Dec 31, 2016
INTP slept all afternoon.
ESTJ: You accomplished nothing today. Aren't you disappointed in yourself?
INTP: Honey, I've been disappointing myself since I was born.
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INTP slept all afternoon.
ESTJ: You accomplished nothing today. Aren't you disappointed in yourself?
INTP: Honey, I've been disappointing myself since I was born.
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Y'all seem to know a lot about mbti. I have a question. Whenever I take the type quiz, I always flip-flop between ENFJ and INFJ. My introvert/extrovert scores are always extremely close, and in other personality tests measuring introversion/extroversion, I am in the middle. Am I both, an ambivert? Is there a certain type that is more ambivert between the two? I don't really know anyone else who is like this so I need an objective source to tell me.
In MBTI theory, you can only be one type. Since you describe yourself as an ambivert, you can’t really rely on the I/E dichotomy.
ENFJ’s functions are: FeNiSeTi.
The ENFJ’s most developed and preferred function is Fe (dominant). The least developed is Ti (inferior).
INFJ’s Functions are: NiFeTiSe
The INFJ’s most developed and preferred function is Ni (dominant). The least developed is Se (inferior).I suggest you find out which function is your most developed one, the one that comes most naturally to you. The inferior function is the least developed and least preferred. The order of your functions will determine if you’re an ENFJ or an INFJ.If you haven’t heard of cognitive functions before, you can read about their brief descriptions here. or wiki it.
-Rashil, INTP
Hey hey ENFP here! I'm here with a question! Could you answer it please? Is it true that if an INTP admits or outwardly shows that they were angry/frustrated with something it means they trust you and is a sign that they're close with you. (Well I mean the second option is that something managed to piss them off THAT much) Thanks~
Well depends how they’ve shown it. If an INTP frowns, it’s evident for everyone that they’re upset. If they rant, kick furniture when you’re around,and describe how much they’d like to skin someone alive in detail, then it may mean they’re comfortable enough to show that side of them. I can’t really affirm if they trust you because trust is a BIG word for us.But be assured that they at least feel close to you.The thing with inferior Fe is, we always want to maintain harmony. Showing any kind of negative emotion (especially anger and sadness) can disrupt that harmony. The INTP can be judged when these emotions show. But if we trust someone enough to show these emotions, we can be assured that there will be no judgement. When we can be authentic when we’re with someone we feel close to.An INTP will not involve themselves with someone they do not care about. Admitting frustration and anger takes a bit of vulnerability to do so. An INTP cannot be vulnerable with just anyone.
-Rashil, INTP
So, like - the past year or so, I have known what MBTI is, but the last 4-6 months, i have really started to "study" MBTI - or well, clearly not enough, since I just don't get the "ne", "fe", "si" etc. part of it. Would you please just shortly explain what each pair of letters mean, and maybe tell me (an ENTP) what pair of letters i have? - From me, a danish, fifteen y/o ENTP :DDD
ok, you’re talking about the cognitive functions.Your’s are: NeTiFeSi. The order of those letters determines how they are developed and how frequent they are used. Ne is your most developed and frequently used while Si is the least. These functions manifest in different ways depending on the person (i.e. age, maturity, either healthy or unhealthy). Ti - (Introverted thinking). I like to compare this with rationalism. Answers are found internally based on reason and logic. Mostly Ti argues subjectively. It has an abstract system it follows when coming up with arguments.
Te- (Extroverted thinking). As opposed to Ti, Te makes use of objectivity. Te thinks of how knowledge is applied in the physical world. Te makes used of facts and data.For example. How would Te and Ti answer this question?: Should abortion be legalized?
Te: According to past history, there is an increase of mortality rates for women who get abortion from unreliable practitioners. If it is legalized, we would have safer health care for them and mortality rates will decrease.Ti: Well, the debate usually goes like this: “but it is killing life!” or “it isn’t life yet!”. If that is the moral dilemma, we must first answer the question: “Does life start at conception or does it not? How do we define what is alive or not?”. The pragmatic side of abortion is great but the moral side of this issue can not be answered until we can define if an embryo is “alive”. or if we can even define “life” at all.
See the difference? Fe- (extroverted feeling) is concerned with harmony and how it relates to others. It questions things like: “how would others see this?”, “does this make sense to people?” Keyword: commonality, communityFi- (Introverted Feeling) asks: “Does this make sense to me?”. It relies on its own value system it has made for itself. Keyword: individualityFe will say: “That’s wrong! People will get hurt!”Fi will say: “That’s wrong! That kind of idea is against what is moral!”Ni- (Introverted Intuition) I’ll admit, Ni is the function I understand the least but I’ll try. It observes, processes past and present information and comes up with a conclusion on how things will turn out. I’ve heard from a few xNTJs saying that it’s an “aha” moment for them when a conclusion pops out, they just don’t know how they got it. I theorize that their processing of information is done by the subconscious and Te or Fe delivers it. Ne- (extroverted Intuition) Ne can look at one thing and derive tons of ideas from it. It sees beyond what is there. It gets one idea and can connect it to anything and can come up with to result with more ideas. It thinks about possibilities and associations.
I’ve seen both Ne and Ni show in debates. Ni can take a look at one topic and just make up arguments within that topic but no one has ever heard about them before. It highlights important issues about that topic that no one would think is important. It sort of digs deeper to arrive at its core conclusion. When Ni works like that, sometimes it would make you say: “of course! Why didn’t I think of that?”
Ne will look at a topic and think of how it relates to other topics and issues rather than focusing inwardly on the given topic. So Ni is thinking inside the box while Ne is thinking outside of it.Si- (Introverted Sensing). Si is focused on its experience with the past in a subjective way. It is concerned with tradition (some think that’s a bad thing but I disagree) and with tried and tested methods. Decision making would have to rely on what one has already experienced and learned.Se- (Extraverted Sensing) Se is focused on its experience with the present through the 5 senses. I know an Se dom who can’t stand being idle because he is always wanting to experience something.-Rashil, INTP
Okay, but what about a ENTPx2 + ESTP friendship? And what about a ENTP + ENFP friendship? :D
ENTPx2 + ESTP, I don’t know but ESTP might either get bored or get overwhelmed with all the sorts of shit 2 ENTPs can come up with. However, The ESTP might just be a willing active participant for the ENTP’s science thingies. They’ll all probably enjoy the energy of this group.ENTP + ENFP= they’ll probably bond over hysteric laughter, extreme procrastination, and debates about aliens.
-Rashil, INTP
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Are there other ENTJs that would rather bring people to the top with them than squish them on the way? Why are we always portrayed in that manner??
Of course there are.My crush is one. :DAll 16 types have an ugly stereotype version of them. I dunno but squishing people to get to success seemed to be a romanticized characteristic. Like it makes these people look superior so it’s just embraced. That’s a no no. Nope. Don’t embrace stereotypes (I hate the INTJ stereotype the most)- Rashil, INTP
Honest
Person:I just want you to be honest with me.
INTP:Nah. Trust me, you don't.
Hi! I'm a female INTJ and as such I'm usually cold hearted and calm about everything around me. I rarely experience strong emotions, but the deep truth is that I crave for them. For this reason sometimes I do some irrational and dangerous things looking for adventure (such as cheating on my husband or going alone on a trip and lying about my whereabouts) Is it that I need these extreme things to feel something, that normal people feel with normal things?
A person can feel a lot and look stoic. A person can also feel emotions in a less intense way and look expressive. Feelings are expressed in a lot of ways and in varying degrees.Â
Try to look into the specific things you’re doing in an attempt to “feel”. Why did you cheat on your husband? Why do you want to be isolated from everyone you know? I think it boils down to unmet needs and extreme actions are done as an impulse to satisfy these wants and needs. The decision to act upon these impulses seem dangerous because the actions were not understood and the reasons behind it were not fully internalized. Perhaps you “feeling something” satisfies you because it seems to you that your needs and wants were met. Humans always act to attain satisfaction no matter how unreasonable it is to them. That’s alright but satisfaction can be attained with healthier and safer methods once one’s self is understood.For example, my ENFP friend had the impulse of moving to a different country where no one knows her. This is because she is not satisfied with the life she has and wants to start all over again. I once allowed someone to sign me up for a debate tournament. I’ve decided a year ago that I would never join again (I joined last year) because it has cost me days without sleep and another week with flu before. I was not able to balance social life, my academics, mental health and debate training so I swore I will not go through the same hell again. But I joined anyway because I was hungry for the intelligent discourse that debating provided. It was a resource that was scare in my current life . I just had to grab the opportunity to have it.Maybe cheating on your husband was your means of escaping a problematic marriage. Maybe going alone on a trip was your way getting more alone time because this is one of your needs as an introvert. I don’t know, I’m only making guesses (I’m probably wrong.). It is you who can know that. Develop that inferior Fi. Study yourself more often.Tldr; look into the specific actions. Deduce what needs these actions are trying to fulfill. Create healthier means to satisfy those needs.-Mod Rashil, INTP