What's your name? Kyle Reese. Grace.

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What's your name? Kyle Reese. Grace.

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In Terminator: Dark Fate, Graceâs body isâŚ
Terminator: Dark Fate screams with queer tension, fueled by the Augmented supersoldier, Grace.
Graceâs body and its abilities are the reason sheâs in the movie. The fraught, intense relationships around her are all given narrative weight because of her body. Grace is a tall, androgynous woman, a supersoldier from 2042, crashing a story set in 2020. She is preternaturally strong thanks to cybernetic augmentation. Her queer body and in-between identity create a tug of war between the filmmakersâ worldbuilding and the actorsâ presentation.
For the filmmakers, Graceâs body is a problem. For T:DFâs other protagonists, Dani and Sarah, Graceâs body needs to be rescued, among other complications. Through the lens of robot action, Grace blurs gender, sex, and death. It takes the movieâs double-layered ending â and Terminatorâs longer-term worldbuilding â to fully resolve Grace. For Graceâs queer body is perfectly in line with Terminatorâs canonical future.
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@soccersquirrel says
I work in manufacturing and non-employees have to wear vests and other gear to signal to employees that theyâre guests and have not gotten the safety trainings. Â And the empty head is to hold the polymimetic alloy.Â
Cool! Did not know that about factories, so thank you for pointing that out. Any ideas about what the dude on the bicycle is doing in the background?
And youâre right, all that polymimetic alloy has to go somewhere on the REV-9âs chassis...
....which raises the new and terrifying question of where the brain--or functional equivalent--is located on the chassis. How exactly is it synchronizing with the polymimetic alloy bits so they can double-team Our Heroes? Is the REV-9 two Terminators in one--fitting from an AI called Legion--or is it one consciousness with multiple bodies? And to what extent is this REV-9 separate from Legion itself??
(thank you, Dark Fate, for offering up even more nightmare fuel for me to contemplate)
one last mini-round on tscc - time travel edition!
Iâve been thinking about the fact that when future!john sends people and cyborgs into the past, heâs killing the version of himself that exists to save a new john for the future. sometimes the goal is to change the future (as with the resistance cell) and sometimes the goal is to keep the future (as with sending kyle back in the first place) - but every time, he at least risks destroying the version of himself to save another john for the human resistance. now, pile that on top of our john jumping forward in time twice - first in the pilot and then the finale *rubs temples* our john is rewriting johnâs past in a wholly different way, to the point that our john actually disappears himself from the future by joining it.
so now, hereâs a new fear unlocked: what if john and cameron are in different timelines after the finale time jump?! cameron jumped first while john was in the past, and could theoretically be tied to a future!john timeline that is then destroyed when john then jumps over his own future. is he even in the same timeline with her?!?!?! will she recognize him in the future?!?! why did my brain come up with this one?!
no deep thoughts, just one fear!!! as someone who is very fond of john connor, itâs wild to think about him destroying himself to save another version of himself, and to think of our john specifically undoing the work of all future!johns.
this scene in TSCC 2.17 âourselves aloneâ jumped out at me on this rewatch, in contrast to a S1 scene:
cameron: what are you doing? john: I'm looking up a restaurant address. cameron: are you hungry? john: yeah. but this is actually for derek. [scene snip] cameron: I'll make you a sandwich. john: wait. why? cameron: you're hungry. john: why don't we let hungry be my problem? cameron: sometimes it's nice to have help. john: how's the hand? cameron: [flexing her hand] not a problem. john: aren't you supposed to be really good at self-repair? [cameron nods] but sometimes it's nice to have help. well, I'll make my own sandwich.

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sarah and johnâs conflict over cameron in tscc
there are two cases in S2 where john gets angry at sarah, by which I mean he actually has an angry outburst. john - as a rule - is very emotionally controlled. even when heâs feeling intense emotions, including anger, he is studiously controlled and uses his emotions to achieve a systematic goal. but there are two cases where his anger actually gets away from him with sarah, even if for just a brief moment: in 2.01 âsamson and delilahâ and in 2.18 âtoday is the day - part 1â˛. both scenes involve john and sarah facing each other across a table, and both scenes involve the subject of cameron being a âproblemâ
I always find it disconcerting when Iâm watching riley and john on tscc because there is a major disconnect between what the text says they are and what the delivery looks like. the text says that riley is johnâs girlfriend and that riley is on a mission - but just like the mission isnât what it said on the tin, I get very weird vibes off of riley and john versus what the text is telling me they are. jesse wants riley to be one thing, john thinks riley is another, but none of that aligns with what riley wants for herself - how she sees herself - or her actual role in the text.
rileyâs relationships with john and jesse
Iâve written about this a few other times but: it really doesnât seem like john and riley are together-together for a long time! a stark example of this is that their first onscreen kiss doesnât happen until 2.11 âself made manâ after john picks riley up from the party, but this is well after the trip to mexico where they share the honeymoon suite (2.08 âmr. ferguson is ill todayâ) and long long after they first start hanging out (2.02 âautomatic for the peopleâ). itâs also their only onscreen kiss. 2.11 was directed by a woman (holly dale) and I half-wonder if in true carrie fisher-style she was like âthis is really weird, Iâm going to confirm these two kids are dating onscreenâ but then every director after her just didnât do anything with it. itâs always been straight-up bizarre to me that john and riley are sharing the honeymoon suite in 2.08 but they barely touch each other. this actually makes perfect sense for the characters - neither john nor riley are what you might call well-adapted to trust or physical contact from new people - but the setting really throws their physical awkwardness around each other into stark relief. neither of them are acting like teenagers who really dig each other and want to sneak off together, and though - obviously - thereâs nothing wrong with that, it clashes with the text - and what jesse wants riley to be doing for the mission.
looking closer, the very first scene we get with riley and jesse features riley trying to get out of dating john:
riley: there's a lot of mirrors in this world. did you notice that? I don't think I can do this anymore. I'm sorry. jesse: it's not easy, I understand. maybe you even have some real feelings for him. who wouldn't? he's john connor. there's a reason people follow him all over hell. riley: well, what if I want out? jesse: how would you do that? where would you go? there is no out. you can do this. you have to do this.
I donât think riley ever declares that she loves john the way jesse describes it. sheâs loyal to him - both in 2.03 âthe mousetrapâ and then in 2.08 âmr. ferguson is ill todayâ - and brave as hell to boot, but she doesnât seem like a girl with a crush. and when you think about it, there are a lot of reasons why that could be. to riley, john connor was a guy in his 30s-40s while she was a teenager in the tunnels, the leader who was running the human resistance and about as far from accessibly human as possible. I think itâs possible that riley in-text could actually be older than john and see him less as a romantic partner than jesse expects, especially when sheâs also trying to also âdo the missionâ. and then thereâs the elephant in the room, which is that - despite that I donât think riley is generally written as a queer woman - she canonically tells jesse she loves her and suggests they live together instead. in 2.13 âearthlings welcome hereâ she makes this speech:
âI need someone to talk to. I need you. I was thinking, instead of just getting another foster home, that maybe we could find someplace close together. like an apartment or something. I'll just tell john that I quit school, and we can be together.â
and then - with grief as the open wound in 2.17 âourselves aloneâ, riley bursts out with âI trusted you! I loved you!â I think jesse reads all of this as riley wanting a mom (in 2.13 she replied with âI am not your friend. I am not your mother. and you are here to keep john connor away from her. go finish your job. go.â), but I donât get the sense that riley wants a mom at all. she wants a partner, someone who she can talk to and who understands her, and that very much is not john - because as soon as john knows who she is, she becomes a pawn in jesse and johnâs chess game. she and john have that incredible, iconic, grievous final exchange in 2.17 where neither of them decide to tell the other what they know, which is less a break-up than a showdown. after all, jesse brought her back as a pawn to be sacrificed - a soldier, but a pawn all the same. that said - riley begins to question her role as soon as sheâs inhabiting it!
riley: why did you pick me? I always wanted to ask. jesse: but you never have. riley: I thought you would tell me when the time was right. I think the time is right. jesse: no, sweetie. the time's past.
but even as a pawn, riley challenges the rules of the game that both jesse and john are playing, right up to the end.
riley as infiltrator, soldier, agent
by the time riley dies, cameronâs behavior is definitely in the âunreliableâ category: sheâs tried to kill john, sheâs glitched badly as allison from palmdale, her hardware is breaking down after all her fights with terminators, and sheâs really lost her grip on playing the role of johnâs sister and behaves more like someone in a romantic relationship. cameronâs relationship with john is romantic at this point, albeit in their own way, but cameron is supposed to be very good at pretending. after all, she enters johnâs life as an infiltrator twice: first as the terminator impersonating allison from palmdale, and second in the pilot episode where she pretends to be a girl at johnâs school who likes him. weirdly - very weirdly - this is the exact entry point that jesse chooses for riley. both cameron and riley enter johnâs teenage life as the girl from school who likes the weird kid. john himself says this to cameron in the pilot:
âyou needed to get close to me. it's just the way you're programmed. like some hot girl is really gonna try and make friends with the new weird kid. if I'd have thought about it, I would've known something was messed up, you know?â
all this to say, it almost looks like jesse could have gotten away with her plan, and that cameron might finally have glitched enough to kill riley - but itâs interesting because of how much cameron and riley mirror each other along the way. the mirroring between cameron and riley comes full circle with cameron impersonating riley over the phone, first to rileyâs foster dad and then to john himself. the second part is the really weird part, the part that pisses john off, and the part that prompts him to go check rileyâs body at the morgue. but as much as cameron looks like sheâs trying to take rileyâs place in the narrative as âjohnâs girlfriendâ (#notagirl), riley mirrored cameronâs place in the narrative, the place ~she might have had~ if cromartie hadnât shown up. itâs a lot of mirroring! but itâs not a role that riley wants to inhabit. sheâs not really a soldier - but she is a survivor. she had to be, by herself in those tunnels. who was she before jesse scooped her up and ~brought her to paradise?
these narrative tricks and tools are leading to one place: rileyâs death. there is no shine or veneer to it; jesse wants to fridge riley. she wants cameron to kill riley and for john to be so reshaped by his grief that he swears off trusting or working with reprogrammed terminators for good. but - but! - the narrative rejects that approach! riley rejects her place in the narrative! john doesnât accept his role either! more importantly, the narrative gives riley agency in her own death, in understanding (realizing) the story sheâs in, and even with her death, she becomes more than just another fridged woman for johnâs manpain. in the end, itâs human relationships, not terminators, in where the real danger lies. thatâs where it always lies. for whatever riley was before, it was the human relationships she had - with jesse and with john - that got her killed, and not the scary robot living in the house. and whatever else we know or donât know about the timeline of when john found out that jesse and riley were working together, we know that as soon as riley figures out what jesse had planned, she acted on it - just like john would. just like jesse would. just like sarah would. just like we would.
I started thinking about gender identity in the sarah connor chronicles, not for the first time. the show questions gender and its role at its core because one of the main characters is an agender cybernetic organism who - in the series finale - moves from a female to a male chassey. I tend to think about gender in this show in an abstract way and then move on almost unconsciously because it feels like a case of âstill waters run deepâ. the questioning is always there, it always matters, but because itâs so constant, it rarely pushes itself to the forefront in a way that forces your conscious attention. the main exception to this rule is 2.13 âearthlings welcome hereâ with the introduction of a trans (or at least gender fluid) woman, eileen/alan park/abraham.
but tscc knows that it is challenging notions of gender from the start in S1, and it does so explicitly.