#psychedelicsaber

As suggested by @psychedelicsaber! Thank you very much for the suggestion, I hope it was similar to what you were imagining! 

@seethem-dancing​ You’d just be handling Lara as per usual just like in every tr game, you play as Lara. Kurtis would be an extra character put onto the screen that would otherwise complement the gameplay(aka Lara’s mechanics). Like using farsee to look for a clue from a hard to reach place that even Lara couldn’t crawl into. Basically Kurtis would act as an ‘extended arm’ for Lara with his supernatural powers and both benefit from each other whereby Lara could perform other feats of strength that would aid them both in advancing into further stages. It’s just a matter of playing 1 character over the other and since it Tomb Raider, it’s pretty clear who the player’s will get to play as :) Beside Kurtis was a nice complementary character to Lara and I don’t see him as a helpful ai would hurt his overall character. It’d be a nice dynamic to see them both in action on a single screen.

seethem-dancing replied to your post: @noficbyhalves​ This might be a less popular...

I get what you mean&it is good in concept. The reason why I’m personally wary of it is because in practice - speaking from the place of my own, admittedly limited experience with gaming - it rarely benefits either character. Because the main player character can handle all the same challenges on their own&the sections where the additional player character’s help is required are often contrived&added with the sole purpose of making the sidekick character useful (in most cases such sections could’ve easily been avoided altogether&the main character would’ve benefited from acting independently). According to Richard Morton his original vision was to have Lara&Kurtis as separate player characters whose actions within the game-play would’ve indirectly affected the other (i.e Kurtis was supposed to be opening doors for Lara with his telekinesis which she would’ve later been able to enter through). That, to me, was an ideal scenario.

@psychedelicsaber​ @seethem-dancing​ What you two are describing really reminded me of in Prince of Persia Sands of Time. Occasionally Farah (not playable) will go through a crack the Prince is too big to fit through and pull a lever to open a gate for him (video). There is a section where you’re on opposite sides of a room and need to pull a series of levers to reach the bottom of the room. When it’s her turn to pull one there’s a little cutscene of her doing it and then it’s back to the game and your turn (video).

Asides from these scripted parts, she doesn’t really play a role in the gameplay. During fights she will stand on the sidelines and attack with her bow and arrow, but she is pretty useless and will even hit the Prince with them (he goes “OW!!” and she says “Sorry!!” lmao). But her role is definitely “the sidekick” aiding the Prince.

In TR, for the parts you would need to use Kurtis it would probably be quite clear that nobody else could do it, be them a man or woman. But they would have to give Lara crucial actions only doable by her, or else there’d be no reason you’d need to use her. They would need to handle it properly or else they’d be reducing Lara to Farah’s sidekick role as “she’s skinnier than him, she can enter smaller areas!”.

Definitely have only Lara can use certain weapons/equipment, but it would have to be more than that because Kurtis would obviously be capable of being able to fire a different type of gun, even if he doesn’t. It would need to be something only she is capable of doing, something like she is more accurate at shooting, she can run faster, she is more intelligent so can solve a puzzle (but that makes no sense because the player would still be solving it? idk just throwing some ideas around, I’m sure there are some obvious ones I’m missing!!)

If they were going to put this sort of thing in a AOD sequel then it would be best if you could swap between the two characters (they actually did this in the GBA version of Sands of Time - video). That way it’s still single player and up to you to work out who has the skills you need, or maybe a level can be completed in two different ways depending on who you currently have selected? Something like a collapsing floor and Lara is fast enough to run over it, but Kurtis is slower [and heavier] so he would fall through and have to take an alternate route? Then you’d need to play the game twice to explore everything, so it would be like 2 games in 1.

Hi! Thanks for thinking about me! To be honest I have zero experience at making newspaper headlines… I think the last time I did one was for school homework years ago… but if no one is willing to help you with this I can try. 

In any case, I think there is a better way to do it, are you familiar with the TRAOD hidden/unused/deleted content? I mean not only concept art but also hidden audios. There is some content there that might help to construct a newspaper headlines about the Monstrum killings very easily, I guess. Even the intro of the game itself it’s very helpful because it’s a police report.

I like very much the format you suggest because also in Bloodline, which was gonna be Kurtis’ spin-off game, was constructed between headlines. Just to give you ideas.

I think @artofangelofdarkness and @hydraballista are more familiar with what you request, the first one being very familiar and used with TRAOD hidden/unused/deleted content, and the second one because she’s working in a Bloodline comic.

@psychedelicsaber (spelled it right this time whoops haha) - I understand we have different opinions but I don’t know how many more ways I can try to explain mine. They were asking for £60,000 for the basic project, £180,000 to have everybody else involved. They got £70,000 and are saying they’re able to have the extra people involved. That’s a £50,000 difference in what they claimed was required. This part isn’t your or my opinion, it’s fact.

Our interpretations of the £50,000 discrepancy are where our opinions differ. I can see that you’re seeing it as “he’s sacrificing his own money”, but I’m seeing it as “why did they ask for £180,000 if it was doable for £70,000?”. If £50,000 was required for the extra people and is currently being “given up” to get them, then that means only £20,000 is being used on the basic project. If only £20,000 was needed for the basic project, why did they have £60,000 as their basic goal?

I agree especially when trying to explain in text because some people might interpret it differently than what you actually meant. And since english isn’t even my first language, it’s challenging to maintain neutral without sounding like I’m screaming in your face. Glad we’ve settled our differences. You’re okay in my book :)

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