Didn't have a diagnosis cake after my autism assessment 3 years ago as I found the whole process and its aftermath quite traumatic… there was lots of grieving the person that I feel like I could have been if only I had been diagnosed earlier and sadness over how much I had attributed my struggles to a personal failing rather than as the consequence of a lifelong disability. But after (finally!!!) being diagnosed with ADHD too today, I feel a much greater sense of relief and optimism for the future, as I hope I can continue to understand myself better and cut myself some more slack because I’m not lazy or broken… I’m just different!
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I find it very funny that the people organising my ADHD assessment (which is finally tomorrow!!) have texted me multiple reminders over the past few days… they definitely know their audience, I’ll give them that!!
However, less fun is the fact that having three weeks notice has meant that I’ve been on permanent Waiting Mode™ since I found out the date,, which is a form of torture in itself. And also the fact that the appointment starts at EIGHT THIRTY and will last for THREE HOURS!?!?! Maybe this is somehow part of the assessment lol.
Anyway, excited to finally have some more clarity about why I am Like This and also a bit nervous because I hate talking about myself!!! Also hoping that with this off my mind I’ll finally be able to get back to posting regularly because I’ve missed losing my mind over The Book™ on here!! :)
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After learning how to draw anatomy, I find I hate it cause it doesn't have yummy shapes. I wanna draw anatomically questionable bodies like yes, I want my oc to have a ostrich neck and make no sense.
So this popped into my head when I was reading your answer to the ask on whether Mary Bennet is autistic (I agree with your answer btw): I know Sense and Sensibility isn't your specialty, but I'm now wondering if Marianne Dashwood could be fairly read as autistic.
Thanks for your question! I haven't read Sense and Sensibility for a while, so I might be a little rusty, but I've done my best and included some quotes from the text. Happy, as always, for others to chip in with their own interpretations, but this is my perspective as an autistic Austen enthusiast:
I can absolutely see why Marianne might be a relatable character for autistic people, as (unlike Mary Bennet, who is chiefly a cautionary tale of poor parenting) I do think Marianne has many things in common with us, especially when it comes to social situations. She barely puts any effort in when it comes to making small talk, and she behaves inappropriately with Willoughby (including going off with him unsupervised) and then seemingly doesn't understand the scandal her behaviour could embroil her family in and why Elinor is so disappointed with her. Also, she struggles to contain her emotions and has plenty of outbursts, which is behaviour that feels familiar when considering what meltdowns feel like.
I find it disheartening that there is usually a considerable amount of pushback whenever the possibility that an Austen character could be autistic is raised, because I do think that finding characters who have things in common with you when you are disabled can be a considerable source of comfort. If you relate to a character's struggles, then I think that is quite a personal thing and these discussions should be handled with care rather than immediate dismissal. Additionally, I find these immediate shutdowns of discussions, on the basis that it 'wasn't what Austen intended!!' unconvincing because she could hardly have included conscious, thoughtful representation for a condition that wasn't first diagnosed until more than a century after she died.
Yet, even if there was no name for it, autistic people have always been here, and being the incredible observer of character that Austen was, it absolutely stands to reason that she would have encountered some neurodivergent people in her lifetime (her brother George was disabled, and though this is slightly different, Austen mentioned being able to talk to a deaf man 'a little with my fingers' in a letter, presumably in an early form of sign language).
Personally, I believe there are no neurotypical explanations for Mr Woodhouse and Mr Collins. However, when it comes to Marianne (much like my opinion on why Mr Darcy struggles in company) I believe there is another, more plausible explanation for why she struggles so much with her emotions and with adhering to social norms.
Marianne is a teenager, who is going through an incredibly tumultuous time. She does not yet have the emotional maturity to deal with the complex feelings that she is confronted with due to the various changes in her life, i.e. her father's death, which means that she must leave her family home, move far away and find her place in a brand new social circle; experiencing her first love in Willoughby, only for the courtship to abruptly end with his departure, before she ultimately discovers (after yet more upheaval in the form of going to London) that he is engaged to someone else and had no serious intention to marry her.
That is a lot for anyone to deal with, but it is especially difficult for someone as young (and sheltered!) as Marianne to come to terms with. I think if Marianne were older, an autistic reading of her would compel me more but she's a teenager and almost all teenagers are emotionally immature hormonal nightmares at some point during their adolescence. It is a universal experience for everyone at Marianne's age (16/17) to learn these lessons, of how they fit in the world.
Marianne is initially quite selfish, something I would argue it would less likely for her to be if she was autistic, because she wouldn't know that there were social norms to follow, whereas she seems to ignore them because she is having so much fun being swept up in her emotions towards Willoughby. I think there is a considerable difference between selfishly ignoring the consequences of your behaviour (which is how a neurotypical person would act) and having no idea that your behaviour is impacting others because you do not intuitively understand social norms (as an autistic person would). Marianne doesn't want to admit her behaviour with Willoughby is improper and could possibly expose her family to disgrace because she's a self-centred and highly emotional young lady, who is having far too much fun to consider the wider implications, as an older person with more life experience might. I think she ignores social norms, not because she fails to comprehend them, but because she doesn't consider anybody else (which is pretty standard for teenagers, they do have a tendency to be egotistical).
Also, I think if she was autistic, it's a pretty grim story, of having to learn to mask highly and compromising her own well-being, lest she continue to hurt others. But more than that, I think it would undermine Marianne's character development. From memory, Marianne's overly-emotional behaviour resembles that of her mother, whereas Elinor provides a more level-headed contrast to them both (though she still struggles with her emotions, in her own way). So Marianne becoming a better version of herself by learning to temper her emotions is not only a beautiful story of redemption, as she stops going down the same path as her mother, but it's also a lesson to readers of all ages. You can't help your nature, but you still have a responsibility to own your shortcomings and be the best version of yourself, not only for your own sake (I mean, she almost dies!) but also for the sake of everyone around you.
But I think the biggest reason why I struggle to see Marianne as autistic is found in in Chapter 42:
'Two delightful twilight walks on the third and fourth evenings of her being there, not merely on the dry gravel of the shrubbery, but all over the grounds, and especially in the most distant parts of them ... where... the grass was the longest and wettest, had—assisted by the still greater imprudence of sitting in her wet shoes and stockings—given Marianne a cold so violent though for a day or two trifled with or denied, would force itself by increasing ailments on the concern of every body, and the notice of herself.'
Reading this passage gives me chills [derogatory]; even thinking of the sensory nightmare of having wet clothes makes me cringe!! I want to cry when I accidentally splash a drop of water on my sock when doing the dishes or watering the plants in my garden, never mind walking in long wet grass and then leaving those clothes on! I jest, hyposensitivity absolutely is a thing... but still. I don't think that there is a passage in any of Austen's works that I find as upsetting as that one!
Joking aside, it is Marianne's response when she recovers from her illness that I think best illustrates that she did not lack the ability (as an autistic person might) to understand the implications of her behaviour all along, but she did not want to consider others.
This passage from Chapter 46, where Marianne goes on the walk with Elinor and sees where she first encountered Willoughby, illustrates my point:
'My illness has made me think. It has given me leisure and calmness for serious recollection. Long before I was enough recovered to talk, I was perfectly able to reflect. I considered the past: I saw in my own behaviour, since the beginning of our acquaintance with [Willoughby] last autumn, nothing but a series of imprudence towards myself, and want of kindness to others. I saw that my own feelings had prepared my sufferings, and that my want of fortitude under them had almost led me to the grave. My illness, I well knew, had been entirely brought on by myself by such negligence of my own health, as I had felt even at the time to be wrong.'
Especially the last line proves that Marianne had some degree of self-awareness, even if she was unwilling to act upon it, which I think is quite different than struggling with one's emotions due to a disability that causes difficulty in regulating them. I think such an episode of self-reflection and learning to value those around you is pretty standard as one grows up, though hopefully is is not always caused by a life-threatening illness!
In summary, rather than Marianne providing an early depiction of autism, I think Austen instead created a character who is enduringly relatable because of the struggles she faces in learning to better deal with her emotions. Above all, she is a beautiful example of how much it is possible to grow into a better version of yourself thanks to the people around you, and her learning to appreciate the virtues of Elinor's personality is very touching. It really makes me wish I had a sister!