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8. How did Orin feel when your Durge was introduced into the cult as Bhal’s favourite child? Or if your Durge was already there before Orin’s birth, how did they react to the new baby?

Vat’il was already around for a hot minute before Orin was born (like. Roughly 20ish years) Having another Bhaalspawn be born is a pretty big deal (and he’s thankful for one, might it get Sceleritas off his back for not having his own kids for just a minute) and I’m sure he celebrated at the temple and made a big deal about it, but he really doesn’t interact with Orin until she’s around three years old. There is a vague part of him that acknowledges her as competition- she’s a Bhaalspawn, it’s in their nature to kill each other eventually- but he really isn’t all that worried about it. He really just leaves her to Sarevok and his murder tribunal for the most part. He has no love for small needy things and little patience to guide something that he can’t communicate with

14. Was there anything Orin and your Durge really admired about each other?

Shapeshifting abilities aside, I think Vat’il does have some appreciation for Orin’s presentation of herself. From her wardrobe to her speech patterns and the way she kills- she’s got a whole thing going, and I think every now and again Vat’il wants to be a touch more expressive than he is. Also her artistry- it has a time and place and he fully believes that she over indulges, but he can admit that she’s very good at what she does, and every now and again an over the top artsy murder is both what the cult needs and what Vat’il is in the mood for

Thank you so much for both the ask games and the ask, these questions are fantastic. I'm a sibling-haver and tragedy enjoyer, so fleshing out Bran and Orin's relationship holds a ton of appeal for me, and I answered all four (and not briefly, though I did try).

CW past this point for mentions of most of Durge's usual suspects: kidnapping, indoctrination, imprisonment, torture, desecration of corpses, suicidality, stabbing, and murder.

1.1 When did your Durge and Orin meet? What was their relationship like initially? Did their feelings towards each other change over time?

This is a scene I desperately need to write. I have their first meeting almost fully mapped out in my head, but I'll try to summarize enough backstory to make the gist of it make sense.

Bran was kidnapped into the Cult of Bhaal at 16 or 17, and they spent their first month trying to escape and refusing to kill anyone outside of duels. Bhaal wasn't willing to cut his losses, so the Tribunal decided to try desensitize them to killing indiscriminately. They put Bran in a cell with a non-Bhaalist cellmate, and when they killed them, they replaced them with a new one. It convinced him his urges were inescapable, and after months of it, Bran was entirely past his breaking point.

Orin, at 10 or 11 years old, snuck in and saw them kill their latest cellmate when Sceleritas wasn't there to witness it, and she was impressed and envious of how easy they made it look. Afterwards, Bran talked her into telling Sceleritas that he'd killed without regret and was finally ready to be let out, promising to teach her what he knew. It saved them from spending much more time imprisoned, and upon release, Bran proved themself to the Tribunal with the murder spree depicted in Blood in Baldur's Gate, which secured their freedom as well as Orin's admiration.

Their first meeting more or less tricks Orin into seeing them as a role model, which she only begins to unlearn years after the fact. On the other hand, it sets Bran up to see her as the reason they're still alive, which quickly turns into their biggest reason to keep living as they become attached to her. He begins to see her as a little sister very quickly in the process of "mentoring" her over the first few years, and he dotes on her but still keeps her at arm's length to try to avoid killing her himself. As Bran acclimated to the Cult and began climbing the ranks, she remained their favorite person there by a very wide mile, and she became more or less untouchable within the Cult because of it.

He promoted her to his second in command as soon as he'd secured his own leadership three or four years later, and almost everyone around at that time resented her deeply for it. There seems to be a ton of resentment for Orin within the Cult in-game, and I think a lot of it can be explained by Bran's favoritism/nepotism in addition to her own idiosyncrasies.

The biggest source of conflict between them is that Orin grows up and begins to see Bran for something closer to who they really are rather than as her childhood idol, but Bran never does the same. They still see her as the kid sister they loved, not an adult who is realistically their greatest threat as next-in-line. Orin's feelings change, but Bran's never do.

2.1 There's a lot of reasons Orin might want to stab Durge in the head and take their place as Chosen. If it came down to one thing, what was it? What was going through her head as she stabbed your Durge?

Orin became bitterly disillusioned with Bran as she got old enough to recognize their differences. She spent about a decade as their second in command, which gave her a lot of insight into how they ran things—functionally and efficiently, but in her view, artlessly and without enough devotion. She hated that he didn't value her artistry or her input on how to make his killings more worshipful, and that he worked with outsiders just as closely as he did with her. As their relationship with Gortash progressed, she hated watching them become willing to make more time for him. She couldn't understand why Bran still refused to let her kill Enver when she only wanted to for their own good. I HC her as aroace and sex/romance repulsed, and I think between that and her upbringing teaching her to thoroughly devalue empathy, she literally couldn't fathom why Bran cared enough not to kill him and move on, regardless of how useful he was. The fact they did frustrated and confused her for years, and she saw it as an open weakness. After years of Bran refusing to excise it, she came to the conclusion they were weak, and had to die.

Refusing her challenge was, to her, the ultimate betrayal and disrespect, and it was her last straw. She'd been picking fights (verbally) and trying to provoke Bran for weeks, and she'd been sure she'd worn him down enough for him to get past his attachment to her and finally let them fight for real. He didn't, so she no longer respected him enough to want to kill him in a fair fight. As she attacked him, she reasoned that leaving him alive was a fate even worse than death, and that it was a fate he deserved for his unworthiness.

In some ways, the duel she challenges them to in-game is her trying to fix this mistake—at first she wonders if not duelling them officially is the reason why they didn't simply become a thrall or die, and I think that despite everything she has an unconscious, grudging respect for the fact they didn't. For me, this helps explain why she goes to all the trouble she does in Act 3 rather than simply finishing the job and moving on with her life. In a way, she sees it as a chance to redeem herself for her initial failure/impulsivity and make it up to him, and it even gives Bran one last chance to redeem himself in death.

1.15 What did Orin and your Durge dislike the most about each other?

This is a fantastic question for Bran because it's so easy for me to answer: above all, they disliked Orin's zeal. He resented her because, in his eyes, she had choices that he didn't, and she chose to strive to be a perfect Bhaalist when she wasn't compelled to in the way he felt he was. He was more or less groomed to lead because his urges and his blood gave him "favorite child" status (along with a decent helping of the sunk-cost fallacy), and he resented her ambition because he largely still hated his role and was convinced she shouldn't have wanted it.

Part of the reason she does is because they did so much to raise her, but they don't like to acknowledge that she's partially a monster they created, and they don't consciously reach that conclusion until after they kill her in their in-game duel. Bran came to accept being a Bhaalist leader because their induction to the Cult convinced them they could never be anything else (other than dead), but they think she could and simply chooses not to. He sees her zeal as a waste of both freedom and potential. Killing artfully and being an assassin makes her happy, and they don't see why she isn't content with merely continuing to do that.

I don't see their view of her agency as accurate: Bran was largely raised outside the Cult of Bhaal, and Orin was immersed in it more or less from birth. Realistically, she had as little say in what she became as they did, or maybe even less, and I think on some level they might hate that most of all. Bran is subconsciously jealous that her faith is so sincere because if he was honestly a zealot like her, his life would be a lot easier.

It's also an easy question for Orin for me, because I'm inclined to take her at her word in-game, based on her notes and how I imagine Bran's behavior before they were tadpoled. She dislikes their efficiency, but the thing she hates the most is their attachments to outsiders. Things like the "slip-sliding in filth with these pigs" line feel a lot deeper than simple insults to me—she seems genuinely offended on her and Bran's behalf as Bhaalspawn. I interpret this partially as unconscious jealousy, but she also legitimately sees it as a weakness and a flaw, and that is her main motivation for attacking them.

2.15 Does your Durge keep anything to remember Orin by, after her death? Did she keep anything to remember them, after her betrayal?

Bran is very much inclined to hate the Bloodthirst dagger, but he kept it after her death rather than throwing it away like he (and most of the party) wanted himself to or even giving it to Astarion to let him put it to good use. It's a symbol of what he used to be and everything he hates about himself, despite his relative lack of memories, but he remembered just enough to care about her instinctively and deeply regret killing her. They can never bring themself to use it, but they are never able to get rid of it either.

I HC that Orin threw away or destroyed Durge's things after usurping them, as opposed to Durge living a super minimalist lifestyle or some other explanation for why they have so few possessions left. Bran's bedroom would've been coated in plants and whatever magical grow lights he'd needed to keep them alive (he grew them for poisons, but also as a druidic guilty pleasure), as well as books and alchemical supplies, at minimum, so she would've had to have gutted all of that. She didn't keep anything from Bran other than Bloodthirst, but I do think she subconsciously regretted that.

She cut off Bran's long hair when she tadpoled them, both to make it easier and out of spite, but she left their braid behind somewhere in the mind flayer colony. There are a few indications that she likes keeping trophies from people she kills (her mom and her armor off the top of my head), but I think the fact that she pivoted to leaving Bran alive would've been enough to disrupt whatever her usual ritual would be. I can't decide whether she realized that she could've gone back for it afterwards, but I kind of doubt she'd let herself if the thought had ever occurred to her because she wouldn't think Bran deserved that level of sentimentality.

By the time the impulse to get rid of their things wore off, all she had left was Stillmaker, and I am a huge fan of the HC (fannon?) idea that it was something Gortash made for Durge (I cannot find the specific post I'm thinking of, but I will link it in a reblog whenever I finally do). She deeply hated both it and their relationship, so I'd imagine that she either got rid of it/gave it up or hid it in the hole where you find it in-game after she couldn't find an easy way to break it. I can't remember/find if there was a different canonical reason it ended up there, but if this does diverge from cannon, I don't know that I'd care enough to change it.

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7. Did your Durge have any siblings in their foster family? Did they always want a sibling before meeting Orin? How does Orin compare to the foster siblings they may or may not have killed?

rue did! she had two older siblings, a sister named cela and a brother named orrian. they were quite a bit older than her so there was a biiig age difference, but she was very well loved and doted on.

being the youngest sibling in her foster family to being older than orin in the church of bhaal was a weird thing to adjust to, but for the beginning few years rue treated her like a friend more than a sibling. it isn't until rue witnesses the way bhaalspawn are treated in the church (they are bhaals flesh and blood after all, and that gives them unwanted attention sometimes) that she finds herself extremely protective over orin.

orin is younger than her, more solidified in the church of bhaal and therefore prone to jealousy more towards rue (who comes in unnanounced claiming to be the scion of bhaal) which is something rue hadnt experienced with her foster siblings. i think comparing the two is like taking a kitten from its mother and trying to introduce it to an already estabilshed cat home if that makes any sense. lots of tension and jealousy and bitter remarks about the other

10. What did your Durge really feel about Orin’s art?

rue liked that orin had a passion for it. she may not understand it fully but supported her either way.

there was a time where gortash forced told rue he wanted a portrait of her painted and while rue sat through one of the sessions she asked the painter where he got his paintbrushes from. she then told him to send a set for her and to put it on gortash's tab with the intent to gift them to orin. they were really nice quality, imported in from waterdeep. orin would have loved them.

this was at a time where their relationship was becoming strained - with rue off being busy planning the absolute takeover and orin feeling as if she was being replaced by gortash

disclaimer: haven't reached the cult of bhaal yet bc god knows i don't want to be disappointed too soon, so rn i'm writing based on what i've absorbed via osmosis

this is for default dragonborn durge. young orin was a pest in their eyes but they didn't approve of her being dead weight. they took matters into their own hands, bringing her under their wing as a pseudo-daughter figure and mentee. however, their relationship grew strained as she mutated into this bloodthirsty vermin thing, far from what they or their father intended for her to be. they disdain and adore one another equally, but it's only orin who learned to worship someone other than her father.

3. How did Orin go about taking your Durge down? Did she need to trick them? Was Durge blindsided, or did they see her betrayal coming?

easy. they never took her seriously - that was their biggest mistake, knowing it would happen and still deciding it was little threat to them, nothing more than a gnat between their scales. they loved her enough to let her sleep by their side and had built just enough faith in her love in turn to believe she would never truly dispose of them. she knew her place. they nearly believed she'd come to accept it; they never realized the sharpness of her desires would push her to be rid of them for good, and she never came to terms with her own deeper motives for it - that while their sire's approval was just beyond her reach, nonetheless attainable through worship (kin-slaughter), the expectations of her blood-kin would always be fragmented, a mirror reflecting back at her all the ways in which she could have been more and yet was not allowed to be. they don't want to become attainable to her, they don't want her to be more. this wasn't out of any sentiments of mercy or acceptance of her being, but rather because they need her to stay this small wriggling thing nipping harmlessly at their tail - that was when they loved her best. for her to worship them would be to forsake her own devotion to their sire, to be Chosen to them rather than to bhaal. who wouldn't cry blasphemy at that?

17. Did your Durge know Sarevok hoped they’d have children with Orin? How do they feel about that whole situation?

they knew, and they were displeased. mostly because she was a rat, unfit for heirs, unfit for motherhood, unfit for anything except to be molded and disciplined and sheltered. they never desired one another physically but there was still some form of desire present, and visceral physicality was the only expression for intimacy available to those of the cult. they're people of the body, meat-eaters. flesh eats flesh. only she was unfit to be eaten as well. it was a bridge they were planning to cross - or burn - when they got to it; they found excuses not to raise the subject but still kept her close, paradoxically shielding her with their own body, the thing that's supposed to use her.

for her part orin wasn't down for that brood mother shit in the slightest lmfao - on some level she thinks of herself as their daughter and would probably envy her own brats. hyper advanced 5D abortion.

24. How does your Durge feel when they learn that Orin betrayed them and was responsible for their brain damage and tadpoling? Do they consider it a betrayal at all?

mostly just damn was i stupid? also post-reformation durge realizes just how enmeshed they were and how orin probably should have been the one to escape it, not them. they lose sleep about it

thank you sm for the asks! needed an excuse to think about them for a while ^_^ have a little prose snippet of them when orin was younger for good measure, it's halloween:

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6. Does your Durge consider Orin a sibling? Do they think of her as family at all?

Pre-tadpole no. Post-tadpole no. Post-fighting Orin, yes. Which is very odd for my Durjh, because they've very very much shed their past identity as an aspect of themself. They know that some people see their past self and their present self as parts of the same but they do not, and they have a very strong reaction when people try to use, say, some kind of tie to their past self to try to have sway over their present self. They reject that: they are not their past self, so the ties of their past self do not bind them.

Pre-tadpole they were Blood-kin and competing to be Bhaal's bestest baby (at least until Durjh took the lead entirely) so I think the best way of describing it would be family but not siblings. After Durjh developed the plan and started working with Gortash and Ketheric the distance only grew.

But with what they find out about Orin, with the fact that Orin spent her life in the cult and was denied any chance to see who she might be beyond that, with how, when presented with the facts of her history, Bhaal overrode her will and forced her to Slayer up regardless... yeah, Durjh feels a deeply fucked up twisted kinship with Orin. They, like Orin, have had their will overridden because Bhaal wants a murder done in his honour. They, like Orin, were denied much outside the cult - in their case because the Urge rose up and they killed their parents. And by this point, Durjh has a deep belief in the right of people to choose their own paths - they've seen how being controlled and denied that choice has hurt their friends. So they are deeply indignant on Orin's behalf. They feel deeply sorry for her and wish she could have had a chance, as she gave them, to be otherwise. They are very aware they are possibly the only person to grieve her when she's dead.

So yes. Pre-tadpole they're family but not siblings, to Durjh's perspective. Post-tadpole they have their weird lingering disgust-hatred of her.

And then they find out about her mother-sister, and see her denied choice, and even as they fight her, they wish they could fight Bhaal. Because very suddenly they see a very close point of connection between them, right at the point they can no longer do anything but kill her. And they hate it.

While my Durjh does not want to have kids, if they ever adopted a kid, they would offer them "Orin" as a possible name, due to a ... somewhat childish desire to give Orin another chance? To let her live again, outside the cult. To give her the fresh chance that she gave them. To, by proxy, give her a fresh start.

Orin, of course, would probably find this rather patronising and awful if she knew. It is probably for the best that she never has the chance.

14. Was there anything Orin and your Durge really admired about each other?

I think Orin admired Durjh's single-minded ruthlessness. You know that Animorphs quote about ruthlessness? This one:

"People don’t understand the word ruthless. They think it means ‘mean.’ It’s not about being mean. It’s about seeing the bright, clear line that leads from A to B. The line that goes from motive to means. Beginning to end. It’s about seeing that bright, clear line and not caring about anything but the beautiful fact that you can see the solution. Not caring about anything else but the perfection of it." - Marco, Book #30: The Reunion, pg. 71 (by K.A. Applegate)

That's Durjh pre-tadpole. A little post-tadpole too, but in a different direction. But pre-tadpole, this is very much Durjh and I think Orin respected that utter, perfect drive. I think she was disappointed by the simplicity of their murders and I think she... hm. I do think she envied how easy of a time Durjh had in getting Bhaal's attention? She went to such elaborate extents for a drop of Bhaal's attention and Durjh could knife someone in an alley and get a pat on the head. Bhaal playing blatant favourites. But, in turn, I think she did see where Durjh's utter ruthlessness served a purpose and I think she admired their perfect precision of it - as long as it wasn't pointed at her.

Meanwhile... I think Durjh did admire Orin's ability to plan, even if they found what she planned for deeply frustrating. I tend to think of Durjh as... kind of a complete disaster? My headcanon runs that they were largely normal until puberty, when the Urge kicked in and I think they were horrified when they murdered their parents - but not horrified that they had. Horrified by how easy it was, horrified by the fact they didn't feel guilty. And I think that, that realisation of how easily and remorselessly they could kill, I think that fucked them up deeply, because up until that point, they'd been a normal kid, with normal expectations. And now their parents are dead by their hands and they don't feel guilt and they know they should feel guilt, they've felt guilt over other things they've done wrong, why don't they feel ashamed of this, why does murder feel right-

I think they followed Sceleritas because they were at a complete loss. I think they murdered because it was one thing which conclusively felt right. I think they planned to murder the world because if the world was dead, no one else would ever have to know that they murdered the parents they loved and felt no guilt over it. I think it was that singular focus because they had to find something to hold onto, a clear light to follow, because otherwise they'd wander off the tide-washed causeway and into deep water and drown. I think, until they had that murder the world plan, there were times when they struggled. But... what else did they have? They'd murdered their parents. They'd murdered so many. So they doubled down. They can't go back. They must go forward.

(Thoughts which post-tadpole Durjh echoes.)

And then there's Orin, and her joy in murder. I think that re-contextualised some things for them, and, just as there were times they struggled, I think Orin's joy was it's own lighthouse to them and gave them some good days too.

I think, on some level, they liked having her as second, because she found wholeness in the chasm they'd thrown themself into for lack of anything else. They were plummeting, occasionally finding points of light or rocks to adjust trajectory from, while she was flying, free and happy. And if they could grasp onto her, keep her joy close, maybe that could be a way out of the pit. Maybe, some brief times or when they were in the pits, they could inhabit her joy instead of their own empty, utter purpose. I think they were exasperated by what she chose to plan for, and I think their admiration of her joy didn't stop them from wishing she'd be more efficient and less elaborate - but I think her joy was a shining star to them, and something they dearly wished they could have or knew how to find. To pre-tadpole Durjh, murder was peace, it was purpose, but it wasn't joy.

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2: What was their relationship with Orin like immediately before the tadpole lobotomy? Was Orin sure in her decision, or did she regret what she was going to do?

Dirge and Orin had a close sibling relationship that had since soured over the years as Dirge pulled ahead in influence and Orin felt left behind. Immediately before the tadpole lobotomy, their relationship had degenerated into frequent bickering that constantly threatened to escalate, and Dirge had taken to leaving her in charge of the Temple more and more often for longer and longer durations as he worked on the Absolute plot and steadily failed at holding off an oncoming mental breakdown. Orin felt increasingly frustrated as she was handed more and more responsibility with no changes in acknowledgement or respect, which then fermented into disdain and bubbling rage with no clear outlet.

Unaware that her isolation and ostracization was Dirge's attempt to protect her from feeling the wrath of Bhaal's full attention, she confronts Dirge in Moonrise, which escalates when Dirge turns to leave the argument entirely, and Orin's rage at feeling snubbed crystalizes into radical action as she impulsively snatches a dagger and stabs him while his back is turned. It was an impulsive, reckless decision born of [word], the tadpoling an act of spite to hammer home her victory over him, and she regretted it immediately. She had wanted to kill him, of course, many many times. But that desire stayed an ephemeral concept, beyond the pleas for a proper duel to elevate her as favored spawn and honor her status as bloodkin. She hadn't planned to do this to him. And he didn't die. He just laid there, bleeding and shuddering and cold and silent, and she had rid herself of her only brother forever, and there was no fixing it. In 7 days that parasite would chew through his brain and burst out of his skin as a newborn illithid. She had doomed him and hadn't even done him the favor of a quick death.

Orin's feelings were complicated and intense, guilt and regret and rage and sorrow, that she forced herself to bury under pragmatism as she dragged Dirge's body to where Kressa would find him. Afterwards she retroactively justified to herself, and sitting with the consequences as Bhaal's new Chosen made her retreat deeper into hatred and malice as a way of coping. She always hated him, actually, and had planned to betray him, obviously, and she wanted to make mockery of him and humiliate him for his pride and arrogance. In reality, during the betrayal itself, she was stressed, lonely, isolated, reactive. She was guilty and full of regret, because all Orin wanted was to feel like his equal, like she used to when they were kids. She wanted him to look up to her again, wanted to feel important, wanted, and couldn't understand why there was this sudden gap between them that only seemed to grow. Of course she regretted it in that moment. Of course she couldn't allow herself to mourn. All she had left was Bhaal and Sarevok then. She had to make it count. She had to be worth it.

5: Does your Durge regret Orin’s death? Would they have saved her, if it were possible? Did they find a way to do so anyway?

Orin's death is Dirge's biggest regret. He would have saved her in a heartbeat if it was possible, and stumbled through the consequences gladly, for the chance to free her from that hellish place. Minthara had been traumatized by her, scarred by her, then kidnapped again by her, and even though Minthara is the love of Dirge's life, Orin was his sister. It didn't matter to him that she wasn't as pure blooded as him, or even Sarevok. It didn't matter that she betrayed and tadpoled him. Orin freed him from the Cult, and he remembers what that means now. Thats his SISTER, the only one he's ever had, and she can face whatever comeuppance she has coming out of this place, out of the temple, away from Him. They'll fight each other to the death, he'll give her the duel she wants just... for her, or for Minthara, for anyone, anything, anyone but Bhaal. It isn't fair that he got to have friends and find love and feel the sun on his back and see the mountains while shes been trapped by duty in a box sealed under the world for the sake of a god that hates her. It isn't fair that he has so much love and she doesn't have anyone, when he doesn't even deserve it. He never earned his second chance, but he got one anyways. It isn't fair. Why does he get to be okay and have a happy ending but she gets chewed up and swallowed? What's the difference between them? Isn't it just luck? Why does Bhaal have to take this too? Why does Bhaal have to force her into the Slayer, why does Bhaal have to find a way to take everything from Dirge just because he can, why does Orin have to be collateral damage in Bhaal's crusade to reensnare him? Why didn't anyone love Orin like he does?

Her death sits hollow in his chest, and it isn't just because he died and came back after either. It was a pointless cruel thing, that brought no relief or catharsis to anyone. Minthara finds no justice in Orin's death, and Dirge feels no burdens lift. Only regret. Only sorrow. Only tragedy. If he ever found a way to right the scales and bring her back, just to give her the chance to live without Bhaal's yoke, to breathe and laugh and suffer and cry and live, he'd do it. He'd hesitate, thinking of Minthara and his loved ones, but he'd do it anyways. Orin's family, she deserved to die knowing she had that, and she didn't. If he could make the world just that touch more fair, it'd be worth it.

16. Bribing or threats, which is their preferred method?

Threats!! Combined with heavy doses of mind fuckery — saying one thing aloud, another thing in your mind. If you don't comply with what Tavaris wants? They can wind their way into your mind, find ways to make you bend before them. Honestly, it's a surprise they didn't try the tadpole thing sooner, it was already their M.O.

Post-tadpole? Threatening or finding ways to convince people otherwise. Bribes are not their thing unless absolutely necessary. She's just very niceys and doesn't want to hurt people :( She's trying her best

60. Their most treasured memory with Orin? Why do they treasure it? Love, spite, sibling rivalry win?

That's a very loaded question for Tavaris for a number of reasons, but their favorite is probably something no one else would think of: just a moment when the two of them agreed on a plan to work on some murder. Just a time when they were on the same wavelength, hurting someone together, the thing they could always connect on. She treasures the way she felt connected to Orin in that moment, and wishes it could have lasted.

89. What's the easiest way to piss them off? Interrupt them when they're focused, wake them from a nap, ignore them?

Pre-tadpole: being dumb. By that I mean, being ignorant or undermining their plans in some way. Being unwilling to change, misunderstanding their goals. Tavaris is single-mindedly focused on their goals: if you can't see the long game, if you undermine their work? Good luck bud.