#tbz analysis

its an intp with classic entp enneagram fixes

(person who talked about intp w/ entp enneagram)

the general consensus is that jae is a 7w8 

(i have not looked super far i am going off of other peoples information but it feels correct)

argue all u want on the fixes but core is gonna be 7w8

its not uncommon for an INTP to have a 7 core

a wing 8 would make the 7 a little more daring and outgoing than your average 7w6

it would also make an INTP look closer to the ENTP stereotype

also please keep in mind that we see him around his members most of the time and all XNTPs become 10x more social and comfortable around close friends than in a new situation

remember that both ENTPs and INTPs have Fe/Si (opposite orders) as tertiary and inferior

when thrown into a completely new situation both of them have to get a sense of what is going on before doing anything else

for me its pushing until i hit a wall and going “great! now i know where the wall is” and i can avoid it from then on

it may come off as blunt and inappropriate but really we just have 0 clue whats going on until you give us a little time

once you get us in our element engaged in something we find interesting we won’t shut up 

i’m using “we” referencing ENTP/INTPs because they do share some fundamental similarities

so assuming hes a 7w8 it would make sense for him to be a little bit more outgoing than your average intp, and considering the amount of time he spends around his members it would also make sense for him to be more comfortable in the environment that he’s super familiar with

overdeveloping an inferior function

sometimes people end up with a really strong tertiary function or super super overdeveloped inferior function

hyunjae is an idol

his fe had to develop faster otherwise PR would be a nightmare and it would just be overall problematic

its the same premise when female ENTPs almost always have more developed Fe than male ENTPs, especially when they’re younger

because females are expected to be more emotional and empathetic than men (fuck you society but aneyway) female entps get exposed to “needing” Fe a lot earlier in life

no you don’t have to develop it, but most of the time its easier to put on a Fe mask and chameleon your way through a situation than fight every dumbass who underestimates you and doesn’t have a brain

“you catch more flies with honey” bullshit

pain in the ass but society dictates...

move on before you go on ur what society expects from females rant girl

where was this going? right

given the circumstances it would make sense for hyunjae to develop his Fe in a way that many INTPs wouldn’t

speaking from my own perspective, XNTPs are able to fit in anywhere because they learned real early that their “normal” behavior was not acceptable, societal or otherwise

without sounding egotistical, the world was not made for XNTPs to function in

our entire society could be categorized as XSXJ

people living in the literal world, in the moment, and people wanting structure and planning 

that made 0 sense oh whell

you get a better idea when looking at the cognitive functions

the bottom two are Fe/Si or Si/Fe 

XNTPS need context for anything to make an ounce of sense

whether it be with people or situations

if we haven’t experienced a situation before (even a moderately similar one doesn’t help that much) its fucking stressful cause Ne/Ti is running around on a four-wheeler with torches and a blindfold on with Si and Fe frantically trying to put up bumpers before they hit something (ie fuck something up or do something “inappropriate”)

as an idol you have to be very careful with your image

say what you might about whether they should be judged harshly etc etc but its just facts

one wrong move could cause a scandal, hatred towards your group

with that on the line, you naturally are going to be more conscientious about your image, your actions towards people, how others see you

the biggest argument for ENTP is his developed Fe

but as someone whos sitting with a really forcibly developed inferior Si?

all the other information combined makes me say INTP

personal anecdote here:

at 19 entps aren’t usually dealing with Fe that well, let alone Si

but for me, a situation came around that made me develop Si

it was literally: take care of your body, manage your time, fucking feed yourself 

or stop living your life in any functioning manner

you know what i chose

so now i’ve got a (relatively speaking to the normal ENTP growth path) overdeveloped Si 

its still not great, but it sure is a hell of a lot better than before my life hit the fan

with a career on the line?

you develop that damn Fe lol

sidetracking a little into enneagram territory but it applies here

hyunjae has a SP/SO instinctual stack (more below)

tldr is that hes selfish with his time but also wants to take care of the group around him

for context i’m a SP/SX 8w7

you put SP/SO together and you’re trying to maintain the harmony of the group 1. because you want to and 2. because a harmonious group is less work for you to try and fix every problem that pops up

you would not believe the lengths i will go to to avoid extra interpersonal work

i kid you not i will actively attempt to prevent a problem from happening by steering the conversation or lightly planting ideas when talking to people

to the point that (i admit) it might be more work than if i just let the damn thing play out

because despite my dislike of feelings (and people sometimes) that Fe decides to stick its head out and make me feel morally responsible to do something about the problem

quite annoying when i’ve got other problems going on

as much as i’m sure hyunjae cares deeply about his members, at least a small part of him is doing it because it literally just causes fewer problems to deal with it then than in the future

like *ah, i can tell them to be careful of their image rn and avoid press and the emotional turmoil that will follow later*

that kind of thing

citing that tertiary Si

as stated earlier, the most convincing argument for him being a ENTP is his developed Fe

on the flip side, not being able to find a tertiary Si

i’ll make this argument the most with Ni, but introverted functions are, by nature, harder to spot

the energy goes inwards not outwards, one of the biggest gripes that i have with people is (i’m an entp if you haven’t figure it out) that they underestimate my Ti

when i’m around people i’m using that Ne/Fe

Ne’s spewing off crazy ideas and Fe is a carefree child getting excited by Ne’s suggestion to get ice cream at 2am

they don’t see the Ti

(listen, i would love to nOt use personal anecdotes but i have no other way to explain the mess of connections in my head so you’re welcome)

the most obvious Si to me is his love of iron man

the dude LOVES iron man, and we love him for it

but entps don’t get attached easily

to this day i don’t have a “quote” to live by or favorite movie

him latching on to a character and having it inspire him since he was a child points towards a tertiary, rather than inferior Si

child being the key word there

the only way that my Si manifests when it comes to being sentimental/holding on to the past is with tangible things 

my favorite type of sushi, the brand of pens i’ve used for years, the coffee drink that i order at every single shop no matter what (oops)

i said earlier that my Si was developed, it is, but it was such a conscious decision and awareness for me to do so

it doesn’t change the fact that it’s an inferior function for me

hyunjae is very open about his love for iron man, hes attached to past things and ideas

they bring him comfort and inspiration

i believe hyunjae said thank you for inspiring him since he was 7/8?

and entp wouldn’t be using Si like that so young, but an intp? that’s a different story

enneagram instinctual variants/stacking

jae has a SP/SO instinctual stack

i’m not even going to put a disclaimer cause hes textbook tbh

what happens with an SP first instinct is that you are so incredibly stringent with your time and resources

sometimes this gets over-written when in an especially good mental state or when the SP feels they have enough resources

but in general its a “me first, i’ll deal with you people later”

you know those air masks that airplanes have and the “if you have a child secure ur own mask before helping them”

same premise

in a SPs head their wellbeing is more important than others because if they aren’t functioning then how the hell are they supposed to help other people

even a super introverted ENTP (i’m talking about energy wise not cognitive functions) SP instinct or not, is going to be as quiet and, dare i say awkward/uncomfortable in social situation the way that i’ve seen hyunjae be

anecdotal evidence

i have never met an entp that would describe themselves as shy

ambivert? maybe

introverted? also maybe

but shy isn’t usually in the repertoire 

this person (here)

said that they have never seen an ENTP look as out of place as hyunjae does sometimes, and honestly? i would have to agree

with his members the Fe is blatantly obvious

but you put him in a new situation?

hes not reading people and opening up like an ENTP would

you give an ENTP about 30 mins and a conversation in any environment they’re gonna be talking to the person about their wedding and three dogs

hyunjae just... doesn’t do that? 

in the millennial video jae says that hes the one who will stand up for someone

sometimes to the point of it being detrimental to him

real talk? a SP ENTP would not be doing that most of the time

because it better be a real big thing for me to actively put myself in a bad position for you because then its more work for me personally

Si in the tertiary spot does the same thing that Fe in an entp does

it goes “i know what to do, but the question is will i chose to”

sacrificing his own comfort for someone else’s is both growth in Si (being pushed out of comfort zone causes growth) and also a misuse if it causes him to neglect his own needs

he said that one of his problems is being too blunt and his words being taken the wrong way 

entps are calculated

tertiary Fe means that they’re very liable to misuse it (ie manipulate and lie their asses off for fun, which granted, is entertaining sometimes)

when an ENTP decides to say something blunt they know the general outcome of their words

how it might be taken, what will happen afterwards

in essence “you have to know the rules to break the rules”

and damn is that true

when an entp says something rude (or even something that could be perceived as rude 8/10 for this one lol) 9/10 times its so fucking intentional

like i cannot emphasize how intentional those decisions are

if we’re even somewhat familiar with the person involved we know what buttons to press and which ones not to

its when we make the conscious decision to press the button 

last one here

you know that tiktok dance challenge for cosmo?

the dude is SHY 

i do believe that he hunches over when his turn is done and attempts to avoid eye contact with everyone lol

during the group dance he legitimately stands behind juyeon, doesn’t dance, and then shuffles back off camera

its really an argument against tert Fe here because when put in an uncomfortable positions ENTPs will usually push it off with sarcasm/use Fe to show their discomfort

their feeling goes outwards towards other people while jae doesn’t do the *pushing vibes off self into the room* thing that i’ve found to be common with entps

wheww that was a lot

so have an analysis that nobody asked for… i spent so much time watching hyunjae today and i have no regrets

tbh i really do respect him as a person and this is all speculative/what i’ve deduced from information

quick reminder that this is all for fun and entertainment, and the reality is we don’t know our idols in real life ! !

any time that an idol chooses to open up is a real gift, especially because they don’t have to. they do it as a gift to fans.

i’ll write a long ass thing later about me speaking in definitives but always having the understanding and belief that it is my opinion and not fact

ie when i talk about astrology but don’t even know where i stand on belief but i do use it as a method to categorize and understand people

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hope you enjoyed

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