there was a post on my dash a few days ago about an interview with jensen about the prequel. he talks about casting, and about how the actor they hired for john had both sam (1) and dean (1) in him, and the actress they hired for mary had dean (2) energy (that none of the other actresses were serving, apparently). and the post rightfully pointed out that dean himself is there (3). so three deans to one sam, they noticed.
(edit: here is the link for anyone interested)
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and looking at the reviews about how bland the pilot is, i canāt help but think thatās part of why?Ā
the thing that is magic about supernatural is the gravitational push and pull between sam and dean and the forces that are so much bigger than them.
youĀ couldĀ have that in the prequel. the gravitational push and pull between john and mary and the forces that are so much bigger than them.Ā
itās literally the canon backstory!Ā
the first time they met, they bumped into each other and (presumably on trained instincts) mary laid john on his ass then apologized, and he was smitten. but he was only smitten because of cupidās arrow. the cupid we meet in canon tells sam and dean that their parents werenātĀ a good match, that they didnātĀ (wouldnāt?) get along, and that their relationship was ordained and the love was manufactured.
so you have the gravity, right there. the push and the pull. the fighting and the mismatch despite the passion and the love they literally cannot help but feel. and it lends itself so well to telling an unhinged story where two people meet and fall in some kind of love at first sight and are weirdĀ about each other!Ā
(in the way that sam and dean areĀ weirdĀ about each other. breaking in in the middle of the night and fighting your brother is weird! disappearing out the door with someone you havenāt seen in two years while lying to your partner about why is weird! itās all unhinged and so it compels the audience!)
to make that work on screen, you need to set up opposing dynamics so you get the push and pull, and you need chemistry. like, a lot of chemistry. the other magic of spn is the insane off the charts on screen chemistry that J2 have. lightning in a bottle, right?
the thing that made me ultimately decide not to watch the prequel was maryās casting and character styling. despite being one of the few people actually excited about the story conceit (i love john and mary as characters!! iām genuinely interested to see how the lying and hunting and vietnam trauma and the personality clash all played out!!), as soon as i saw the first promotional photos, the tentative hope iād been harbouring for the show died a quiet death.
not only did this version not look much like either of the other two marys we had met in terms of face and height, but she had thick eyeliner and straight hair and a black leather jacket and a hard look and scowl. none of that jives at all with the mary we know and not just because she was sanctified in the memory of winchester men. we met young mary and she was dressed in bright tones with bright eyes!Ā she was full of smiles (and lies), full of dreams for her own future, with bouncy curly hair and emotional frustrations and vulnerabilities.Ā
she was bringing sam, not dean.Ā
mary campbell is a rebel. she is like both her sons in different ways, much the same as john. there are parallels on both sides and i think itās fruitless to say who is paralleled more to whom in the (main) show, who has more of whoās personality. but in that arc, in her youth, mary campbell wanting to leave the hunting life and have a civilian life with her partner john winchester was absolutely a parallel to samās similar yearning for freedom, for safety and simplicity.Ā
so we know already -- maryās rebellion looks like samās rebellion. itās not the devil may care attitude of dean, itās a more serious and anxious rebellion against her upbringing. sheās tense but soft. easily annoyed but not sarcastic, possibly too earnest (in itself a perfect lie, something that makes her interesting because sheās anything but honest with john). doe-eyed so that when she drops you on your ass, youāre shocked. this small woman with her sweet smile is kicking your ass? what in the - ?Ā
casting a mary that is bringing forward features of dean, styling her in such a way as to look harsh and ābadassā instead of downright preppy, giving her that look and attitude and all of it?Ā misses the point.Ā
there is no dean without sam. or at least no story about dean worth watching. because there is no gravitational push-pull between dean and ... dean. meaning that if both the prequel leads are bringing deanās energy to their role, there is no chemistry.Ā
electricity isnāt formed without opposing charged ions. thereās no lightning in a bottle when everything is the same.
(there is no sense of pull between them to prompt a push.Ā and when it comes time to write the push in anyway, without the pull? it will feel discordant and unconvincing to the audienceās eye. it will rankle.)
this issue sits as central, to me, even before any retconning of the original story. before the complete lack of 1970s vibe, and before what iāve seen about them possibly(idk???) getting maryās age wrong, and what iāve heard about them making john bumbling or boring despite being a literalĀ marineĀ (who are...extreme) who quite literallyĀ just came back from vietnam, likely traumatized and intense. before the fact that they literally copy+pasted the plot of spn to the prequel with maryās dad going missing.Ā
all of these features, alongside the casting issues, the styling issues, all of it right down to the original prequelgate itself, speak to the same fundamental issue -Ā
the prequel is missing heart.Ā
the lack of sam (not even in presence so much as in essence) functions like a hole in the heart of the show from which it is bleeding inward. the lack of love letter to time era, to the stylings and setting reads like a lack of love to the story itself. the lack of care put in to re-introducing us to the version of mary that we knew, those changes to her style and personality and story, read like an insult to those of us who loved her already, as if she was not worthy of a place in the heart of the creators as she already was.
i wanted to love this show. desperately, i really did. the day it leaked, before iād heard about the rest of the ensuing prequelgate nonsense, i wrote a post in defense of the concept (since deleted). i wanted so badly to love it. i canāt. because i feel like the people creating it donāt love it.Ā
many will take this as a critique of jensen ackles and to some extent, it is, but mostly just a critique of trying to create a new show half-cocked while splitting his time acting on a handful of other projects instead of dedicating himself to the time and energy this show needed in order to be a success. i have no idea what his vision was for this story, and iām not convinced he had a core vision.Ā
(for whatever else you might critique about kripkeās era of spn, it had a visionĀ and it knew what it was. that vision was central to its resonance.)
more than that though, itās a critique of all theĀ producers and creators involved who thought that they could build off of what we already loved while gutting the core pieces we loved in the first place, while replacing these elements with their own versions instead, versions seemingly uninterested in the emotional foundations on which they were building.Ā
i canāt help but feel they were arrogant enough to think that making us love it would be as simple as checking boxes on a list and slapping a shine over it, thinking weād be satisfied with the empty shell they deigned to put together. that they didnāt need to push each other, challenge the story, question the character favoritism or biases the team members were bringing to the table.
itās the dean story with dean producers and writers and no one thought to question if they needed more balance? if the story needed more heart? if john was intense enough, if mary was sweet enough, if the characters had dimensions?Ā
was it ignorance? arrogance? were they all too up their own asses that they dismissed legitimate concerns as fandom wank because of prequelgate and fandom bullshit until it was too late?Ā
iām sorry, that got more charged than i intended. bottom line,Ā this isnāt a love letter to supernatural or its fans. love takes effort and dedication and care and heart. iām not convinced the prequel has any.
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I've taught the same couple classes for a few years, and each term the percent/volume of questions about the assignments has gone up, based on the same (or more!) starting info in the outlines and rubrics. Students are so focused on getting The Right Answer and doing things Right that they don't trust their own judgement and ask a ton of questions to make sure they're doing things right or want an excruciating level of detail.
And honestly? It's exhausting and a little frustrating.
I want students to succeed and feel confident in themselves, but I also don't want to be holding the hand of whole ass adults and telling them which specific passages in the textbook are the most critical to focus on and that yes they're on the right track with that analysis or that it's fine to interpret as they've done or that yes when we say apply the concepts from class those are the concepts we mean and yes when we say make a critical judgment we do expect you to apply critical thinking and evidence and that's exactly what it says in the assignment outline and -
I know it comes from a place of anxiety and it's how they're trained so I don't put this frustration back on the student but as an educator, it feels like a certain amount of bullshit to be teaching graduate level classes with the same degree of hand holding I would have sought as a student in *maybe* my first term of uni but realistically only sought early to midway through high school, if that.
The kids (and many of the adults) aren't all right, y'all. And the burn out and burden this places on everyone else in the system is just as much of a problem.
not having emotions isnāt a thing. or at the very very least, itās not a thing for soulless!sam. the writers hand-waved āsoulless doesnāt feelā but that makes no sense and theyāre wrong and it falls apart if we so much as poke it with a twig, let alone a proper stick.
emotions are information that act as input into decision-making. the very limited cases of human beings lacking the ability to feel fear or any other particular emotion, or lacking emotional input into their decisions? yeah, itās not good. either wander into danger they canāt handle because there is no input into the decision-making process that says No, Donāt Do That, or at the extreme end, they canāt make decisions because they have no insight into what they might prefer or want or desire, or even not prefer or not want or not desire, so each minor choice is paralyzing because the part of the brain dedicated to do the choosing doesnāt exist.
if soulless really didnāt have emotions, he wouldnāt be doing much at all.
you can say āheās making choices based on physiological stimulusā and that desire (like a desire for sex, or a desire to get a hunt completed and kill the monster) isnāt a feeling, but i promise you that it is, and that we canāt fully or truly disentangle physiology from emotion either.
in fact soulless!sam seems to have no issue whatsoever experiencing positive emotions like desire, enjoyment, contentment, satisfaction, pride, etc. He seems capable of vexation and irritation too. We donāt really see him angry in the same way sam would be, but he does sort of go into a violent rage and beat someone with his bare fists in a flashback, right? i promise that without emotion, exerting that kind of energy on a task just... wouldnāt happen. because youāre incapable of caring about the outcome of the task, no matter how ārationalā or ālogicalā that outcome may seem (because whatās rational and logical depend on what we care about and what goals we have selected, which again, occurs in the context of having emotions to guide us toward what those desired end states might look like).
soulless!sam seems, as far as i can tell, to lack two things: 1) the ability to experience bonds with others, and 2) the ability to intuit or experience conscious insight into his own emotions.
on the first, his lack of connection to dean despite understanding he prefers to have him around, his willingness to kill bobby, his complete and utter lack of care for lisa and ben despite knowing on some level that he should care about them, or would if he were his usual self, even if only as an extension of who and what dean cares about. soulless just... doesnāt experience that deeply human need for social connection nor the automatic way it manifests nor any bonding toward others. some failure of oxytocin going on there (the soul is stored in the oxytocin receptor site?).
on the second, sam doesnāt know what heās feeling when he hasnāt got a soul. he equates that with not really feeling anything, or at least that what weāre told as shorthand pretty quickly, because what he actually says when asked what heās feeling is āi donāt knowā. because - he doesnāt. but that doesnāt mean heās not actually feeling anything, it means he has no conscious insight into it.
his feelings are just feelings to him, just information. they are understood in terms of how they impact his end state aims (i want to finish this hunt, i want to have sex with this hippie chick, i donāt want to put up with this fairy lady, i donāt want to suffer by having my soul put back in) but are not understood in and of themselves (i donāt know if i feel angry or sad or happy in response to setbacks or steps forward toward these desired ends. at most i know i experience a sense of satisfaction when my aims are accomplished, but this is understood mostly through checking that aim off the list and being able to direct my attention and resources toward new goals. i donāt know why i do this, i just do).
the lack of bonding means he doesnāt feel interpersonal guilt or remorse for hurt and harm he has caused, nor a sense of loss or grief based on his connections (or lack thereof) with others, nor an anticipatory sense of guilt, remorse, grief, or regret at pursuing interpersonal harm, so long as the harm is deemed as needed or even just helpful in furthering one of his desired end goals. this increases our perception that he doesnāt have feelings at all, when what heās really missing are mostly a subset of social emotions, and thatās not even unique to soulless people! (and look, i donāt want to go down the rabbit hole of how fucked up i think it is that the writers, intentionally or not (but i suspect intentionally) more or less equated samās soullessness with some clinical features of psychopathy.)
anyway thatās more or less my rant. the concept of soullessness and how it manifests bothers the shit out of me, the explanations for it in-universe are misleading (though understandable in-universe even if iād expect cas to provide a clearer explanation tbh), soulless!sam feels a lot, and i still havenāt managed to do a proper/full s6 rewatch as a result of my vexation.
Still not over someone saying that being part of community should require absolutely no effort
If you just show up and take, and even worse just show up and demand an existing community change to suit your needs without putting in even basic effort to learn how it operates
You aren't talking about community... You're talking about exploitation and colonising
Half my colleagues don't understand/accept the concept of headphones and have full-volume zoom meetings without headphones in their offices along my hall. There is no soundproofing because this building was poorly designed. Even if there was, our offices have both glass windows that face into the hall as well as glass doors with unclosable open window/gaps along the top for airflow.
Some of them also have some of the most naturally booming voices designed to carry that I've ever heard. Across the hall or down the hall it doesn't matter, you can hear every word.
And some of them will do this even when they're on a zoom call with at least one another person in our hallway, and sometimes you can literally hear the echo from one person speaking and then it coming out of another's speakers two doors down.
I'm going to murder my colleagues, is what I'm saying.
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iām getting real tired of seeing tumblr reduce the ācharacter chooses not to kill their enemyā trope to acting like the story saying āif i kill my enemy iām as bad as them ~ UwU ~ā
like yeah, we can criticize that as a pretty weak message. but yāall get thatās not what these stories are saying, right?
the point of choosing not to kill/murder in the villain in revenge isnātĀ āiāll be as bad as this villain if i kill themā itās ācontinuing a cycle of violence and revenge is incapable of bringing either justice or peace.ā
vengeance isnāt justice. thatās not how a person lays their ghosts and traumas to rest.Ā
iām not saying i donāt support the idea of bringing a villain to justice; i do. justice matters. Iām also not saying villains should be consequence free to continue to hurt others in the future.Ā but that isĀ actuallyĀ not the same thing as vengeance.
often the notion of vengeance goes hand-in-hand with that of justice, with stopping the villain, and also with saving vulnerable others -- all of which result to frame the hero in a positive light as they mete out vengeance (and thus draw critique from tumblr if and when they forego vengeance or murder). and we can problematize this broad-strokes conflation of killing, vengeance, justice, duty, and protection of the vulnerable, and we can talk about why thatās interesting and flawed and humanĀ and what we give (and take) from a story when we do that, but thatās not the conversation i see yāall having.
and look yesĀ there is a deeply flawed message in some of these stories about powerful elite doing horrible things and then the underdog hero who is a victim of these elite ultimately forgiving the villain for their selfish greed and violence, leading in the confines of the story to a complete lack of justice.Ā
so letās haveĀ that conversation if youāre ready for it. a conversation about why weāre told that death/murder is justice, and that no other forms of justice should be considered, and that failing that we should set aside our quest for justice and forgive our abusers and allow the villains to be consequence free.Ā
andĀ iām not saying that stories in which a hero kills a villain or another person are all bad and evil, or that protagonists and heroic characters shouldnāt ever be killers. that would throw out like 85% of the media i consume tbh. but good god some of what iāve seen is exhaustingly reductive on the subject and when we sayĀ āconsume media criticallyā it meansĀ this. it means consider the messages and themes underlying what youāre being told by a story.
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(and look we can also have a totally separate discussion about framing death as the āonlyā means to enact oneās duty or theĀ āonlyā means to prevent future harm from an individual. thatās a conversation super worth having.Ā
andĀ i acknowledge that stories are also exploring these themes not necessarily as an endorsement of this message either. sometimes when handled well these stories are actually critique of our very flawed justice systems in which those with power can escape consequence, posing difficult questions of what the hell do we do with ourselves at that point, both as justiceless victims and as a function of our real or perceived duty to others. depicting the hero killing the villain is not necessarily an endorsement, and can act as an exploration of how these systems harm people, with the hero killing the villain framed as a tragedyĀ not a triumph. but thatās also not the conversation weāre having here)
anyway tumblr iām tired of your tired takes on storytelling.
am i seriously supposed to enjoy a movie where no woman has a speaking line until 40 minutes in (and itās to offer a man sex), and all attempts at trope-subversion literally retread the exact same territory in the exact same way as before, with the only addition being a sort of dark humour layered into them?
anyway iām tired of critics loving movies that are literally too annoying to sit through.
Iām finally working through some of my thesis revisions and this one dude on my committee makes me want to either facepalm or put my head through a wall, undecided as to which.Ā
Like I control for participant suspicion in all of my experiments because Iām using deception in my studies and my undergrad education in psych labs really pushed the importance of participants believing the cover story for internal validity of an experiment, right?
So I say in the first experiment what items I used to measure it, then keep referring back to that study. And this dude on my committee, in his revision notes, is likeĀ āyou need to say what items you use and put them in an appendixā.Ā
And Iām like... dude??? They are - right there. Just - right here. Wasnāt hiding them. Same items, all studies, kept referring back to them all the time. Right here. Iām not putting them in an appendix, they belong in the main text, right where I put them, the whole time.
But thatās easy, simple mistake, the type Iād honestly make so eh (except this dude noticed a typo in my citations list like he went through this shit with a fine fucking toothed comb and somehow missed that???) -Ā
But then heās likeĀ āand you need to include in the appendix what happens to all the results if you donāt control for thisā
And iām like did you miss the giant bolded section calledĀ ārobustness analysesā where I already do that?!
And I know he read that section and didnāt just miss it because the dude refers to it specifically when (wrongly) complaining about how I donāt specifically detail the items I used for suspicion.Ā
(I guess we wants me to put in more detail probably? About the individual analyses and how they vary, not just a reporting the most important piece of info but like all the contrasts and details. Which I can totally do, I originally had more in but my advisors cut it down with their revision notes but aggghhhhh - )