Hello.
I saw another one of you guy’s blogs about anti masculinity, and even tho i’m cisfem i find it really cool because i too believe that men can be discriminated against and see too many people claiming otherwise.
However, i saw that in that blog’s dni was ‘people against contradicting labels’, claiming that it’s interphobic/pluralphobic and such. I don’t really get contradicting labels, and have mostly heard things against it which *seem* logical to me, but i would love to learn more about them to be more educated and maybe a bit more open.
I’m sorry if this request is bothersome, i’m just interested in learning things different from my perspective. You don’t have to answer if you don’t want to, but it would be nice if you could <3 /nf
Everything against contradictory labels is honestly just rooted in exorsexism, transphobia, intersexism, monosexism, and amatonormativity. Its also just literal erasure of queer history. These identities have always existed and only became a subject of debate in modern times.
"You can't be a man and a lesbian" peritrans, genderqueer, and intersex men have always been a part of the lesbian community and multigender people (ie; menwomen) exist. More thorough breakdown of that here [link]. (This also applies the other way around, for the "you can't be a woman and a uranian" argument.)
"You can't be an mspec lesbian/mspec uranian" what about the split attraction model (ie; biromantic homosexual, a pansexual homoromantic, omnisexual homoalterous, etc)? What about abros, people with a fluid orientation (ie; a person who fluctuates between plyromantic and uranian)? Ignoring the importance of the split attraction model is extraordinarily amatonormative, because it groups all forms of attraction together, erasing a shit ton of aspec identities.
"You can't be a straight lesbian/uranian" once again, back to the previous two points, people can have complex gender identities, be on the split attraction model, or have a fluid identity.
"You can't be a transfem AFAB/transmasc AMAB" literally not the truth, the origins of the term had nothing to do with AGAB. You can read my breakdowns here [link.]
(Side note, I hate how much people misuse the term AGAB. AGAB is not the same as anatomy or socially imposed gender. More on that here [link] and here [link.])
Intersex people can be socially imposed in ways that are unaligned with their AGAB. (ie; AMAB, but socially imposed as female growing up. Or AFAB, and was socially imposed in an unclear, degendering way. Or assigned a gender and flip-flopped between different socially imposed genders.)
Nonbinary people (perisex or intersex) can be transitioning from binary womanhood to nonbinary womanhood, or binary manhood to nonbinary manhood, or binary to fem/masc identities completely unrelated to manhood or womanhood.
People with cultural genders could be transitioning from binary manhood to a masc cultural gender, or binary womanhood to a fem cultural gender.
Plurals could have an innerworld identity that is unaligned with the shared body.
People could be retransitioning (ie; a person who thought they were transfem, started transitioning, then realized they were actually a man and is retransitioning back into manhood.)
There are so many examples of stupid "discourse" (bigotry). I could go on and on. But literally all contradictory labels can be boiled down to a few simple, solid truths:
People dont care about intersex experiences.
People want to strip trans men and trans women away from communities they have always been a part of the moment they start transitioning.
People don't care about/hate nonbinary experiences.
People don't care about/hate cultural genders.
People don't care about/hate folks on the split attraction model.
People don't care about/hate folks with fluid orientations.
People don't care about/hate plurals.
People don't care about/hate retransitioners.
That's the gist of it all. All of this stupid waste of time, all of this isolation and harassment of fellow queers, all of this identity policing, it just boils down to hatred.
