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gotham kids, teens, + batman 🦇

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carlo is killed in the church while looking at the jesus. later, pinocchio gets crucified and loses the same arm that the jesus statue did

the circle vignette gfx of geppetto in front of the exploded church is the only one in the entire film - this type of transition is called an iris wipe or iris shot

i love the wood instrument soundtrack

probably obvious but the fairy lights that look like will o the wisp are the angel’s eyes

“i look after the small things, the forgotten things” camera pans to geppetto

pinocchio’s little yodeling in his first song - they’re in northern italy. the map of the carnival’s travel also shows this

in the church scene, when ppl are calling pinocchio a devil and witch and so on, one lady calls him “demonio!” even though the english captions say ‘demon’

additionally, someone yells “malocchio!” which means evil eye

pinocchio getting new feet parallels carlo getting new shoes in the beginning

volpe… vulpes… fox, as in the character from the book

relatedly, his cane has a fox head carved on it

during pinocchio’s first show, volpe promises to make him “burn bright like a star,” and then he uses those exact words when he tries to kill pinocchio

he also calls pinocchio a fire hazard

it’s the podesta and his wife that hit pinocchio with the truck

during the ciao papa song, when geppetto is walking in the rain, sebastian cricket has a tiny red umbrella

mussolini’s giant red convertible has a gold hood ornament. the hood ornament is a tinier mussolini doing the facist salute

the signs held by the crowd that greets mussolini at catania say “SI!”

the ceiling pillar in the boys barracks says OBBEDIRE COMBATTERE

the music that plays in the bg during the kids’ flag/war game is an instrumental of the propaganda song pinocchio sang earlier

when sebastian is in geppetto’s shirt pocket, it’s right over the old man’s heart (aka where he lives in pinocchio)

hello! tysm for asking about harvey bc he’s very dear to me!! i do want to specify first that my legal knowledge is mostly limited to like a) criticizing the justice system in the us, and b) pretty vague in terms of the nuances to new jersey’s state system bc i don’t live there, so this is 80% headcanon and 20% personal research. also warning this got kinda long

like for one, regarding the state legal system, apparently jersey has “county prosecutors” (equivalent to new york’s district attorneys) who are appointed by the state attorney general instead of being elected. given it’s pretty much a staple for gotham to have a DA, we’re already throwing real world examples out the window

harvey getting disbarred is a really interesting point to me (<- intense focus on minutiae in world building), given that it’s already established in universe that gotham’s system is corrupt - which should include everyone from police to judges to prosecutors to prisons. which is kinda funny since most comics and adaptations don’t take the level of corruption inherent to police+prosecutors to nearly the depths they reach irl in the usa? and irl they rarely get disciplined or disbarred? i digress. because of the highly public nature of harvey / two face going on a revenge spree against gotham’s mob families, starting his own crime syndicate, and his arrest being published in the media, i think it’s safe to say he was disbarred.

while i’m not sure of how disbarment works as a process, i can imagine the NJ supreme court conducting an investigation into harvey’s crimes and run as DA to decide whether or not to disbar him - and all of the cops/ADAs/politicians/judges he pissed off while trying to reform gotham giving support for his disbarment. not to mention the actual criminal case that would be filed against harvey. disbarment in jersey is permanent (although apparently this might be changing recently?), so realistically, harvey can’t ever be reinstated. man crashed and killed his career so he could kill the maronis. which kind of explains harvey’s hopelessness about rebuilding his life

i mean mostly we see harvey offering legal advice, or sometimes just ‘holding court’ as a way for harv and twos to argue with each other. theoretically harvey could choose to represent himself in court. but even if they finish serving a sentence and try to build a non-crimey life, harvey’s disbarment would be his biggest obstacle to practicing law again. maybe given how convoluted gotham’s legal system is, ex con harvey would be allowed to practice in some but not all courts? like civil court and family court is fine, but as for criminal court... harvey can help with your divorce but he can’t defend you for committing robbery lmao

but honestly my preferred take is that two face and harvey have separate licenses. there was a scene in i think btas where they had a credit card with two face listed as the name, and in one of his runs with red hood he mentions their drivers license being out of date. so really i just think it would be hilarious if two face was not disbarred, or if he passed the bar as part of a rehab program (and i can definitely see a wayne sponsored convict higher education program existing in gotham)

(and relatedly, harvey and the other rogues being sentenced to arkham over and over again has fascinating implications? since traditionally it’s not a correctional facility the way a prison like blackgate is, not really. which would insinuate that despite being hella corrupt, gotham’s DAs don’t typically push for death penalty (illegal in NJ since 2007 btw) or even for life in prison, depending on the case. who knows? maybe harvey’s reform policies have kickstarted a lineage of more progressive DAs. well. unless arkham is being used as a jail+hospital for ppl with health needs, and that sentenced inmates are awaiting trial, bc then that would be more fucked up..)

YES YES EXACTLY ozai would hate lu ten SO SO much and he literally can’t do shit about it bc lu ten technically outranks him and azulon likes lu ten better; like what’s ozai going to do?? tell his distant father that his grandson sucks?? azulon would literally Not be listening to that.