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i have no creative caption. i love this ship
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Re: previous anon, I also can’t agree that Thistleclaw groomed Snowfur (except literally, with his tongue, because we know he did do that). First of all, I also prefer them as a battle couple, and think that’s what canon shows, but even if he did abuse or manipulate her, I don’t think he could have groomed her. They were the same age (actually, if we’re being super technical, he was a little younger), they had the same rights and responsibilities in the Clan, and Thistleclaw was not yet at the age to start making plans that he would manipulate her into. On the other hand, he did textbook groom Spottedleaf. Maybe that’s what anon meant?
But in terms of my problematic ships! I put forth Needletail/Violetshine (Needletail largely raised Violetshine and didn’t do a very good job of it, but nonetheless they are lesbians, Harold [well, technically I think Violetshine’s bi but close enough]), the aforementioned Tigerstar/Darkstripe and also Darkstripe/Longtail (mentors making their apprentices’ lives worse in every conceivable fashion), and Tallstar/Shrewclaw (sometimes you and your childhood bully have a weird amount of sexual tension).
NeedleViolet is already weird and unhealthy in canon so it doesn't take much to make it a weird and unhealthy ship. Weird dynamics surrounding Violetshine are always really solid; her entire upbringing was basically filled with bad examples for what family is and a bunch of associated trauma. It's one of the reasons why her and Tree are one of my favorite canon couples because it's her finally finding someone who just unconditionally loves her for her (I mean Hawkwing does too, but family doesn't count. Unless...?)
Darkstripe/Longtail is so funny because I imagine Darkstripe tries to replicate the ways that Tigerclaw hooked him, except Darkstripe has negative charisma and seems very selfish when it comes to intimacy. Probably why Longtail ended up being loyal to the clan in the end, instead of Tigerclaw.
Talltail x Shrewclaw. He has a fuck ton of making up to do in order to actually date him though
One day Talltail got angry at Shrewclaw and started shouting. Shrewclaw kinda goes like "damn... that's kind of hot..."
Cue Shrewclaw repeatedly pissing him off until he leaves because he doesn't know how to talk about his feelings properly.
think about it as slightly worse bkdk and you'll have a lot more success shipping it
Everyone talks about Talljake but TallSHREW is the literal emboidment of:
To throw onto the pile you currently have
Apologies for the incoherence.
Tall/Shrew? (Talltail's bully, if you forgot.)
Tall had a bit of a crush on shrew in their apprentice and early warrior years, which Shrew exploited to bully and just be a real dick. Shrew goes as far as saying that they are dating just to have further reason to bully Tall. Some twisted romantic feelings on Shrews end, but mixed with just a desire to push around someone he blames for his parents death.
Then Tall goes on a training montage with his boyfriend, comes back, gets made deputy for some reason.
Talltail decides to be more... Assertive in their "relationship" now that he is back.
Just sorta weird situation where Tall isn't exactly cruel, but definitely aiming to pay back some of that earlier bullshit, while Shrew is both more submissive due to the difference in rank, scared due to see previous, and also the upside that it means he is now technically dating a future leader so uh that might improve his reputation.
Anyways, this is mostly vibes based and dependant on people forgetting what happened in like the last fourth of Tallstar's revenge
This is good! I'm a big fan of guy x his bully anyway (another thing the Warriors setting really lends itself too) and this has that fun power dynamic twist we were talking about before too.
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