#rtte 4

“I can’t imagine a world without you in it.”

well the first thing idk why everyone was tagging the poor httyd blog asking them to release the show??? like what the heck? everyone just started spamming them demanding a show? yikes

tbh i didn’t even finish season 3, i was very disappointed, but then i started looking at it like a spin off rather than actual canon cause there are soooooooo many contradictions with the second movie, so i take everything with a grain of salt and just pick and choose what seems logical

i want them to actually act like friends? like do fun stuff all together? they’re teenagers for thor’s sake! i am a shithead teenager and my friends and i wouldn’t be able to be that serious without having a lil fun every once in a while

ruffnut and astrid bro time!!!! gimme girl love! i want them to be friends, like… 2 girls friends with 4 teenage boys?? i have been in that situation. i want the mutual look between ruff and astrid when snotlout’s talking

more info on the ruffnut snotlout fishlegs triangle, where did that come from? when are we gonna hear about it? it’s weird they waited so long before developing it….

it’s so dumb hiccup and astrid aren’t dating, and i’m saying this as someone who’s main ship aint hiccstrid, like… what was the point. they could’ve used this opportunity to build on the elements of a relationship. they don’t gotta be making out every 5 seconds, geez. they should be friends and be closer. i can sense they’re gonna be like “they’ve been dating this whole time!!!” and i will groan

more of the twins!!!! i want to see more of everyone that isn’t hiccup!!! give the others a time to shine honestly

Proof of Viggo’s ‘fake war’:

Viggo somehow knows where Ryker would strike next

When the Shellfire attacks Caldera Cay, Viggo escapes. And then Ryker surrenders in Outcast Island, as if he knew that they would go there, while the Shellfire attacks at a different island (Viggo might even be switched control over the Shellfire during that time, but that won’t add any proof).

Viggo conveniently appears to Hiccup after the Shellfire attacks Beserker Island.

We never saw Ryker commenting about killing/destroying his brother during his attack at the Edge

Viggo’s chuckle in the end (Y'know, he could’ve just remembered a funny joke and laughed about it, but I’ll add it anyway xD).

Proofs/ thoughts that are against Viggo’s ‘fake war’:

If Viggo would want to damage the riders, he could’ve just relocated his base and plan an ambush with Project Shellfire while providing them no solution and keeping the Dragon Eye safe.

It doesn’t make sense for Viggo to risk so much resources just for this mission. Ryker and the army was probably prepared to be lost. But logically, risking a battlestation as a mere tool to be lost is too wasteful, even for Viggo.

Why would Viggo unleash a Submaripper to deal with the Shellfire? (I will try to rationalize this below)

So, if we were to consider the betrayal plot was a conspiracy, what exactly what Viggo’s masterplan? In my opinion, it might be to get close enough to defeat the riders from the inside and to destroy the Edge. Though his methods using the Dragon Eye is beyond me (unless he just wants to toy with Hiccup, promising him victory but then leaving him biting the dust)

My Theory on His ‘Fake War’ Plan

So, the first step of Viggo’s plan would be to attempting to win the riders’ sympathy by helping them predict Ryker’s next attack (which is suspiciously correct) and promising them information. During the attack in Caldera Cay, he took the time to escape. While it is not seen on screen, it is most likely that he rejoined his army and predicted that riders will attack Outcast Island (because he is Viggo lol), before commanding that Ryker should make them more confused by surrendering and presenting the other side of the story. He also orchestrated the attack in Beserker Island (he might even be in the Shellfire ship), before approaching Hiccup with the Eye, to further make him believe with his story. It is indeed a risky move, but like what we’ve seen previously, he would be willing to manuever in risky waters for ultimate victory. Even if he ends being imprisoned, Viggo is sure that they won’t stand a chance with the Shellfire unless they enlist his help (But Snotlout made it much more easier by nearly killing him lol). He then summons the Submaripper as a part of his own personal plan which Ryker and the rest doesn’t know about.

About him awakening Submaripper, yeah that’s very questionable. At first, I thought he might had actually planned to kill/ blackmail Hiccup, using the presence of the Submaripper to escape blame if someone was to catch him during the act. If he was able to kill Hiccup during that moment, his game would’ve ended there, with the rider’s ‘viking chief’ dead. But I doubt he would even try that, especially above a Night Fury and a Submaripper. He’d be dead after his nemesis’ is killed.

So, I think he did it to either:

to distract the Shellfire, so he could have enough time to get the Dragon Eye back and escape

To make his cooperation convincing to the riders (which I highly doubt due to the losses in stake).

or both

Ultimately, the Submaripper allowed Viggo to be dropped by Hiccup, due to him “slowing them down”. While this action could have contradicted his plans to sink the Island, I think Viggo perfectly knew that the Shellfire would’ve suceeded in activating the volcano anyway, given the damage done to it at the last attack by the Eruptodon. He probably didn’t expect the baby Eruptodon, but it made little difference anyway. However, the baby dragon did not only help the riders, it was also inadvertedly working in Viggo’s favor instead, stalling enough time to retrieve the Eye.

From what I remember, Viggo also didn’t know where the riders were keeping the Eye after Snotlout imprisoned him in the burning stable, so I think after getting dropped off, he probably decided to search for the Eye in the base, before planning an escape. Turns out, he doesn’t find it, and Astrid unexpectedly found him out (again). He probably managed to best her “somehow” (wth Astrid, you could have kicked his ass). While he knew the gang would be willing to risk their own life for duty, he also knew that they could only be blackmailed by threatening their team-mates instead. Especially Hiccup (who most definitely knows where the Eye is compared to the others. Not to mention the Viggo’s delight of seeing his archnemesis admitting his victory) in the case of Astrid. So he forced Stormfly to fly after Hiccup to the volcano. If his plan was to be successful, maybe Viggo would even consider to kill Astrid as unlike the Buffalord, he has no use of Astrid. Plus, Astrid’s death would cripple Hiccup and the gang further more, because losing the Eye and their base is just not enough.

The one thing he didn’t expect, is Hiccup throwing the Eye to the volcano (from the look of his face, he is genuinely surprised. But I could be wrong). This small detail destroyed his plans and left him with nothing. Eventually, even his life is lost (If he did indeed die)

But this theory might not be true considering the proofs against this theory, I could also be possible that things went out more similar to what had happened in Viggo’s story.

Ryker’s Betrayal plot:

Like Viggo’s explanation, Ryker manages sway the hunters to betray Viggo and destroy the riders themselves with the power they gained through Project Shellfire. Viggo could have eavesdropped on their conversation, so he knows Ryker’s next move.

Seekng the opportunity to escape when Caldera Cay is attacked, he went to find the Dragon Eye (and some new clothes) and give it to Hiccup, deciding to work together for him until the time has come for him to take back the Eye.

If this was the case, summoning the Submaripper makes more sense. Viggo would never be able to take over the weapon anymore, so he might as well destroy it along with his brother.

When the Shellfire leaves the battle, Viggo takes the chance to find the Eye, probably by searching for it in the base (because again, he didn’t know where the Eye was). Astrid discovers his actions and probably tries to stop him, only to be defeated. He then goes after Hiccup, for his sweet victory. Still, there is a possibility that he would betray his promise kill Astrid anyway, that is until Hiccup throws the Eye to the volcano.

Ah, back exactly to my favorite scene. Yeah, I just really like seeing the people in blade point trope. Not to mention I LOVE THAT KATANA!

Nice try Fishlegs lol.

Wow, that was easy. I thought some fight would’ve happened before they would cooperate. Or maybe a “throw him into a volcano” cliche, but Thank Thor it didn’t happen.

Even with Hiccup at blade-point and they still did that xD.

Mala went back into happy mode after Hiccup allowed her to kill him?

Yay katana time!

Haha even Stormfly’s disgusted.

Snotlout and Mala look like Harley Davidson Gangstas.

*inserts It’s a Trap gif*

You know, sometimes I pity those hunter grunts. They are working hard to impress their boss, who doesn’t care about them anyway. Like, they are indeed wrong for selling dragons, but Viggo, take a chill pill xD.

Ok especially that one with the arrow.

What just happened to the riders. Did they just allowed dragons to eat people? (Lol I know Fishlegs was just joking but Meatlug’s expression is just priceless)

Meatlug’s like “After years, I finally could get to eat human cuisine again”

Ok they searched the ship for whole day long? And no one thought to just search for other ships?

Wow, I’m surprised why the ninjas haven’t killed them yet xD

Mala’s favorite words would be “die” and “kill”

Yay Barf and Belch significance! Missed the way those guys worked together in the first movie.

Sure, Hiccup’s move is clever. But don’t you think those grunts being too dumb is also a factor? Viggo, just teach basic physics for them, will ya?

Wow, Viggo admits that their defenses are “too good for themselves” xD

Oh no! Godzilla’s attacking town!

Viggo’s fanboying on this battle as if it was a football game. Somewhat strange for a dramatic person like him.

Badass Mala strikes back!

When gamblings get too far…

Lol Snotlout. Poor Mala, but yeah, that relationship’s pretty sick lol.