelical Christian, not because he was in line with what current American evangelicals believe, but because “they can change their name, I’m not changing mine.” Interesting guy. Sorry for the long parenthetical.)

Anyway, the point of Huck Finn, as far as I can tell, is that you can still choose to do good in utter darkness, with no guidance and no help and none of the right words.

And when you put it like that, it’s no wonder that a lot of people on Tumblr—people who prioritize words over every other form of social justice—find it threatening and hard to comprehend.

omenapologist-moved

This is why it’s important to learn how to analyze media, a skill we are apparently losing.

While Huck Finn, for example, absolutely and obviously carries a moral message, not all stories do, because not every story is supposed to teach you something, nor will every story hold your hand and gently walk you to an easy conclusion.

monjustmon

I am so frustrated by the “if media portrays something, it’s saying it’s ok” and “if you enjoy a piece of medoa which portrays something negative, then you’re bad” mentality. Just pls. Stop. That’s not how stories work.

fierceawakening

“I used to read a blogger who insisted that “All right, I’ll go to Hell,” from Huckleberry Finn is the most pure and perfect prayer in the canon of American literature. Meaning, as I understand it, that the decision to do the right thing in the face of eternal damnation is the most holy decision one can make, and if God Himself is not proud of the poor mixed-up kid, then God Himself is not worth much more than a “Get thee behind me,” and the rest of us should be lining up to go to Hell too.”

This right here.

If “you should be willing to sacrifice everything, including your soul, to protect your friends when everyone around wants your help hurting them” stops becoming a moral lesson because someone says the n-word, I think people are… a little TOO impressed with the power of hate speech.

Hate speech is a terrible thing, but it’s not witchcraft. It has the power we grant to it.

If you want to say “I know what the point was, but I couldn’t get past seeing that word typed out,” feel free, but please don’t say “typing that word out nullifies the point,” as that is not how anything works.

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heartpeacenquiet

It's okay if it takes a little longer than you thought.

#encouragement #keep going #nothing is worth losing queue

Hold the phone, no one told me A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms is a comedy!! Here I was thinking I'd have to deal with depressing and disturbing stories without the distraction of cool CGI dragons, but instead I'm getting the humorous version of Westeros! This is so much better. I take it all back, three eps in, I definitely fuck with AKOTSK.

#a knight of the seven kingdoms #humor #comedy

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tentacuddles

would much like to point out that the people publishing these articles are trying to needle millennials into treating gen z with the same disgusting vitriol we were treated with.

don’t buy it.

our younger brothers and sisters might eat a tide pod and get us blamed for it, but we have more in common with them than we ever had with boomers or gen x.

they are terrified of the things we can do together. remember that.

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thequeenofsastiel

Precisely. It's not different generations that are the problem, it is, and always has been, rich people.

#nothing is worth losing queue #fuck capitalism

Supreme Court rejects Trump bid to restrict birthright citizenship | Reuters

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/supreme-court-rule-trump-bid-limit-birthright-citizenship-2026-06-30/

This is a huge fucking relief, but it's also deeply depressing that it was a 6-3 ruling instead of the 9-0 ruling that it should have been.

#birthright citizenship #supreme court #breaking news #us politics #politics #donald trump

xenadaily

Xena has many skills! XENA: WARRIOR PRINCESS 🗡️ (1.11) (1.20) (2.11) (2.19) (2.22) (3.15) (6.18)

#retrotvblr #xena #lucy lawless #nothing is worth losing queue

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Okay, I do have to comment on the scene that I saw many screencaps of when I peeked in the tags for the show. The implication that Armand loved Daniel in Dubai is, frankly, a bullshit retcon.

Now, as a poly person, I'd never say you can't love more than one person. And, as someone who read every last book from The Vampire Chronicles, I'm well aware that those vampires had much love for each other and monogamy wasn't even slightly a thing. However, I watched and rewatched that show to a frankly unhealthy degree, and I got exactly no hints in seasons 1 and 2 that Armand held any love for Daniel. No, I am not saying that because of the mad devotion I had for Loumand. Sastiel is my ultimate OTP and has been for the last eight years, yet I'm capable of recognizing that Sam loved Dean far more than he loved Castiel(he shouldn't have, but that's beside the point). I was completely prepared for Armand to eventually fall for Daniel after turning him out of spite. But this notion that he already held any love for Daniel in the first two seasons is absurd. It's obvious fanservice, and it makes my decision not to watch s3 seem even wiser.

#loumand #not even tagging the show bc I want to minimize drama #though I feel fairly certain it'll come #but I had to get this off my chest

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elidyce

“This is a tapestry I made myself! I just finished it!”

“…. this is…. big.”

“Eighty feet long, ten high, in forty panels! It was originally going to be sixty feet, but then the Thomas Malory Arthuriana got big and I had to put more stuff in.”

“… Malory published in the fifteenth century.”

“Do you have any idea how long it takes one person to embroider eight thousand square feet of tapestry?”

“You’ve had a lot of free time in the last eight hundred years, haven’t you?”

“Not once I took up embroidery as a hobby, no!”

memesnotwelcome

“Want to see my stalagmite cultivation work?”

#nothing is worth losing queue #humor #vampires

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