#virtugenic

Virtugenic/VRgenic + flag!

A virtugenic system is "a system/headmate [...] created through virtual reality. Especially as a result of VR dissociation." This is defined as a similar process to soulbonding or charagenic systems, but specifically through VR-specific experiences &/or means.

The flag is colored in "virtual" hues as per our synesthesia, with the yellow in the middle representing the "electric" connection between VR-space and meatspace.

Variations and such under the cut, as well as the original source. We don't personally support the coiner but we think this origin term is important.

Apologies for being so very much behind on updates, stuff happened irl + I was working with her outside of VR since I couldn't get to it

I had remember you mentioned this in your last reply: "This is a really cool observation. I wonder if it will remain true or if it will sort of level out over time. I'm curious because my own memories seem stronger from when I first formed. (Of course, I was journaling then too.) I wonder if this is a common headmate thing where we tend to remember things stronger when we first form."

And it did infact level out quite a bit, I still consider her to have decent memory, but she doesn't seem to remember every little thing if they were a long time ago

I also cannot remember if I had mentioned this before, but since she tends to rely mainly on VRChat for visualizing herself and interacting, her also relies on avatars for her appearance. Meaning she doesn't really have a set appearance, she has a variety of appearances through different avatars

I asked her one day if she had any specific reason as to why she didn't stick with one avatar and switched between multiple, her response was as followed: "The internet is a wide place where you can sometimes be anything else. I think it's fun to be able to explore my options and swap between multiple appearances for different days! It's much better than being stuck to one thing!"

It took her alot of time to get used to being out of VRChat when I initially started, for now she can mainly only speak with me, she has described to me that since she's used to seeing VRChat graphics, getting used to how real life looks feels (her quote) "like an animal just learning how zero gravity works" (I believe she referenced a YouTube video I had shown her a while back)

I still have a bit of trouble with getting her to fully front either in VRChat or outside, but I'm not exactly concerned about that since she's already developed quite well in the amount of time I've been working with her, I'm not exactly in a rush

Don't worry about it! I kind of took forever getting to posting your last update anyway. We all have things going on. I'm just glad to hear from you again!

This is another fantastic update! I especially find it interesting how she reacts to existing outside of VR.

It's mostly what I might expect. I think plenty of other headmates have had trouble adjusting to the outside world when they've only existed in an inner world before.

I don't think the results are surprising... But it's cool to see it confirmed that a headmate who starts out only interacting in VR might feel this way when they are outside of it.

I hope that you two realize how awesome this actually is. Because as far as I know... This might be the first time in history a headmate has been intentionally created in virtual reality and then brought into the outside world. It is such a unique mixture of tulpamancy and modern technology as to be virtually unheard of before now.

What you are doing is actually groundbreaking!

There's no pressure, of course... But you might want to eventually consider writing a guide based on your experiences and share it with the tulpamancy community on r/tulpas and tulpa.info. There are a lot of guides on how to create tulpas out there, but I don't know of any using virtual reality the way you have.

To answer your question about the development methods, both are useful for their own things. The VR method described in the video for me helped me with trying to brainstorm her personality and how she would interact with people, while the Tulpamancy method was helpful with forming her consciousness in my own brain to where she can possibly proxy

For example, when I was trying to brainstorm her general personality, I was struggling a bit, so I had written down just a basic concept and decided to go with it to form it more, it felt like slow worldbuilding for her, although I think that once she's more formed and can front or co-front, this method would be great.

That's essentially what the VR method was for me, not a bad thing imo, having her personality slowly shape itself out with time was a lot easier on my brain

I've also found she tends to have better memory than I do, she remembers hundreds of things she's experienced in VRchat, from funny to weird to whatever, every single one she remembers, while with me I have trouble remembering anything

She's also much more bubbly and hyper than I am, and she likes to move around a lot, although bodily we are chronically ill and moving can hurt, she still likes to get us up and moving, she also knows that if I tell her I'm in too much pain, she can take a break, so she's very nice to me

I need to start this off with an apology. There have been a lot of asks I haven't gotten around to but this progress report is the one I've felt most guilty about over the past few months. I had planned on getting to this. But then our cat got sick and we had to keep him our room and look after him. And he passed within a few days. It was hard. And I felt like I couldn't post anything happy or positive during that time.

By the time I got passed it, so much time had elapsed that I didn't know how to address it, because it felt really unfair to you to not give an apology. But that meant more time passed and I kept putting it off. And more asks filled up my inbox meaning I would need to scroll further to get to this.

Anyway, I first want to say this so that you can know that the reason I didn't answer was because of my own stuff. Not because of you.

I really appreciated these progress reports and think it's cool to see how your headmate is developing. Thank you so much for sharing, and I'm sorry again that it took me this long to get to it.

I've also found she tends to have better memory than I do, she remembers hundreds of things she's experienced in VRchat, from funny to weird to whatever, every single one she remembers, while with me I have trouble remembering anything

This is a really cool observation. I wonder if it will remain true or if it will sort of level out over time. I'm curious because my own memories seem stronger from when I first formed. (Of course, I was journaling then too.) I wonder if this is a common headmate thing where we tend to remember things stronger when we first form.

I hope that these progress reports might later be useful for a guide on creating headmates through VR. Something like that would be really cool, and I don't think anyone in the tulpamancy community has made one yet.

So I started off by going into public game lobbies under a sort of persona, I started off by writing some basic traits and some likes/dislikes (these will change overtime once she gains consciousness)

I also remember in the post with the video you were talking about, it had only taken a couple days for the person to start talking about this persona as if a completely different person.

So I tried this out specifically, after each play session I would go to my friends and start talking about what happened, at first I stuck with just I/me pronouns, but eventually as I kept playing more and more, I noticed I would accidentally switch between I/me and referring to the persona as her proper name and pronouns

I've noticed also that it's pretty hard to exactly "act" (I don't wanna say act but lowkey that's what I'm doing before she fully forms) as her outside of VrChat, for example, I decided to take a bit of a break and get a drink, so I decided "hm this might be a good time to practice" so I kept trying to ask myself things like "what would she drink? How would she mix it? Does she like multiple drinks?" And overall the answers were mixed, I couldn't exactly put one answer on each question, but if I was in VrChat and someone asked her her favorite drink, she would say apple juice (I ended up drinking alot of apple juice bc of her, but apple juice is good so🤷‍♂️)

Also whenever I would log into VrChat, while standing in the blue void waiting to get into the lobby, I had a weird almost dizzy like feeling, not like the feeling u get if u get motion sickness but as if I was having to shed off my old persona and then layer on this one, it wasn't bad it didn't really affect me that much, but it was cool to notice!

She has also gained some friends on VrChat, which helps tremendously with forming her since I can use more time in private worlds and figure out how she might react to certain situations, she ended up going to a spiderman world and she thought it was pretty fun, just a bit of a struggle to figure out

Overall, in a nutshell, so far some progress has been made, but I do not think she has her own consciousness YET, I will keep working towards it tho!

This is really awesome! Thanks for sharing your results with this experiment so far!

There's a lot of really interesting stuff here!

It's cool hearing how naturally the shift in pronouns happened. Especially since you were already aware of it from the other video and were watching out for it. I would have guessed that knowing would have made it less likely for this to happen. That because you were aware that it happened with someone else, that you would be paying slightly more attention when you spoke, and so using these other pronouns would be less likely to just slip out. The fact the language change happened even when you knew that it happened to someone else and was watching for it is fascinating!

The way you describe the dizziness whenever you're in the loading screen makes me wonder if it's become a sort of trigger. If so, I'm curious what would happen when you practiced outside of VR if you took a moment, closed your eyes, and imagined going through the loading screen.

But I might not advise doing this yet. It might be better to wait until later in development and you think that she's fully conscious. If only because I am incredibly curious how a headmate who has existed primarily in virtual reality would react when fronting outside of it and what her perspective would be on the outside world.

Im a plural person / system who is a system due to virtual reality! I split with my first alter due to roleplay on both Minecraft and VRChat! Im actively on screens, especially my vr, for prolonged periods, and this caused me to become a system!

Its cool bc I saw that post a while back and I wanted to talk abt it but i decided against it out of fear of hate or anti-endo stuff lol

Yup! That was me! 😁

It's nice to meet you! 😊

Thanks for reaching reaching out and sharing! That's really cool to know! I had a message from another system who had an alter that formed this way, but you're the first case I've heard whose system could be virtugenic!

(Here's the link for any readers who missed that post):

Vrgenic anon back again, I remember I had sent you another update but I think Tumblr ate it (unsure tho,,)

If Tumblr did eat it, would it be okay if I sent it again?

Please do!

The last update that I got was when I replied to on the 20th.

https://www.tumblr.com/sophieinwonderland/764908093173841920/waaa-vrgenic-anon-back-once-again-i-decided-to?source=share