#liberman

Battling Mental illness :

• "Perspective is good. But the answers have to be your own" by Curtis to Lewis, saying that therapy and books and others can help you and guide you better to listen to your own voice, thoughts and emotions but ultimately you have to listen and face your inner-self.

•"You've been in a hole so long that its became home"

"Maybe that's where I am supposed to be"

Again by Curtis. And it is such a beautiful and deep quote about struggles with mental illness - not just PTSD but any mental illness. When you are battling illness you realise that your mental illness is a huge part of your identity and you begin to wonder if that's all you are. Finding out what other things you are besides your mental illness is where the second battle/journey of recovery begins.

•On Survivor's guilt

"And now you are wondering what right you have to be alive. You can't answer that question. but it's normal to ask it" by Madani's mom to Madani after Sam's death.

Frank Castle and David Liberman:

•They are two sides of the same coin. Both of their families were harmed because of their jobs. Only difference Liberman knew it, Frank didn't. Not until it was too late. And while Liberman can do something about it, Frank can't and Curtis called out Liberman for dragging Frank back into this again, in spite of knowing there is nothing good Frank can gain down the road.

•Frank saying THIS to Liberman to ask him who he is and why he is seeking Frank

"Mind needs routine, craves it. Pain isn't torture, you can develop tolerance for it. Time is. Knowing your life is near its end. You and I got time, Liberman" because they are essentially two dead men chasing the ghost of their past, one hoping it would make a difference to their future (Liberman) and other who doesn't know how to live in present or move on to future without banishing the ghosts of his past (Castle)

•Frank saying if Liberman wants to go to his family he has to get his hands dirty and he isn't "some guy" he can call to repair his life like he used to repair his sink in the past.

•Frank saying Liberman left his family, played possum, went under and giving Liberman shit for it but later telling Karen that he kept his family safe shows how Frank blames himself and says they would still be alive if it weren't for him.

Frank Castle and Karen Page:

•How Karen hopes Frank will stop chasing his Past

"When I see you, all i see is endless echoing loneliness"and when he denies she responds with," That is goddamn bullhshit. Everyone in this world is Fighting not to be alone. I want there to be an after for you"

•And if he is chasing his past, she wants it to be in a way the people accountable are punished by the truth and not painted as martrys because that is what they would become if Frank killed them.

Frank and Billy Russo (before the truth was out)

• Frank about Russo to Liberman

"I was a father, husband and a marine. I loved it. Billy russo is my family"

"I had two families, Maria and kids and my unit. I got his back. He got mine"

•Billy Russo defending Frank Castle to Dinah Madani.

"Stay long enough in war and you will get dirty unless you have a good thing to hold on to Frank's got taken away. The system failed Frank in a big way"

•Billy saying - "your family is gone but you are still my brother" and offering him the chance to run away.

Billy Russo and Frank Castle (after the truth was out)

•"I think that maybe the only reason you want Frank dead was so that you could pretend he could never make you feel like a man about to die" Billy Russo to Rawlins.

•"I made a promise" when Rawlins continues to torture Castle when he stops him from shooting him and doesn't let him have an easy death.

•"Did you pull a bullet in wife? On my son? My baby girl?"

"If i was there, I wouldn't have missed. But i said I'd not be a part of it"

"But you knew about it, Bill? You knew about it?"

"Yeah, I knew"

The conversation crushed me because you could hear the hope in Frank's voice that maybe he didn't know and didn't ignore it.

Billy Russo and his beliefs

•"Its was always about , clothes and cars and women with you"

"Its what those things represent. What I see when i look in the mirror" paired with this shot cannot be a coincidence

•And when Billy says this as to what he sees when he looks at Frank, "Lost his family. Lost his faith. About to loose his life" and Frank replies "You are wrong bill.You already lost. You lost your honor" but Billy doesn't think that.

To him, what Frank and we see are excuses are legit reasons of his survival and living and his conviction was showed in instances like what he said to Madani when he shot Frank in front of her, "It was war, Dinah. The only crime in war is to loose", when he said this to Curtis, "Drugs? Someone else would bring them. Killed Afghans? They kill each other." and telling Curtis "Call yourself an ambulance and go to the hospital. My word means something too" paralleling to what Frank said at the beginning of the call.

Dinah Madani and David Liberman:

•"And then you want justice coz you haven't figured out there is no such thing yet" and then "This is your justice?" with him pointing to beaten up and tortured Frank.

Dinah Madani, Billy Russo and Frank Castle:

•The first confrontation scene that Billy and Madani have in Homeland office

"I know you must be haunted by the death of your partner/s but it doesn't make me the guy you are looking for"

"I am looking for frank castle and maybe I'll take my time to do so. Remember how he looked at you in the stair well. You know he js gonna kill you and enjoy doing it. Who knows maybe he received at tipoff and is waiting outside this building. Nice suit, hope its bullet proof"

•To her later in hospital after being shot in the head

"I hope he remembers. So that when he sees me standing he knows the role I played in all of this"

echoing what Frank said as he dragged and crushed Billy's face on the glass, "Now you will live and remember"

On the flawed military system and Lewis being the face of it in the show- in the most obvious manner:

I say obvious because Frank, Liberman, Russo and Rawlins cannot be isolated from the military but their conflict focuses more on the moral choices these characters made in the military context, as being part of the system. Whereas with Lewis, he had no agency to make choice, the system made the choice for him.

"He is loyal to this country, flag, unit and corrupt officers like him take advantage of that."

Frank said this about a soldier in Benett's place when they gone there to hack his cellphone but this show's Lewis's anger, betrayal and hurt completely.

How he had to lie and hide truth about enemy soldiers killing when it was friendly fire, how he feels he is still in war but has no physical proof of it and hence the entire service feels like like a huge lie (when he said to Curt - "you got this in war" and Curtis calls him out and says"I didn't get anything. I lost my leg"), how he sees the country he thought he was defending wasn't even sure if it is worth defending.

On Gun Control

•Gun control is not about certain guns away from all people. But all guns away from certain people - Senator Ori.

•Lets not blame the tool. Lets manage the owners- Senator Ori.

Who is he - Frank Castle or The Punisher

•"Where is home frank?"

"Is it here or there (the battlefield)?"

"Its here. With you. You know that."

"No. I don't know that." before he says he won't go on another tour

• cut to the present with Frank with his bloodied hands leaving the vision Maria saying "This is my home" to say this is who he is now. His present.

The Mirror:

•From Curtis in Episode 1 saying this "Everybody wants to be somebody else. No one is happy to look in the mirror at themselves and see themselves and that means they don't have to be responsible either"

to

•Frank in Episode 13 saying this "If you are gonna look at yourself, really look at yourself in the mirror, you gotta admit who you are but not just to yourself. You gotta admit to everybody else"

Frank Castle, the fighter with Kids:

•Frankie - "marine scares the bad guys, daddy. When you are not here, its my job to protect the girls"

•"Frank is a lot scarier than Pete" "Yeah, he is"

Because Frank is still a fighter, be it as Frank Castle the fighter as a soldier or as The Punisher, a vigilante.

But mans always fights for what he believes to be right with complete honesty and withiut hiding.