Since my brains on Firestar.. I believe he definitely has/ had a thing for Graystripe. And him being the perfect Thunderclan tom, he never acted on it. Instead he gave Graystripe one of his daughters and then claimed both of Graystripe and Millie's daughters as his own.
He also definitely heterosexually wishes Graystripe was a molly, or that his daughters looked more like him.
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The first fic I'm planning for this is a second person request book about the readers life in Thunderclan. So far I have it being the readers being apprenticed and it will be separate chapters for tom v. molly pov
Thunderstars code is an au where Thunderstar became so paranoid about molly's ruining his clan that he decided to subjugate them.
So basically, its a Thunderclan misogyny au.
At first his code started with one simple rule, "1. No molly shall ever hold a position of power in Thunderclan."
Then more came as the clan grew.
2. All mollys over 6 moons must be assigned to a tom.
3. When a tom reaches 6 moons he is eligible to own a molly
4. All molly's must be assigned their warrior names by their owners.
5. Molly's may be medicine cats. Provided there is at least one tom in the role as well.
6. All molly's under 12 moons must take heat suppressant herbs, unless ordered otherwise by their owner. Toms under 12 moons may not take their mollys off of heat suppressants.
7. Molly's must obey every order made by their toms. No matter what she thinks, her place is to obey.
8. A molly's kits are her owners, unless he relinquishes the claim.
9. No molly may attend the gatherings. They cannot be trusted not to gossip.
10. When a mollys owner dies, she must be given until sunhigh to grieve, before she is assigned a new owner.
I thought including heat cycles would help somewhat with overpopulation. Also Thunderclan always has the largest territory because they fight and make deals for it. Molly's are allowed to be warriors, only if their owners are okay with it. Its seen as a status symbol to have a strong molly for some.
Most female leaders/ Deputies are just gender swapped in history. Unless their gender was important, then they are just replaced. Except for Doestar. I came up with some fun lore for her.
So thats Thunderstars code. Feel free to send asks or chat. I plan to make a clngen off this lol. Will probably post to my ao3 so Tumblr doesn't nuke me.
I've been thinking about how a few canon toms would react to their mollies finding love outside of them/ Thunderclan.
Thrushpelt/ Thrushstar- he accepts it. He loves Bluefur and knows that he owns her, but he can't control her heart. He accepts Mistyfoot and Stonefur as his first litter and his oldest kits. Even if he can't tell them.
Dustpelt- unaware. So in this AU initially he is Squirrelflights owner until she and Brambleclaw go on the journey. But after she vanishes and then Graystripe vanished too, Leafpool is given to him. Dustpelt cares more for Ferncloud, so he's unaware of her meetings with Crowfeather. Their relationship and the three are something that I toss in my head constantly.
Bumblestripe- He hates that she can't love him. He doesn't hate Dovewing, but he hates that she doesn't want him back. He is her owner, her doting mate. So why does she keep thirsting after Tigerheart? When she leaves he curses her name. He refuses to care for any other mollies until he was given Leafshade.
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"So basically, its a Thunderclan misogyny au." so... normal warrior cats? (joking)
new anon here! hi, hello. here are some random questions because every tumblr blog loves questions, yeah? lol
how are queens treated? are they just seen as kit-makers?
in the future of thunderclan, would there ever be organised protests from mollies? if so, what would happen?
how would thunderclan react if there were way more she-cats than toms?
^ if the population of mollies was "dying out" and there were WAY more toms than she-cats, would thunderclan have to have help with the other clans? specifically skyclan
is there still incest in the clan(s) like in the original version?
ooo! intresting one, what would happen if a tom was transgender? or a molly?
Haha.
Hello Anon, I'm always up for questions. Though I sometimes forget to check this account blegh.
Anyway, hopping into it.
1- Queens are a whisker above other mollies on the hierarchy. They are seen as kit-makers but also as mothers. They care for their owners and their legacy.
2- This one is a bit difficult. Mostly because this AU is made with bursts of actual creativity and horny thoughts lol. I think protests would be squashed. Any break from the status quo would be seen as a fulfillment of Thunderstar's fears. Which would lead to harsher crack downs.
I doubt that this would work forever. The mollies still have claws and they could get the other clans support. When the tides turn and they win, they'll ironically have proven Thunderstar right. Mollies did destory his clan and now they'll put it back together.
3- It'd be disgraceful and play on their fears of mollies taking power. They, as in the toms in power, would probably try to lure in more toms or weed out problematic mollies.
4- They would celebrate, then probably panic. As shitty as they treat mollies, they do need them and these are horny toms without relief. They would definitely go to others for help. Even approach the twoleg place and lure in kittypets. Anything to return to the status quo.
5- Yeah, it's very normalized in thunderclan. Though, mollies having their fathers/brothers/ sons litters is less accepted. It happens, but the kits coming out deformed is not appreciated.
6- Warning here for Transphobia and corrective noncon
Now this one I have played tug-o-war with. Because on one paw, I am transgender, on the other, I have a lot of kinks. What I've settled on is basically a half-realism, half-fetish idea. So, Trans mollies and trans toms exist but are treated with skepticism. Trans toms are treated like lesser toms, they constantly have to prove themselves and have no real power. and I will not beat around the bush, other toms may try to "fix" them by reminding them they are mollies.
Trans mollies don't fair much better. They're treated as mousebrained toms or toms with a fetish. They are not allowed to keep their mollies. They cannot lead or hold positions of power. They like their trans brothers are in a weird middle ground.
More "progressive" leaders will give trans mollies owners and maybe allow trans toms mollies or to lead a patrol once in a while.
I know in a lot of real societies that treat women as property, the most respected members of the community (usually the oldest) get more women than the less respected members (the youngest), who have to wait their turn. Does ThunderClan work like that in your AU, or is attaining a she-cat at 6 moons considered as a coming-of-age thing?
It varies by leader, since they assign owners. But most favor themselves and their friends, since mollys are a status symbol. Then the senior warriors/ elders and other high ranks. Its rare for a 6 moon old Tom to actually get a molly when they are apprenticed.
When it does happen, the toms are seen as blessed and mature. Surely the leader saw potential to give them a molly so young.