If Sakurai somehow decided to give me at least one each of the Proto Beasts and Neo Swords in Smash,
Who would be chosen as the two fighters?
Just do all the Proto Beasts as one fighter and all the Neo Swords as the other
Wake and Leaves (bc theyāre special)
Fire and Crown (bc itās always those two. Itās kinda oddly satisfying)
Wild card: Boulder and Bolt (hell will freeze b4 Boulder gets special treatment)
Voting ended onDec 30, 2025
I feel like the āwhole trios as one fighterā option kinda means itāll be harder for certain stuff to be done for them, especially given not only are the terms āProto Beastsā and āNeo Swordsā fully fanmade but the trios donāt actually have official names anyway. The closest thing we have to actual terms I guess is just āParadox PokĆ©mon based on/resembling the Legendary Beasts/Swords of Justiceā and thatās a bit of a mouthful. Luckily my ideas for their alt costumes still work quite well even if there is only one PokĆ©mon per fighter for the two of them (the alt ideas I had were well obviously their default appearances just maybe slightly fluffier/more metallic than SV (if the latterās even possible. SV is very good at making metallic PokĆ©mon look metallic), a three-way colour swap, the other three-way colour swap, shinies, shinies colour-swapped, shinies colour-swapped again, modern-day counterpartsā colour schemes (I think the Neo Swords can keep the black parts of their eyes though), red, orange and gold/purple, blue and silver). From a meta perspective this would be the best option bc then everyone in Smash gets to meet all of the Proto Beasts and Neo Swords. From a different meta perspective it would be the hardest to program in and also name and from an in-universe perspective theyāre individually only outclassed by Mewtwo out of the PokĆ©mon in terms of strength and only Red and Leafās PokĆ©mon get to team up out of the PokĆ©mon and they canāt all be on the platform at the same time so itās kinda unrealistic (as if the whole idea of two kinda neglected trios being among the first choices for PokĆ©mon when Meowscarada, Eevee, the Fire Knights, Iron Valiant and any PokĆ©mon that just got a Mega especially Zeraora are right there wasnāt unrealistic enough)
For Wake and Leaves, Iād like to believe their special treatment due to the Scarlet Suicune and Violet Virizion alliteration has the potential to mean at least for crossover appearances theyād be the ones to be prioritised (clearly outside crossover appearances thatās not the case bc Wake is actually the worst treated by TPC out of the Proto Beasts and the only Proto Beast to be treated worst than its Violet counterpart which is strange because they also always seem to like promoting Suicune the best of the Legendary Beasts. Maybe they just donāt like the idea of their favourites being āreplacedā but then that doesnāt explain why Fire gets treated better than Bolt or why Boulder is treated so badly). The only thing is I kinda feel like the other three options subvert the much-hated āanime swordfighterā trope much better. Leaves only really subverts it because itās a robotic quadrupedal deer whereas putting them all together as a trio means theyāre three in one rather than one in one, Crown is a special fighter so gets to bring magic beams to the battle fired from its horns instead of just using its swords as swords and Boulder is the only Neo Sword that probably wouldnāt be considered the robotic quadruped animal equivalent of a twink
Fire and Crown are just satisfying as a duo to me and it feels like they get paired up unusually frequently (admittedly half of those are things that are more personal to me, like me getting their tins but still not having Boulder or Boltās tins or how Apple and Passionfruit seem very interested in Blueberry and Cherry respectively while Orange and Lemon seem to third wheel a lot more and both of those examples now that I think about it seem to be less about how itās always Fire and Crown and more about how itās never lupus Boulder and Bolt. Thereās also the fact that I headcanon the two of them are the closest to their Paradox setsā stereotypes plus the two of them have the closest colour schemes of their respective trios to their versionsā theme colours even though I tend to treat red as Boltās theme colour and apple green as Fireās theme colour and Violet isnāt as obsessed with blue as Scarlet is with whichever out of red and orange isnāt its main theme colour (I guess orange))
It wonāt be Boulder and Bolt, I just put them there for completionistās sake. I donāt even think the two of them are that satisfying as a duo. Orange and yellow are just too close to each other as colours (which apparently doesnāt stop me from pairing Wake and Leaves up despite blue and green also being next to each other on a colour wheel but hey edit: somehow forgot about the colours I consider to be my top 2 favourite PokĆ©monās theme colours purple and pink also being next to each other on the colour wheel). They do both have the most powerful-feeling signature moves though (at least when Thunderclap is actually allowed to attack) so thatās something even though Mighty Cleave has a high chance of being weaker than Psyblade (Leaves has 10 points more in Attack than Boulder does so it will default to being the stronger move when taking Attack stats into account, Boulder has 4 points higher in Speed than Attack so itās slightly more likely to have its Speed boosted with Quark Drive than Attack while Leavesās highest stat is its Attack so itās more likely to get an Attack boost, Psyblade is boosted by Electric Terrain whereas Mighty Cleave isnāt. Mighty Cleave is however 15 points higher in base power than Psyblade) but who likes the fat robot amiright (sarcasm. I love it)
No other options because I think giving the DLC-exclusive Paradoxes their actual counterparts wouldnāt be as fun and it would piss me off if they decided to pretend Leaves is a counterpart of either Fire or Bolt. Or Wake with either Boulder or Crown I just think itās more likely to be the former bc Leaves is treated the best of the Neo Swords and Wake is treated the worst of the Proto Beasts. Justice for all six of them