#sshii-bi

I was thinking "man it seems like the majority of lesbian/bi women are feminine, where are all the masc/androgynous wlw at?" But then I answered myself-

"... they're convinced that they're actually non-binary, that's Where."

It sounds dumb but it makes sense? Especially now a days, teen girls and young women are being convinced (by eachother) that they're actually non binary or trans for their gender non-conformity ((and their same sex attraction)). I am constantly finding "non-binary lesbians" online, and on tumblr practically every butch or masc wlw based blog has "they/them butch" or "he/him dyke" in its bio :( Does this make sense to you or am I just ranting

No that makes perfect sense, and I agree!

There’s a very clear message online right now that women are feminine, and comfortable with the expectations placed on women. So if you’re masculine or uncomfortable with sexist expectations, you’re obviously not a woman and are some form of nonbinary.

I completely reject the split attraction model, I think it’s incredibly stupid and opens the door for a ton of homophobia. For example, if a bunch of people are going around calling themselves “bisexual lesbians”, they are sending the message that lesbians can be attracted to men, which tells homophobes that their beliefs about homosexuals are confirmed.

I think the majority of people who call themselves things like “homoromantic heterosexual” are bisexual. The others are people who are mistaking the desire for deep friendships with the same sex for romance. Generally though, the whole split attraction model thing seems sort of like the “pansexual” thing, it’s just another way for people to avoid calling themselves bisexual. Which is sad, because there’s absolutely nothing wrong with being bisexual and people should embrace it instead of trying to come up with all these different labels to explain it away.

I don’t doubt that there’s people who experience something like romantic attraction to one sex, and sexual attraction to another, or romantic attraction to both and sexual attraction to one, or romantic attraction to none and romantic attraction to both, or any other combination you can think of. But as far as I’m concerned, that’s just how sexuality works. Some bisexuals are only interested in romantically pursuing one sex, but enjoy casual sex with both. Some heterosexuals and homosexuals aren’t interested in romance, and only casual sex, or the other way around. But that’s how they experience their sexuality, it’s not their actual sexuality.

The split attraction model was on my mind recently, because I was thinking about how it ties in so nicely with the genderist view of sexuality. Gender ideology preaches that sexuality isn’t actually SEXuality, but rather that it’s based on gender. I guess renaming orientations to things like homogenderal wouldn’t have caught on, so the next best thing is to insist that the “sex” part actually has nothing to do with biological sex at all, but rather just wanting to have sex with somebody. Then the “romantic orientation” thing comes in, because romance is included in sexuality when it’s based on bio sex, but needs its own separate thing when it’s removed from sexuality.

It seems like the SAM really took off when gender ideology started gaining traction, so I can’t help but think they go together, specifically with the SAM being a way for gender ideology to explain how their view of gender and sex fits in with sexuality. Because without the SAM, sexuality and gender ideology don’t mix at all. I’m sure this is where part of my dislike for the split attraction model comes from, because I really hate how much effort has gone into redefining homosexuality to allow room for gender identity to take priority.

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And also, do you think this non-binary "gender doesn't exist but also gender means aesthetic" trend will ever go away (Or at least die down a ton)? It feels like everyone and their mother agrees with it, but I think that's because most people (who disagree) are quiet about it.

Hi!! This is similar to an old ask so I’m answering them both at once lol

My optimistic side says yes, it’ll die down. To me it seems like the next emo kid thing… eventually people will be looking back going “lol I can’t believe we did that”.

My pessimistic side says no, it’ll continue on. Because people are selling it as an LGBT rights thing, so you have it being taught to some extent in schools. Here’s an example:

I’ve seen this up irl, so I can confirm that it’s real lol. I think I’ve only seen the original though.

So we’re getting a whole generation being raised on this stuff, which didn’t (to my knowledge) happen with any other fad.

It’s actually “thespian”, like with a P, because when I thought of the URL I was heavily involved in theatre and I guess it just stuck.

But also because “thespian” rhymes with “lesbian” lol. I remember that being a reason I chose the word “thespian” specifically, because at the time I was still comfortable with the word lesbian since I hadn’t been exposed to the negativity around the word yet. Then I became very uncomfortable with it and disconnected it from “thespian”. But now I’m back to being very comfortable with being a lesbian, meaning I’m back to being amused by it’s similarity to thespian.

Straight characters are turned gay -> gay characters are turned bisexual -> bisexual characters are turned gay or woke bisexual (pan).

Frankly a few years ago I stopped interacting with most fandoms, if I like some media I'll just look at some fanart of it and that's mostly as far as it goes ((unless it's fnaf)).

I agree! It seems like no matter what a character’s sexuality is, it’s not good enough. People always need to find a way to change it somehow instead of just leaving it be. It’s especially frustrating when it’s people changing gay characters to be OSA, just because of the way it’s reminiscent of conversion therapy, or at least the ideas behind it (that an exclusively SSA person is better off experiencing OSA).

And things are even worse now with all the gender headcanons. You can take a lesbian character and partner her with a man and have her interact with his penis…but call him a trans woman and apparently it’s a lesbian relationship. It’s so gross watching people do this and then claim to be progressive for it just because they can hide behind the claim that they’re representing trans people. Instead of just admitting they like writing or drawing gay characters having straight sex.

I submit our hand size difference as proof