#mainecoon76

You cannot separate the transphobia that bred this discourse from the conversation taking place. It is impossible. Trans people’s fear of tangible and real-world violence and discrimination is what has led us to have this conversation.

There is no witch hunt, there is no petty personal grievance. Trans people, including myself, are taking the time to explain paragraph by paragraph for you why these defenses of a transphobe do not hold water.

That is the conversation. We are talking about transphobia. We are talking about the transphobia of tolkien bloggers. We are talking about it publicly.

Where should we have resolved this? Privately? I imagine everyone would have preferred to sort this in a manner that drew less attention. I fully believe that private disputes should be resolved privately.

Transphobia is not a private crime. Trans people are not private victims. We are discussing it in public because it is already happening in public.

How do you prefer we discuss it publicly?

Without names? (Names of transphobes)

Without screenshots? (Screenshots of transphobic words)

We are replying directly and with evidence so that no argument can be made over what is true or false. We are replying directly so we might point out the specific instance of transphobia and define it.

Exactly! Apparently the actress is a teenager (not 13, as I read on tumblr, but just turned 15 - still far too young. Not her fault, obviously, but…). Why?! Holly is a young officer, but still a grown-ass elf. Which is sort of important to the plot. Hmpf.

Stupid question, probably: "Tolkien" is such a broad topic. What happens if art and author prompts don't match?

The way it works is the artists create a piece of art (we don’t give them prompts, so there is basically free reign)

The artist then emails this art(probably a sketch, it will not be the finished work)/a picture of the art to us, and we stick it in our Preview document.

During Preview Weekend (starts May 25th) we email a link to the Previews to the authors who are signed up and allow them to peruse the arts available.

After Preview Weekend, that is Monday the 28th at 8 pm CET we enable the Claims form - a link will be mailed to the participating authors ahead of time, though it won’t accept replies until 8 - and the authors then send us their chosen prompts in order of preference.

At this point, Narya and I are going to be scrambling to keep up, most likely (hopefully! and on my birthday of all days, too!) greying out claimed art in the preview document as claims are made.

Once we have matched author with art, we email the author and artist each other’s contact details - what happens after this point is to a degree up to the pairs in question. Some artists may prefer a lot of back and forth, maybe headcanons they’d like/not like to see (I know, for example, that Crispy Ambarussa even in passing is a major no-no for one of our artists), while others prefer to let their writer have absolute control. (See the FAQ)

At this point, your only obligations as a writer is that you must write at minimum 5000 words, you MUST include elements from the piece of artwork you have claimed, and the two of you MUST agree on a way to post the final collaboration (See Masterpost Info)

As you can see, there is very little chance of “not matching” as you are not assigned a prompt, you choose it (bear in mind that you will be writing for the artist’s vision, so descriptions of people etc should match your art ;) )

Hope this cleared up your question!

cycas said: @silverphantomcat where does that COME from? I thought I was pretty good on HoME but I can’t remember ever reading that…

On page 771 of my copy of HOME:

But the 'Nauglafring' remains hoarded secretly in Beren's keeping. When Mandos let Beren return with Luthien, it was only at the price that Luthien should be- come as shortlived as Beren the mortal. Luthien now fades, even as the Elves in later days faded as Men grew strong and took the goodness of earth (for the Elves needed the light of the Trees). At last she vanished, and Beren was lost, looking in vain for her, and his son Dior ruled after him. Dior re-established Doriath and grew proud, and wore the 'Nauglafring', and the fame of the Silmaril went abroad. After vain bargaining the sons of Feanor made war on him (the second slaying of Elf by Elf) and destroyed him, and took the 'Nauglafring'. They quarrelled over it, owing to the curse of the gold, until only Maglor was left. But Elwing daughter of Dior was saved and carried away to the mouth of the river Sirion 

And Christopher Tolkien’s commentary on page 794:

Lastly, in the story of Dior and the ruin of Doriath as told in S, there are various developments. The son of Dior, Auredhir (II. 240) has disappeared. The 'vain bargaining' be- tween Dior and the Sons of Feanor perhaps refers to the passage in the Tale (II. 241) where Dior asserts that to return the Silmaril the Nauglafring must be broken, and Curufin (the messenger of the Feanorians) retorts that in that case the Nauglafring must be given to them unbroken. In the Tale Maglor, Diriel, Celegorm, and Cranthir (or the earlier equiva- lents of their names) were killed in the battle (which there took place in Hithlum, where Dior ruled after his father); but in S, as first written, the story takes a very strange turn, in that the Feanorians did get their hands on the Nauglafring, but then so quarrelled over it that in the end 'only Maglor was left'. How the story would have gone in this case is impossible to discern.

I think there are other passages but HOME is really long even with ctrl+f!

Let's hate each other's ships in peace :) . But seriously: the problem of Celebrimbor/Narvi is that the ship is so small and the potential largely unexplored. But potential there is. Imo neither pairing is inherently better or more interesting, it all comes down to a matter of preference, which brings me back to the starting point. Cheers. *offers tankard of dwarven ale*

corinthian-13 replied to your post “��narvi / celebrimbor”

Omg i got to disagree there. There is so much possibility of depth and angst in this ship �� like interracial complication very opposite nature one is immortal the other not and yet they both bond for life ���� and if you throw annatar in the mix... the angst might explode and kill everyone? (Or just me? ����) gosh i am inspired now!

mainecoon76 replied to your post:                   reply post number something                

   *knocks politely* Not that I’m involved, but seeing that this post is public and turns up in the search for ‘feanorians’, I find the personal insults it includes pretty harsh. We all have strong opinions and get angry sometimes, but “feanorian-obsessed mass-headcanon-generators” - wow. We’re all fans, aren’t we?    

hey, apologies, i didn’t realize this turned up in general searches! i tried putting everything under a readmore and labeling it as being a reply post as obviously as possible, but i guess that didn’t work? i know readmores sometimes don’t work on mobile? anyway i’m sorry you encountered it! i’ll make it a point not to put keywords in the text of my comments if this type of thing ever comes up again, though i hope it won’t - both i and (if i’m presenting things correctly) two of the people in this post are pretty big fans of the feanorian characters and were only discussing a type of fandom discourse that bashes other characters, not discussing the feanorians themselves. i’m sure you know how irritating it is to have one character you like used to bash another character you like? in fact. uh, now that i think of it, the impetus for this whole deluge was that post i made like a week ago complaining about why fandom thinks i can’t like both the arafinweans and the feanorians at the same time!

Right now, he “likes” nothing in terms of gifts. But many kids choose a favorite stuffed animal later and carry it everywhere. Doesn’t have to be a bear - how about a fox or a bird? :)