#occamshipper

@occamshipper decided to flood me with responses instead of responding back. So I'll reply here. Mostly I want to talk about the way he argues as opposed to debunking him in general. He's basically a walking, talking fallacy.

occamshipper @brainrotmeta Congratulations. Your entire post was a display of complete lack of reading comprehension and an inevitable test of how many of your followers are equally illiterate that you couldn't differentiate my talk about CBS-WB coproduction of Winchesters from Jared getting his own spinoff. And the rest is you just making whiny emotional appeals so. Go off, I guess? Wave that Stupid Flag with pride!

In my last post with him, I actually addressed a lot of the claims he made. Mostly I focused on his claim that Jared got a prequel deal because he threw a tantrum at CBS. There's no proof of this at all. Instead of dealing the lack of poof, he decided to say I'm stupid and move on.

That's not how you make an argument or even have reasonable discussion.

It's also what people often end up resorting to when they know they've 'lost'. Aaron/Occamshipper does this to me a lot. When they don't have anything against my points, he calls me dumb. When he does have a point against mine, he's generally more reasonable and can refrain from calling me an idiot.

occamshipper @brainrotmeta like jesus christ it takes a special kind of dumb to try (and generally fail) to break that paragraph apart to nitpick and argue it (badly), realize I was talking about SPN, then come to the conclusion I was talking about JARED getting his spinoff, and then expect me to argue with [checks notes] your inability to read or follow the discussion? Yeah, no, Independence has nothing to do with that. Re-read the first paragraph, but slowly, before arguing w/it.

And he does. Aaron just makes up a reality that doesn't exist. He was talking about Jared. I'd say this is a form of gaslighting, but it's so incompetent and divorced from reality, that I sometimes wonder.

occamshipper @brainrotmeta You literally put the brainrot in your username, I can't explain what a perfect dunning-kreuger specimen you are, that you always enter a debate so woefully underequipped you can't even deduce which property I'm talking about about the shared production rights? And go off into looney tunes land connecting "Jared's tantrum got him his own spinoff"? What in the genuine fuck is your data processing disorder.

It's interesting here that Aaron can't even point to where I'm woefully underequipped. He doesn't point to any of my allegedly poor reasoning. It's also really funny he's denying that he implied the loon tunes logic of "Jared's tantrum got him his own spin-off," when that's exactly what he implied here:

And after all, Jared's tantrum whined its way into CBS getting breakout rights (without IP rights, just Jared Rights) to The Winchesters production, so if Jared Wants More Than Just Walker, they can... profit off that in SPN anyway??? while running Zorro??

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Which, to be fair, might not be what he's implying. Who the hell exactly knows. It's incoherent.

occamshipper I AM DECEASED BRAINROT CAN'T TOLERATE THAT I WON'T SHARE HER INABILITY TO READ TO MY BLOG OPENLY AND CAN'T STAND BEING TAGGED POINTING OUT THAT HER ENTIRE ARGUMENT IS BASED ON FUNDAMENTALLY MISREADING EVERYTHING *BEFORE* ARGUING WITH SHIT SHE MISUNDERSTOOD, HELP

I can't tolerate that Aaron won't share my inability to read his blog openly? What does that mean. I can't stand being tagged in ways pointing out my argument is based on a fundamental misreading? Where?

occamshipper @brainrotmeta EXCELLENT WORK

Thank you. :) (/joking btw)

occamshipper What a genuinely dishonest coward it takes to try to block or remove those.

I posted on my main as opposed to my side blog, deleted it on my main blog after reblogging on brainrotmeta. I'm not sure how that accounts for blocking or removing? But this might just be on tumblr, which is a hot mess.

occamshipper RIIIIP lmaooo brainrot is actively hiding if I reply directly under her blog pointing out she literally made a whole assed post based on her inability to read. Like she misread it. Misunderstood it. Then argued with her own misunderstanding.

I did no such thing. I will say I had you blocked on main but I unblocked you for now. I think blocking on main can affect sideblogs, but it hasn't been consistent with me tbh.

occamshipper 10/10, can't do that when I reply under my own blog, @brainrotmeta

I'm just posting this to show I'm posting all of Aaron's responses.

occamshipper The living embodiment of dunning-kreuger, folks. I'm not going to subject you to spamming your dashboards with her arguing with her own inability to read, but I deeply invite you to look at @brainrotmeta's reblog, then laugh, and laugh, because of how bad she misread/misunderstood literally everything.

I think it's funny that he's accusing me of hiding from him, but is deciding not to reblog my points against him. If I'm so easy to argue against, why not do so? If I'm unworthy of your attention, why spam me with these responses?

occamshipper I'm just gonna. Chucklebomb the fuck out of these notes, thank you again for bringing comedy into my life, @brainrotmeta, with you once again illustrating you can't even track what property is being referenced in a given paragraph while trying to argue who said what about what spinoff oh my fuck holy shit.

It's also interesting he's deflecting from my major point. We've been having a back and forth on twitter about how the issues he's talking about aren't about Jared or a J2 competition with each other and then turns around not much later and makes a post about how much of manbaby Jared is and declares to the world that Jensen is way ahead of Jared in prequel development. That is attacking Jared and the premise of your Jensen is way ahead of Jared hot takes is based on competition.

He's smart and sometimes he writes smart metas but he seems psychotic to me. It may be schizofrenia or bipolar disorder but psychosis can also have other causes like drug abuse or depression or a physical condition.

I have a close friend who is psychotic and before a episode their posts look a lot like Occam's ones. Very very long ramblings about stuff nobody asked about, obssessions, delusions of grandeur, my friend jumps from a topic to another one without any logical structure, there are very intense supernatural beliefs, persecution delusions etc. Some stuff can be real or even smart, it's not like they become stupid, but they lose the ability to discern reality from imagination.

I'm afraid it's maniacal psychosis. There may be weeks when a person thinks and acts strangely while they're still able to live functionally, but if it's escalating it will end up in hallucinations and a total breakdown w/o the abilities to tell what's real and how to live normally.

Occam if you're reading this, I beg you to call a psychiatrist and get into therapy. Now you may be still able to get help on your own term, in your own home, if it will get worse who knows. My friend got hospitalised in the end and now has no control over her life.

That's so sad. I'm very sorry for your friend. And it's really very similar to occam's behaviour.

Occam really looks like a very smart and intelligent person. But these apparently psychotic episodes of him make you doubt what is real and what isn't from the things he says. One of the last things he has said is that in TW "Cas is almost the whole point", so it's so important that he's second only to Dean, and even more than the John and Mary arcs. And of course if Cas is there it will be to adress destiel.

I really hope he's right, and maybe this is true and it's one of his moments of brilliance. But these are very big words; if that finally doesn't happen, if we don't get destiel or not even scenes with Cas, the backlash of the whole destiel fandom against him will be unbeareable.

Whether he's right or not, I think he shouldn't inflate the hype bubble.