To the anon who asked why breaking boundaries is okay if they don't know about it:
It's because you're not breaking boundaries. A person's boundaries exist as their own personal comfort level and should be respected when you're interacting with them or their space. Someone cannot enforce boundaries onto places they don't control or have any involvement in. Boundaries are lines you set for yourself and enforce for yourself. You cannot demand things of other people or insist they cater to your comfort level in spaces you do not own or have presence. And simply going to a place like ao3 does not give you the right to authority.
If you cannot personally enforce something (eg blocking a user or banning a chatter) after establishing what you are comfortable with, then it isn't a boundary; it's a demand that everyone else exist in their own spaces with the constant thought of hypothetical interaction.
It is okay to be uncomfortable sometimes. You are enforcing a boundary every time you warn someone of consequences or block them. You are not enforcing a boundary by creating rules and expecting everyone else to cater to you when there are already mechanics in place that you can use to make your online experience more comfortable.
If the thought of someone making art of you that you don't like is uncomfortable, that's normal. Use the tools in place to enforce your boundaries by blocking and filtering.
Demanding a creator talk about shipping when they've already established it makes them uncomfortable is crossing a boundary. Writing a fic on a fan website and minding your own business is not.
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Okay, HEAR ME OUT: Tengen falling for a male reader hashira. Like he is genuinely flustered at the fact that he wants a husband. He is nervous for the first time. The flashy attitude POOF GONE! He is like a high-school girl in love. Then he tells his wives about his feelings and how he wants the reader as a husband. His wives agree and BOOM relationship! So how would he ask the reader out, how would the relationship be like?
AHHH, YOU MUST KNOW OF MY LOVE FOR TENGEN… HERE YOU GO!
Uzui Tengen Falling for Male!Reader Hashira
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When He Realizes His Feelings
For the first time in forever, the self-proclaimed god of flamboyance finds himself tongue-tied.
He notices how his heart races when you’re nearby and how his usual over-the-top lines die on his lips.
He tries to act normal at first, but the wives notice immediately: “Tengen-sama, you’re… unusually quiet.”
He blurts out during dinner with them: “I think… I want a husband.” Dead silence.
His wives burst into laughter and joy, instantly supportive and curious about you.
Suma starts squealing, Makio teases him for finally being flustered, and Hinatsuru smiles knowingly.
They encourage him: “Go for it! You deserve someone who makes you feel this way.”
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How He Confesses / Asks You Out
For once in his life, he doesn’t plan some flashy performance — he’s too nervous.
He spends forever rehearsing what to say, then scrambles last-minute and blurts it out.
“I… uh… listen, you’re… more flamboyant than anyone else I’ve ever met. And I—dammit. I want you to be my husband.”
His ears turn bright red as soon as the words leave his mouth.
If you tease him for being nervous, he groans, covers his face, and mutters, “Unflamboyant. So unflamboyant.”
If you accept, he immediately regains some of his flair, sweeping you into a dramatic hug — but you can still tell he’s trembling with relief.
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The Relationship
Tengen brags that he now has “the flashiest husband,” and his wives are just as proud to show you off.
His wives adore you. You’re folded into their family seamlessly — they treat you as much their partner as his.
He’s affectionate to a ridiculous degree, but there’s a sincerity in it that wasn’t there with his usual theatrics.
He absolutely melts when you call him out for being soft. “Don’t… don’t say that in front of them!” (while blushing furiously).
He trains with you constantly — partly to stay sharp, partly because he likes watching you move.
At first, he tries to outshine you, but eventually, he realizes he loves when you outshine him.
Protective, but also deeply respectful. He brags about your strength endlessly: “Did you see him out there? That’s my husband!”
His wives sometimes tease that you’re the only one who can truly quiet him down — and it’s true. Around you, the world slows.
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Overall
He goes from being the loudest, most confident man alive to the most nervous lovestruck fool — and it’s adorable.
His wives love seeing this new side of him, and they welcome you wholeheartedly.
The relationship becomes a blend of warmth, affection, banter, and yes — plenty of flashiness (once he stops being shy).
But at the core, he finally found someone who makes even the god of flamboyance blush.
Oh Tengen, my flamboyant king, they could NEVER make me hate you.
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☕️+ hello! i wanted to ask for recommendations and opinions on some gritty depressed vibe books for this upcoming winter season.. for those of us who are partial to patho and other such stories.. beautiful gloomy writing is also a slay<3 as is the Gays<3 maybe even other formats too, not just books ….thank you! loved your new fic :-)
Hello! This is a brilliant question, thank you. Absolutely great question. I love this question.
[Cracks my cold fingers like a pianist] Here we go! MrCogito’s winter doomer vibe cultivation list.
I’ve made another list in the past, on main, of literature that reminds me of David Lynch specifically (💔), and I’m going to link back to that, because I do believe there is some significant overlap, as well as a specific shoutout to one very strange and compelling thing I read this year.
Here, I've included existential dread (horror-adjacent) and existential dread (sociopolitical).
Kazuo Ishiguro, Never Let Me Go and The Buried Giant.
Never Let Me Go: In some ways nobody does gritty depression like Ishiguro. The most obvious choice would probably be Never Let Me Go, which is excellent, and possibly one of the most depressing things I’ve read in my life (and I willingly read it twice). It ties very seamlessly with Pathologic through the underlying discussions of free-will, effects of war and industrialisation on society, othering, eugenics and community vs individualism. It’s a wretched read, genuinely. But it’s been tremendously impactful to me.
The Buried Giant: this book is also gloomy and depressing, but in a much more whimsical way. And I mean whimsy in an eerie, uncanny, fluctuating fable sort of way, parallel to Pathologic from a different angle. Fundamentally, this is an anti-war narrative, but it plays with myth and legend (mainly arthurian legend), distorted memories, propaganda, symbolism and so on. I really loved it; only read it recently but will happily reread it.
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Yōko Ogawa , The Memory Police
If you like the Powers-that-Be noose-tightening desolation of Pathologic + as well as its more abstract forces such as the players in the sandbox moving puppets, and narratives within narratives, you might like this novel. It’s very melancholy and poignant, and the author’s use of magical realism is understated and integrated into the world it paints in a very compelling way. I’ve been thinking about this novel a lot since I’ve read it last summer. Some key words: community, invigilation, oppression, memory.
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Ursula K. Le Guin, The Left Hand of Darkness
I actually made this text post, as shown, 8 months ago, and it really resonated with way more people than I expected:
When you start TLHOD, it does not seem either gritty or depressed and more like a very sociopolitically relevant thriller dressed up in a science-fiction costume. That being said, I read the last 20 or so with tears streaming down my face. I don’t really tend to sob as I read things, but god, this gets you. It’s a beautiful story, it’s horribly depressing, and I still can’t believe this was written in 1960s with how nuanced and insightful it is irt gender, gender roles and the entire political commentary surrounding the concept of “patriotism” and themes of Otherness and exile.
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Djuna Barnes, I Am Alien to Life + Nightwood
If you’re in the mood for a collection of poignant, haunting and deeply unnerving short stories, this is it. The stories are a good entry point, and they’ve very recently published in this collection; but if you’re curious, I do also recommend Barnes’s Nightwood, a Lynchian nightmare of a tormented lesbian modernist novel. It has … a lot going on. T.S. Eliot of the Waste Land fame wrote a raving introduction for it. As most modernist writing, bear in mind there’s a lot of tws for this, but even keeping that in mind, it’s one of the most interesting things I’ve ever read. Gender nonconformity (the character of the Doctor, in particular, stands out to me), desolation, toxicity, oppression, striking use of symbolism.
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James Baldwin, Giovanni’s Room + Another Country
Another favourite of mine. Few people on earth could write so beautifully about despair as Baldwin did. I love his writing. I think he was genuinely one of a kind and in many ways nothing compares. Giovanni’s Room is short, succinct, beautiful and horrible. Another Country is dynamic and sprawling, and entirely haunted. Baldwin is the sort of writer that just stays with you forever, so beware, but also, you’re welcome.
Joseph Broderick, The Pilgrimage
This is a recent discovery! If you enjoy the repressed-small-town aspect of Pathologic, this might be the thing. Broderick describes, with all the relish due to someone shunned by his own country, the small-mindedness and hypocrisy of a little Catholic Irish town, and everything that goes on underneath its surface. It’s queer and repressed, and everything is toxic, awful and stifling. This was the tagline that enticed me to pick it up, and it did not disappoint:
The Empusium, Olga Tokarczuk
Again a favourite author, and this time I’m going for thematic/atmospheric relevance to Pathologic. The Empusium is a strange novel, definitely less structurally “normative” than, say, Drive Your Plow Over the Bones of the Dead or Flights (another favourite of mine): it meanders and at times seems to abandon the plot for the sake of its atmosphere (to match the narrator’s whimsical mind). And its eerie whimsy is really unique and delicious: you visit a German resort town by the border of Poland where the main character goes to convalesce from tuberculosis, circa 1913. And something odd is happening there. Again, themes of gender, gender nonconformity, Otherness, medical malpractice, folk horror. I read it in Polish (it was only translated very recently!) so I don’t have a good quote on me, other than what I found online.
What sets this one apart is that it’s actually not gritty or depressing to read, in my opinion. But Mieczysław, our “final girl” so to speak, is a delightful character and this story really goes well with Pathologic/Dankovsky, so I thought I’d include it anyway.
Dostoyevski. Yeah.
This feels like stating the obvious, because of course Pathologic enjoyers would find something compelling in Dostoyevski. That being said, finally biting through Crime & Punishment really did enrich my experience of Patho, and it was indeed a miserable time start to finish, and well worth the read!
Honourable (unread) mention:
I’m stuck reading Ulysses for the foreseeable future, but José Donoso’s The Obscene Bird of the Night is the next thing I want to get my hands on, and I believe it might just fit this list.
Blurb: This haunting jungle of a novel has been hailed as “a masterpiece” by Luis Buñuel and “one of the great novels not only of Spanish America, but of our time” by Carlos Fuentes. The story of the last member of the aristocratic Azcoitia family, a monstrous mutation protected from the knowledge of his deformity by being surrounded with other freaks as companions, The Obscene Bird of Night is a triumph of imaginative, visionary writing. Its luxuriance, fecundity, horror, and energy will not soon fade from the reader’s mind.
Also: “It would be a crass understatement to say that this book is a challenging read; it's totally and unapologetically psychotic. It's also insanely gothic, brilliantly engaging, exquisitely written, filthy, sick, terrifying, supremely perplexing, and somehow connives to make the brave reader feel like a tiny, sleeping gnat being sucked down a fabulously kaleidoscopic dream plughole.”
Film:
I’m going to have to be very brief here, because we would be in this post for hours. That being said:
Stalker by Andrei Tarkovsky - this is the closest thing thematically and tonally to Pathologic that exists, imo. An adaptation of Strugatski brothers' Roadside Picnic, in addition to the tone, themes, setting, language (I can go on), also has a pretty visceral history: almost everyone who worked on this project, including Tarkovsky himself, died horribly after exposure to the toxic environment of the location they chose for the Zone.
There’s a lot to unpack here, but from the beginning, while watching, you’ll be struck by how much the imagery of Pathologic is visibly influenced by Tarkovsky’s cinematography: a girl moves a glass with her eyes looking uncannily like Clara. Scientists idly roam a stark-looking laboratory. Rails lead us away from the City into wilderness.
TV:
The Terror: I do believe a lot of Patho enjoyers already know of The Terror but it truly IS thee gritty depressed show of all time. Underlying themes? Match. We have colonialism, polar exploration, the Other, 19th century, naval, haunting. It made me frantically drink orange juice for week after watching it because I was so afraid of magically acquiring scurvy.
Netflix Dark: There was a brief window of time when not everything Netflix produced was slop. Dark belongs to that era. Much like Pathologic is firmly steeped in Russian literature, theatre and culture, Dark is firmly steeped in German literary canon. It’s a very intricately woven and executed narrative: as hard to believe as it is, all the increasingly convoluted plotlines are resolved logically. It’s also unbelievably harrowing to watch, at times, taking the “doomed world” to a new meaning. But if you enjoy a philosophical approach to time travel and morality of it, with a dash of nihilism, that’s the place. It’s one of my favourite shows, even if I’ve only been able to stomach watching it with someone else, but I’m just really impressed with the storytelling.
