"Lucien Greaves" and The Satanic Temple have a lot to answer for
When confronted with examples of Doug âLucien Greavesâ Misickoâs pattern of reactionary words and actions over the past two decades, usually, The Satanic Templeâs sycophants offer one of a small handful of stock excuses to deflect and otherwise resist actually dealing with it.
Their most recent tack has been âLucien Greaves has changed! Actually, âThe Satanic Temple is a church for imperfect peopleâ, which is why our religion is great!ââ an excuse that exceeds parody but more seriously points to the dangers of what is now required of TSTers by way of loyalty.
And yet as we have said, âWhen it comes to The Satanic Temple, thereâs always more and itâs always worse.â
Starting February 26, the admin(s) behind The.Satanic.Wiki began releasing more clips on Twitter and Kolektiva from audio and corrected transcripts of old Internet radio shows The Satanic Templeâs co-owner Doug Misicko used to make with his friend and longtime collaborator Shane Bugbee, primarily from the incomplete audio of a show called The ABCs of the Alphabet.
This was back when Misicko was using the pseudonym âDoug Mesnerâ rather than âLucien Greavesâ as he mostly does now.
These conversationsâintended for public consumption!âare incredibly bad, but of course all context added to them makes them even worse.
Weâve censored the slurs below, but in the actual audio clips, they are presented as they were said at the time: in full and without obfuscation or shame.
âLucien Greavesâ wants to write a â[ableist r-slur] storyâ
âLucien Greavesâ on the Oklahoma City Bombing and the bad PR of killing children
âLucien Greavesâ talks about âThe Viewâ (TV show) and network [n-slurs]
âLucien Greavesâ on Black co-workers and cunnilingus
âLucien Greavesâ talks about the KKK and killing [Jewish people]
âLucien Greavesâ talks eugenics and âwho decidesâ
âLucien Greavesâ on âN-wordsâ
âLucien Greavesâ makes his case for fascism
âLucien Greavesâ really hates Detroit
The Satanic Templeâs co-owner âLucien Greavesâ on public displays of religion like Judaism and Islam
âLucien Greavesâ recalls his pilgrimage to fascist Italy
âLucien Greavesâ talks about arson and high school bullying as Nazi national anthem plays
âLucien Greavesâ on burning down churches (and temples) plus why we should nuke the âHoly Landâ
âLucien Greavesâ and the OfficeMax gay Hindu organ harvester âprank callâ story
âLucien Greavesâ on domestic abuse (he blames the victims)
âLucien Greavesâ explains the (true) importance of abortion access: âItâs not so much about dead babies as less peopleâ
The titles The Satanic Wiki gave them are fairly short, and itâs often difficult to describe fully all of what makes them terrible. For example, while Misicko is talking about arson and high school bullying, Bugbee plays the Nazi anthem along under Misickoâs story; how do you best emphasize and summarize that?
In any case, if you still have friends who are supportive or otherwise ignorant of The Satanic Temple, and they donât want to read a long article about it, any of the below clips should encapsulate quickly why these people are not to be trusted.
(For those not up to date, while these clips are from 2003-2004, the issue is that Misicko and Bugbee were close up through 2013 when Misicko tapped Bugbee to help re-launch TST after the first attempt failed, and their leaked emails and gravestone-teabagging stunt together demonstrate how little change had actually happened in that decade. More of that history here.)