[ID: A digital drawing of Ichinose Ao from Hirano to Kagiura. He's shown from the shoulders up, looking upwards and holding a hand up to shield himself from a bright light, casting his face in shadow. One eye is visible, open wide, and his mouth is slightly open. A bright star shines above him. It is rendered in a simple lined style with cell-shading and a monochromatic blue color scheme. The artist's signature "sunnfish" is written in the bottom left. /End ID]
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bigichinosefan how do u feel about the recent hrkg chapter... ichinose giving me feelings. guy who imprinted on a game with the message to "move on" okayyyyyy bro..... I'm not seeing it.... (/silly)
āI donāt know how to move on,ā Ichinose said to the blank, unfeeling wall of his bedroom. HIS alarm had rung out a half-hour ago, clear tones, bell-like. Ichinose had dimmed the lights and felt enveloped in his presence. Then heād thought about the upcoming weeks, and graduation, and his heart hadnāt been able to settle itself, since.
ā violeta fantasy, by valdera (@aranarumei)
well, anon. first I am delighted to receive your ask and be recognized as a bigichinosefan. second I am delighted to be frequently right about everything. third I am compelled to shamelessly advertise violeta fantasy, which is an ichinose-centric fic all about that game. fourth, under the cut, a whole lot of thoughts on ichinose in this chapter:
have to start with that note, oh my... dorm manager leaving a specific note for ichinose. and giving him carte blanc on his food... that hits me right in my heart. it's such a natural extension of the whole setting alarms thing, like of course he'd still care about ichinose's health like this... I get why it'd be hard for ichinose to move on. but, like he says, he's got to graduate eventually! what a loaded choice of words. it grounds the whole thing in this idea of him as a student not being able to mature and move on. also of interesting note is ichinose saying that it can be cool to just... give your all, even if it's ultimately not affecting your final grades.
and I think all of this is very reflective of the tensions of his relationship with yanagimoto. ichinose likes him, likes him a lot, but it's also not going anywhere, and at this point it's certainly going to be harder and harder to stay in touchāhirano mentions that the dorm is pretty far away from his place, and ichinose says it's a good workout or not, but good for him or not, it's still effort, isn't it? it takes something out of you.
as you say, where is the "moving on"? ichinose is still here, for the time being. he said he'd spend 10 years in this. but he's also self-described himself as impatient, always rushing for the future. and I think his love of yanagimoto exists in this tension. knowing there is an end of it, wanting and yet not wanting to meet it... getting excited by silly things, like the character in his name... it makes you go red in the face with delight. it makes you hurt. it is so many complicated and conflicting things all at once.
I love ichinose because I have a deep love for love that is unrequited, because I think so much focus is put on that unfulfillment, and I think there is actually something very powerful to it, even when it is "incomplete". this is part of the reason why ichinose has to feature in my dating sim au. but the best way I can describe my feelings on this is actually by talking about the ending of violeta fantasy, so... spoilers!
what's it mean for a game to have the message of moving on, when ichinose clearly doesn't want to? well, I think that tension must exist within the game itself. so, within the game of violeta fantasy, ven is wracked with grief, and believes that being held to memory of his friends is useless, but... it isn't. it's wasted effort to try to bring them back, but it's never wasted effort to love them. it just doesn't mean nothing. it's important to move on, because you can't let it hold you back, but that doesn't mean discarding it, not at all. and I've never seen ichinose falter in his goals, yet. he loves love! of course he'll cherish it the best he can, while he has it. it's all there is to do...
(and, well... in 10 years, maybe he will drop it, or maybe it won't be unrequited, then...?)
impulse-posting ven from violeta fantasy bc I care abt him lots and have a couple of sketches that have either never made it to tumblr or are buried under thousands of words of commentary
updated my ao3 icon after a decade. now it's ven from violeta fantasy. you guys should read violeta fantasy. if you like ichinose you should definitely read violeta fantasy. "hey if it's about ichinose why is there a guy called ven who definitely doesn't exist in canonā" questions like this are why you should read violeta fantasy. the author does fun things like extra long commentary and art ^_^
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While I love a successful love story, yes yes yes unrequited loves! (Also handshake anti hanahaki) Loves that are tragic in their way, but also just a part of life. A part of the experiences that make up a person. I love that that's kind of the theme of your fic? What has Ichinose gone through, what was the progression of thoughts and emotions and experiences that lead to where he is now. Even if he does go on to enter a successful relationship, it's fine for that not to be his first love, for Suzuki and the dorm manager to have had such an impact on him. (Side note, loved Suzuki's "reassuring smile"!! Felt that!!)
Also the conflict!! Even if he believes what he says about moving on, does he live it out? He knows it in his head, but what about his heart? Characters can be liars, and even more often, they are just complex! It's exactly because he struggles with it that he thinks about it so much, values those concepts, will talk about it. And still do things that are in conflict with it. Would Ichinose consider himself "moving on" even?
Alsoooo, thoughts on contrasting this with Kagiura and Hirano? I think in another comment you talked about Ichinose's denial of his feelings (hunger) vs Kagiura's insatiability. And then there's Hirano who just doesn't have the same hunger that they do! (Also did I mention I love Ichinose being comfortable with Hirano because he's weird. Weird kids gotta stick together, like there really is such solidarity even when you're different brands of weird.)
ALSOOOO HANZAWA. Loved the line about Ichinose being a little disconcerted by Hanzawa, a little insecure about this first year kind of doing what he should be as dorm head, even just as a senpai. But I knowwwww Hanzawa has at least as much anxiety shoved in him as Ichinose, he is just so so good at hiding it. Just keep busy and no one will look to closely, least of all himself.
(context: weāre discussing my fic, violeta fantasy. this is part 1. part 2 is here)
scrambles in after one of the busiest weeks of my life You Will Get Your... 1.2k, it looks like. I did see your asks and then thought about making a proper Organized Post about all the violeta fantasy things again, and then I realized that would take me like a full month so I decided on the more casual route. thank you for your questions / comments, since instead of trying to write Everything I can just... do my best to address this stuff. under the cut bc this is a long answer even if it's not 2k-long.
When I first concepted this fic, the base idea was just, āI want to write an Ichinose character study.ā And what I really wanted to focus on was the unrequited love, since weād seen that Ichinose has really strong feelings about the dorm manager. And these feelings are definitely one-sidedāI suppose weāve yet to know if itās one-sided forever, but I think for now my statement holds. I think thatās nice, because I love unrequited love. it is powerful, and moving, and meaningful to me, even without any eventual happy ending. This is probably why hanahaki as a trope doesnāt agree with me⦠I donāt care for the idea that youāll die if love isnāt mutual (though the art / visuals of choking up flowers is pretty sick).
Ichinose also seems pretty closeted, which is. Another thing I wanted to work with, here, when discussing his character. Ichinose is the type of character who feels like heās living a pretty high-achieving life. heās got great grades, is working towards his dreams, and he was social enough to be the dorm head. I'm pretty sure that Hirano describes him as a chill type of guy, which is a fascinating description for someone who weāve seen get stress cramps. It made me think that Ichinose was someone with a pretty good mask. And itās not that the vibrant, nice Ichinose we see isnāt realāitās just that itās an incomplete representation of him. It fit with a lot of things I was thinking about regarding my personal experiences with being closeted.
Ichinose is someone who looks Fine on the outside, but being gay fundamentally makes it impossible for him to have a ānormalā life. Suzuki, here, is meant to represent the mundane and the average. that āreassuring smileā that Ichinose likes him for gives him a sense of belonging. Itās something that sets him at ease because it tells him, youāre not weird. Suzuki is one of the most common Japanese surnames ever, which is why I picked it for this character. Iām pretty sure this is also the reason why the love interest in Letās Love (the fake archetypal shoujo manga in Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun) is named Suzuki Saburou, so it was also a nod to that. This, by all respects, should be an āordinaryā first love. But Ichinose canāt help but be weird, because heās gay. That fact alone bars him from the side of ānormal.ā So when Suzuki later disrespects Ichinoseās favorite game, and doesnāt understand how important it is, itās a drawing of a chasm between the two. The reminder that youāre always, always going to be an outsider.
I was also really interested in the game message that Ichinose liked so much: āIf you never move on, itās all been a waste.ā I thought that concept fit really well with moving on from unrequited love, so it was a natural thing to focus on within the fic. When I thought about highlighting that, I thought itād be neat to just⦠talk about the game itself, and have that somehow parallel or echo themes in Ichinoseās life, which is exactly what happened. It was a fun framing deviceāI got to say a lot of things about Ichinose without necessarily saying them directly, which was cool.
And the message is so interesting, because itās Ichinoseās explanation. Thatās colored by his own experiences. I was kind of vague as to whether Ichinose actually moves on at the end, and thatās in part because I myself wasnāt sure. Iām glad now that I did that, considering Ichinose moved out of the dorm and is still hanging out with the dorm manager. Itās nice to see Ichinose like that, without being a nervous wreck. My interpretation, keeping canon in mind, is that internally, Ichinose has revisited the idea of āmoving onā and decided to value his in-the-moment feelings more. Violeta Fantasy (the game) doesnāt suggest that Venās feelings about his friends were wrong. Instead it (through Astra) says that they matter, but they canāt control him. So, the Ichinose that obsesses over the futility of his love and the need to move on⦠heās actually Defining himself by that relationship, isnāt he? He's letting that anguish of it, whether it's the experience of unrequital, or the desperate need to move on, control him.
So a lot of his final conclusion rests on the idea of like⦠he has to accept that love DOES feel this way. That it DOES suck. (When YOU fall in love, YOU fall.) That heās going to feel like this, and one day he wonāt feel like this, but that day is not today. (...Not yet.) And that's... fine. For someone who self-describes himself as āimpatient,ā I thought it would be really good for him to learn to live in the moment. (Close YOUR eyes. Feel the wind. YOU are not yet flying.)
Speaking of⦠contrasts with Kagiura and Hirano! As you say, I think looking at Kagiura and Ichinoseās relationship to hunger is a fun way of looking at their relationship to desire. Kagiura is insatiable, and he doesnāt ignore itāheās always snacking and he uses dinnertime as an excuse to stop studying. On the other hand, Ichinose gets so into studying that heās liable to ignore his hunger and skip entire meals. I see this as a denial of his own desire, which is reflected in my fic with how heās really insistent about the idea of moving on. As for Ichinoseās friendship with Hirano, one of my headcanons is that Ichinose was kind of a chill and relaxed roommate, despite being the dorm head, because his personal experiences with anxiety have him trying to set everyone else at ease. Itās this feeling of like, donāt look at me and see whatās wrong with me. Iām normal! Nothing to see here. This is a feeling that, in my fic, stems from his experience with Suzuki and being in the closet. Hirano is really good at living his life in his way, and I think seeing someone whoās just so unapologetically Himself would make Ichinose feel like he, too, could be a little weird, and itād be fine. (This is, after all, the guy who would later google the definition of ānormalā because he wasnāt sure what a romantic relationship was meant to be like.) Iām honestly very proud of this because like⦠Ichinose kind of gives him the allowance to be Weird later on in ch 29, so like⦠I was picking up on themes! (I think?) Ā
Hanzawaās so fun to me because it is very like⦠hello, Ichinose. Thatās you. Theyāre not the exact same, but Hanzawa definitely has his own set of masks, and I think heās said before that he keeps busy so he doesnāt get too in his head? Which feels very much like Ichinose. Also I feel like Hanzawa has his own complications with being closeted and stuff, too, which is really fun because Ichinose doesnāt actually know that about him, so he thinks heās doing fine even though they have the same issue of āoutside fine, inside Not Fine.ā I think Ichinose would also be disconcerted because of Hanzawaās Alleged Homophobia (NOT REAL. sorry I just. donāt like homophobic hanzawa statements even as jokes). Ichinose sidesteps Hanzawa really well in ch 28, actuallyānavigates the situation so heās kept in the dark about the Hirano and Kagiura hugging situation. So, I think I was correct to write him as a little wary and sensitive to Hanzawa.
Hanzawa's another character that occupies my mind like crazy, I love writing that guy. Thank you for these questions / comments! Sorry it took so long, and I will try to answer your second ask... in less time, maybe.
In junior high, Ichinose Ao does two things of note: he thinks about a boy for too long, and he sinks way too many hours into a video game.Ā
Because it's middle school, both will haunt him for the rest of his life.
@drippinginstarlight very belated, but hello!!!! i was your secret gifter for the @ssmygiftexchange... i saw that you wanted something ichinose-centric so i wrote. an entire character study about him. i have soooo much more to say about like, various details and stuff, but i think i'll leave that for later posting. for now, i just hope you enjoy it!!!