#stuckrogers

exactly. joss whedon has this problem (at least in films) where he wants to say something but executes it really poorly. this also happened with steve in “the avengers” (which people had a huge problem with but i didn’t really) and i think the biggest complaint i have in this film about natasha is her romance arc with bruce. keep in mind, i don’t really ship her with clint or bucky or whatever. i prefer natasha alone and don’t think she NEEDS anyone, but of all the people i think bucky is the one she could connect with the most. but i digress.

her saying she’s a monster has really nothing to do with the fact that she can’t have kids. it’s that she chose (albeit hesitantly, or so it seemed) to have this done and makes the killing easier. it’s true. you have no kids, no maternal instinct to save anything or anyone you love because you’re practically a killing machine. 

the thing with bruce is i can see how, but again, really poor execution. the problem also isn’t just with joss. he wanted a more heartfelt film whereas disney/marvel wanted more action and those two don’t necessarily mesh well. he also didn’t deal with nat’s problem of making new covers for herself or having her entire past exposed to the world, etc. so i find that incredibly sloppy on his part, when he’s been so gun ho about black widow and all of that. however this isn’t a solo widow film. it’s an avengers film and he had to fit 500 characters in one film and that isn’t easy either.

having said that, though, people saying her entire purpose in the film was for bruce makes me angry. 

1) she still kicked major ass without the help of anyone. 

2) this film REALLY highlights the relationship she has with clint. one of solid and undeniable friendship. 

3) it showed a very different side of her (with kids, her own vulnerability which, btw, she does have in other characterizations.) 

and 4) how much the team actually does need her, ie: “always picking up after you boys.”/picking up the chest, etc. 

she didn’t need bruce to “save her” when she was trapped but, you know, it probably wasn’t in her best interest to leave the cell WHEN 500 ULTRONS WERE AROUND. by the time he left was when the avengers arrived. she wasn’t cowering in some corner waiting for a man to save her. in fact, she delivered the message to the guys via spy, which tony suggested and clint was already on.

i’m not saying there weren’t problems with her characterization but people are SO HAPPY to dislike joss whedon that they don’t look more in depth at the film and just wanna bitch because things weren’t 100% to their liking. had joss given us a proper bridge for bruce/natasha, then this would be different. and also, if it had been bruce pursuing her, we’d be having a whole different story. what? a woman can’t pursue a man? do you know how many variations of black widow are out there? she isn’t stone cold 100% of the time, people. 

I'm actually pretty sure it says "Po'keepsie" (Poughkeepsie) but I could be wrong

who was that supposed to belong to I couldn’t tell??

I know we don’t talk much but gosh I hope you dont mind me saying I feel this on all levels like the boys and the girls and poly thoughts and im so glad someone else feels the same

*high fives*

*sends hugs and love* also your face is cute

<3 <3 <3

i appreciate this message so much wow. always good to feel like you’re not alone

but yeah, i dunno, i feel like thompson got to be the Generic Sexist Dude/Target for All Feminist Hatred from the beginning (and for good reason — he’s a huge asswipe), but i’m always open for characters redeeming themselves, y’know? like i don’t have to condone his sexist behavior to be happy for him when he allows himself to be vulnerable and thereby starts trusting the people around him, including those he once looked down on. after all, what would the world look like if no one had a chance to change?

i love, love, love that they gave him that development. it warms my heart and also is really strong rhetorically, even stronger than it was when they had the asswipes on one side and the people who respected peggy on the other, because if people never change, then we’d have to kill all the asswipes in order to be happy, and that’s just a bad argument. people do change. they cast that development in thompson as something positive, and they gave it to him without any bitter quips about ‘oh well you’ve changed your stripes’ or w/e which would have demonized the change. it sets a good precedent, i think, and it’s more realistic. sometimes people do bad things, but it doesn’t mean they’ll be awful forever. people can change. things can get better. and change happens a hell of a lot easier when we focus on the good things coming to us in the present and in the future, rather than all the bad things we had to endure in the past. peggy’s cool acceptance of thompson’s trust reflects really well on her, too, in that sense, because it shows that she’s above petty bitterness, and that she’s really just looking to make the good changes happen. she changes a hell of a lot, that woman, but not just with her mean right hook — with her courage and her grace, too.

he’s not really a bad guy idk it’s ahrd to explain but i was thinking the same thing. i was like WHAT IS CROMWELL DOING HERE

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