#tangled speculation

hot takes and plot ideas on Eugene and his royal heritage being significant to how he ended up as a thief...because the brainworms are wriggling again

It’s hard to tell, because Quirin really didn’t get enough screentime to properly gage his reaction to Varian’s actions. However, it’s important to remember that Quirin had a whole lot of secrets himself to admit to his son. (ex: the brotherhood and his past dealings with the rocks) You can make the argument that it’s because Quirin never told him about his past, that Varian couldn’t grasp just how severe and dangerous the rocks truly were, leading Varian to act recklessly trying to get rid of them.

In all honesty, I feel like Quirin should be more upset about the fact that his son was abandoned by the kingdom and was forced to do something drastic just to have the royal family’s attention. Like, Quirin kept the king’s secret behind why the rocks were there, and what does he get in return? He hears that his son was vilified because Frederic refused to take responsibility for his actions.

Of course, there is the fact that Quirin showed some shame for Varian’s actions in the past and honestly his shame is lowkey justified with how reckless Varian was with his alchemy in his attempts to help. I’m sure that played a factor in his feelings for what Varian did. However, if he thought hard on the Varian’s circumstances, he probably couldn’t realistically figure out what else Varian could have done without him and the crown not only not helping, but going against him as early as Quest for Varian. Plus him getting manipulated by the Saporians only happened because SOMEBODY thought throwing the scorned teenage prodigy into the same cell as the Terrorist was a good idea.

We now know that Eugene is just turned 26 years old, officially. Back in “Destinies Collide”, we saw the 25 year flashback of when King Edmund sent everyone, including his infant son, away and isolating himself in the Dark Kingdom cause he’d had enough of the Moonstone affecting their lives. We know Eugene’s mother was presumably killed as a result of the Moonstone acting up prior to that.

Do you think, in some form of symmetry, Eugene’s birth was affected by the Moonstone, kind of like Rapunzel’s was by the Sundrop?

Rapunzel’s mother consumed the Sundrop flower, while heavily pregnant, to heal herself and thus Rapunzel was born with the Sundrop’s magic. Eugene can’t be older than a few months in that flashback, so it can be assumed he was recently born (give or take some time-maths). Rapunzel born of Life. Eugene born of Death... Maybe Eugene wasn’t as directly influenced, but he could still have some of the Moon with him. Maybe that touch of power could also be what helped revive him? A cut on the hand required contact and an incantation, but a single tear that was absorbed was able to reverse death?? That’s some extreme Power of Love© bs for a couple who’ve only known each other for 48 hours, but it is Disney. Also to be noted is that he does cause boosts in Rapunzel’s magic in the series. Magic we now know that was revived by/borrowed from the Moonstone.

Personally, I just feel it would be fitting if Eugene were to be the one to reclaim the Moonstone in order to properly reunite it with the Sundrop.  Get some literal Power Couple action against Zhan-Tiri.

Sun and Moon.

Light and Dark.

Rapunzel and Eugene.

Look at the very end of the flashback we get in “Rapunzel’s Return”. It’s nighttime, and Cass is pretty angry...

Compare that with the shot of her leaving- not only is it daylight inside the door, but Cass looks exhausted.

So... did opening the door just take that long and that much energy? Or did something else happen that we haven’t seen yet?

Maybe Cass was running from something. Or fighting someone.

Maybe something tried to stop her from leaving.

And since Blue Girl wants to be “friends”, and wants Cass to go and take the Moonstone... none of these possibilities seem like something she would cause.

The running time of the Tangled Series Finale will be like over 65 minutes, right? That’s like 3 whole episodes put together!

Rapunzel asks Varian to play the guitar for her when she proposes with Eugene.

Imagine it. He ends up being the only person she tells that she’s planning on engaging to Eugene on his birthday, and she asks him if he would willing to play music for them when she is walking to him with the ring. It would be the ultimate sibling fluff to show how far their relationship has come since s1.

The BVA storyboards did show V’s room, and that he owns a guitar, so he could know how to play it.

Varian would end up accepting, literally screaming inside that one of his best friends in the whole world is about to engage to the love of her life/his role model; he can barely contain himself, and is literally struggling to stop himself from gushing about it because he’s just so darn excited. He literally spends nights preparing and practicing the song, making sure it’s perfect for the moment.

Rapunzel is really nervous about it, but also extremely excited and looking forward to it. Finally, after everything she and her friends have been through, they can all enjoy a perfect, normal evening together, marking their first steps towards moving on from all the hardship they faced, together. She is going to engage with the love of her life, someone who she’s nearly lost multiple times, whos now here with her against all odds, save and sound; and she and him are going to be happy.

It’s hard to say what exactly would go down at the party, it can go any way really.

During the party for Eugene (which its hard to say whether it would be exclusive to friends or if the kingdom would be invited), everything will be going great, everyone’s having a wonderful time, lots of smiles, dancing, and a general cheery bright mood is going on. Rapunzel is getting more excited and nervous by the second, thousands of thoughts racing through her mind. Varian tried to calm her down, assuring her everything will be fine (she sometimes goes to him during the party for reassurance; he’ll always give her a little pep talk to help her out).

Later into the party, that fabled moment arrives. Rapunzel is getting ready to propose to Eugene, she’s silently rehearsing her speech making sure it sounds perfect, shaking off all those remaining butterflies in her stomach, and from there anything happens.

1. Cassandra shows up and attacks before Rapunzel even has a chance to propose, and V doesn’t get to play the song.

2. Rapunzel does get to propose, she walks out slowly. She gives V a nod, who starts playing the song on his guitar, everyone falls silent as she walks up to Eugene, looking nervous but overjoyed at the same time, Eugene looks bewildered; and just as Raps goes to take out the ring, Cassandra shows up.

3. Whatever else you can think of.

Really the possibilities are endless with this scenario. I’m excited to see whatever the show has in store, but for real if something like this happens I will be screaming.

Don’t know if it was pointed out before, but I keep thinking back to this image from “Happiness Is” and can’t stop thinking that we may have ran into a small, simplistic drawing representing our main trio.

First we have the Sun, which is Rapunzel, obviously. We also have the Moon, and with the recent revelation and imagery throughout the series associated with Cassandra, it’d be her.

Now where does planet Mercury come in?