i find it kind of weird when people imply spamton somehow hurt mettaton by taking the neo suit. it was abandoned, probably straight out deleted. swatch is the one who expresses distaste at spamton wanting it, and honestly im not too sure swatch is a good gauge for what mettaton wouldve felt because they are incredibly different people. ive always read it as more uplifting tbh? as in, your desires are meaningful. the way you want to be is inspiring to others. there are people who are like you and would understand you. It reads more similar to the lion’s reaction to mettaton’s blue dress than it does any kind of harm, in my eyes

i see people say sometimes “spamton would be bad trans rep because he’s violent and wants power” and im like. those people exist though? I’m a trans guy who has often felt bereft of power over my own life and reacted about it? granted im not that violent outside of my own head, but still. and ive even seen trans guys who want patriarchal power (which they will never truly get btw) (and i also dont think that’s a good interpretation of what spamton wants)? and spamton isnt the only trans character in utdr so i dont care if he sucks as a person? and he’s extremely sympathetic even though he also sucks? i dont understand why this is important to you. Trans people can also suck. I dont want this “all representation must be done with characters that cannot possibly be interpreted badly by people”. all representation can and will be interpreted badly because bigots are bigots. Do you want complex characters who do things for complex reasons or do you want characters with 0 personality cuz it seems like you guys cant fucking pick one

i feel like one thing that is important to understand about spamton is that YES he is mentally ill and violent, but he is STILL at much higher risk than you. You are the player. Going back to try again is diegetic. You have far more power over these people than all of them combined. In Snowgrave, you end up literally killing him. It’s not that i think he’s an innocent defenseless victim, no, but he is also not a one-note perpetrator at no risk. His life is still at more stake than yours as the player, the heroes, constantly redoing everything ever will be. his life or death doesn’t much matter to the story. yours does. so only you get to try again

i think spamton actually is worried about his social acceptability, he just also cant stop himself from being who he is. he says whatever is on his mind and will try to beat you up and is a serial committer to the bit. but he also seems to understand to some extent that this pushes people away. which is why he needed literally fucking divine help to be palatable, and why he took the deal for that help. it just might not be so obvious that this is true when hes deep in psychosis and so barely seems aware of how he comes off or other people in general anymore—it’s good to keep in mind that when we see him in the game, he is literally at his lowest point in his entire life

i acrually kind of really love the idea that spamton always talked like that, and just didnt have the brackets before. like the caps arent from the curse (despite the apparent connection between all caps and divinity in deltarune) he just is ALWAYS YELLING to take up more space (worth to note, nobody else who speaks in all caps sometimes has lowercase like spamton does). he always misspelled things. he always was really in your face and hard to understand. the bracket tics are just a layer on top that probably are an exaggeration of how he already spoke mixed with the fact that he was being controlled in all his advertising (considering that the puppetification is about making him a caricature of himself!). there never was a cool aloof spamton there was only ever a small yelling freak. You will love him this way. Okay.