Adam Curtis: A good political film makes people reflect on themselves. The problem is that over the past 30 or 40 years, the movies that call themselves political have actually been the very opposite. They groom their audiences by saying to them: āYou are right to think and believe the way you do.ā In that way, they encourage people to wallow in their self-righteousness and so block any self-reflection. Which means that so many āradical moviesā are actually reactionary.
There is no way forward unless people actually reflect on the limitations of their own self-righteousness and the possible dangers it has for society.
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Ari Aster: Thereās a feedback loop of nostalgia. Not just nostalgia and trauma. Weāre always looking back into the past to see why we are here right now. āOh, itās because this happened to me.ā As opposed to ā and this is what youāve been talking about for ever ā where is the new idea? Where is our vision of the future? Because nobody believes in the future any more. I donāt believe in the future, and Iām desperately looking for it.
Adam Curtis: Youāre right about trauma. Increasingly over the last four or five years, people have retreated into themselves and are blaming their own past. Theyāre not only playing back the music or films of the past, theyāre playing back their own past and finding in those fragments of their memory the reasons why they are feeling bad, anxious, uncertain, afraid and lonely ā and itās given the term trauma. Trauma is a very specific, real and frightening for those who experience it. But recently itās been widened to such an extent that you are blaming yourself all the time through your own reworking of the past. Rather like AI goes back and reworks the past and plays it back to you. Now youāre doing that to yourself
From "āNobody believes in the future any moreā: Adam Curtis and Ari Aster on how to wake up from the post-truth nightmare" by Adam Curtis and Ari Aster, with Paul MacInnes, from the Guardian, published on 8 August 2025.