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OOC: Hello! This is, as you might have guessed, a Kris Dreemurr rp blog! (And also my first rp blog, don't worry I'm a writer I've got this haha)

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So I'm wondering: what inspires philosophical layer of your Kriselle writing? Maybe it's based on actual philosophical schools and concepts (like the Johari window)? My personal reading of your comics is that they're very existentialist and humanist, like Sartre's work.

thank you!! i think that thanks to a lot of things revealed and shared in the new chapters -- particularly regarding noelle and dess, in their own respective ways -- theres a lot more that can be dug into regarding like... existence? and psychology. i didn't have an incredibly proper education on any philosophy or anything, the extent of my formal education on any of this was just me being a communication studies minor in university (which isn't nothing by any means, it's how i learned about the johari window after all)

but i think my urge to get Philosophical with deltarune comes from the unique position we're in as people observing the story; the kinds of things that exist "outside" of reality or on a different plane of existence, etc. that the characters can't quite comprehend, but we can. it's interesting how the kinds of things we as people think about, like "maybe the universe was created last thursday" or "maybe there's a teapot floating out in space that no one can prove the existence of" ... when these questions are applied to a fictional, contained world, we do know the answers to them (to a degree) while the characters don't. maybe in our real life, there are things outside of reality we can't see and will never know about -- but we get to play god when fiction comes into question, and we can even affect what happens via our own little hole into their world with the SOUL.

to me it's like, more complex than your typical fourth wall break... its less about grabbing noelle by the shoulders and shouting GIRL YOURE IN A VIDEO GAME and more about her realizing that like... there's something more. reality isn't as it seems. there are incomprehensible forces at play here and one wrong step could leave you in the void with your sister. just because it's fiction doesn't mean a story needs to have its layers peeled back and its characters forced into realization... but it's certainly fun to see how they'd react to the idea that nothing is real...!

when it comes to what i personally choose to cover, idk if i have a proper label i can put on it, i'd have to do some more research lol... im a big fan of "everything is a lie" type of crap and i always have been. although, there's more to it than that... it's all about how you end up applying it to the media to get something out of it that you couldn't quite grasp before. the Johari Window one is a pretty straightforward example, since the comic itself almost feels like a school assignment -- applying the concept to understand someone or something better. i've had people suggest other ideas to analyze more in a similar structure to that comic, but i don't think i will, since going through concept after concept like a checklist isn't really what i'm looking to achieve... you could apply any kind of philosophical or communication or psychological concept to any of the characters, but what i'm most interested in digging my teeth into is everything weird route related. then, i also find myself wanting to apply the concepts in ways i couldn't do for myself or real-life people, hence the nod to some "alternate reality" or future foresight regarding how noelle perceives herself and how the reader's own knowledge of the game adds a different weight to the words she says.

this is my long winded way of just saying i think these kinds of things are super cool lol. ive mentioned my perpetually unfinished comic manuscript where dess goes on an uchikoshi infodump while kris is like, sitting in the dirt doing fuck all, with her explaining things like last thursdayism and russell's teapot in an unexpectedly introspective way... and even though this whole thing won't see the light of day for a while, i kind of like how i was able to knit together some of the concepts for it:

"Basically, all I mean to say is that reality isn’t so cut and dry. There are things that exist – and don’t exist, when we think they do – that lay outside our understanding of life. Maybe 99% of your life has been one gigantic lie. Or maybe there are all kinds of smaller lies that control your daily life.  But at the same time, what defines a truth and a lie? Even if everything really was created last Thursday, all of our memories are completely sound and clear in our heads. It’s all “true.” Therefore, nothing meaningful comes out of that revelation.  But, the sheer possibility of things not being real is enough to make you question everything. To see the cracks in reality that have formed in the corner of your eye.  Suddenly, the impossible becomes possible, and things that “aren’t real” become more real than you could ever imagine. You find yourself shrouded in darkness, in a world that is, to the average person, “fake.” It’s “not real.” It’s “made up.” But then, something that apparently “doesn’t exist” begins to hurt you. That pain feels real. You look at your body, and you’re bleeding. That blood is real. You can feel it, taste it.  Even if no one else can see it, your wounds are real. They are “true.” You can make something out of nothingness. Like with Russell’s Teapot. Or you can make nothingness out of something. Like with Last Thursdayism. You can’t prove any of it, because there is no objective truth. Everyone forms their own truth. Is it real? Is it not? It’s different for everyone."

she applies the ideas to the concept of dark worlds (if that wasn't clear) and then after this excerpt she applies it to the prophecy as well, basically asking if something so widely believed to be true and inevitable will really happen, since this reality the prophecy creates isn't the same for everyone... like susie, for example. chapter 4 emphasizes just how important it is that everyone writes their own stories... the "truth" of the reality around them may not be as sound as most people believe it to be. maybe something really can change...?

i realized you mainly asked about kriselle stuff though lol, but ultimately i think of all the Philosophy stuff as more noelle-centric, and also dess-centric because im crazy. dess being the way she is (or all the ways she's implied to have behaved, everything from the broken instruments to horror movies to survival rations) makes me think it'd be really interesting if she did have an uncharacteristic interest in philosophy and quantum physics and stuff, like sans almost lol. her just generally being kind of freakishly smart about totally random things would up her coolness factor... <- unimportant

i'd like to specifically tackle kris through a philosophical lens one of these days, but since they just like.... seem to know More about Everything regarding the prophecy and dess and Reality in General than noelle (while also not really looking to explain anything like dess might), i'd probably have to take a pretty different approach, and i'm not yet sure what conclusion i'd arrive at or what point i'd be trying to make yet... usually when i write comics and stuff, i do so with a specific point/goal in mind, even if it ends up subconscious at first before i realize what it is im writing about (like i get an idea for a scenario, and as i write it out i realize "ohh, i think this way because of this other thing, and this is what im trying to convey in the back of my head") (a lot of people & my friends dont really believe me when i say "yeah that part only came to me after i already started working on it lol" .... like guys im actually winging an embarrassingly large amount of this. but dont tell anyone) (thats not to say a lot of the Happy Accidents are meaningless or something... even if i unintentionally draw something, i probably drew it because it Just Felt Right to me, and then i end up assigning meaning to it afterwards, which is fun) (im just talking about comics now)

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