I'm curious now, if you feel like answering (no worries if you don't): What exactly IS the state of the discourse regarding the Lammily doll? Aside from the posts you just made I've never actually seen anything even remotely negative about them. (I'm not part of the doll fandom though.)
Gonna preface this by saying I donât own a Lammily and Iâve only heard most of this stuff secondhand, but I know enough to talk about whatâs wrong. There are a number of problems with Lammily, really, but letâs start with the biggest one.Â
Fashion dolls - like Barbie- are designed to be easy to dress. Thereâs a reason why Barbie has a wasp waist, and it isnât just unrealistic standards of female beauty. Since dolls canât really bend at the waist (...without some serious engineering and effort) and donât often bend at the knees, you have to make it so that they can step into their clothes or pull them down over their torso without bending over. This is why Barbie has tiny feet (and why Bratz dolls had removeable feet)- itâs so she can wear trousers. Itâs why Barbies have such long necks- so itâs easy to get clothes over their heads. Itâs at least as much the structural side of dressing a mannequin as it is a representation of a human body.
If you look at Lammilly next to Barbie...
... Youâll start to see the problem. Because Lammily has a ârealisticallyâ proportioned torso, sheâs harder to dress.Â
Itâs harder to get pants to sit properly on her butt, because her butt is one big piece of rigid plastic. (A lot of boy dolls have this problem too- my poor Jasper Cullen has a permanent plumberâs crack.)
(pictures from Toyboxphilosopher.com)Â
 Itâs harder to get clothes over her head and shoulders, because her neck is so short and her torso is so thick. I doooooonât think itâs a coincidence that Lammilyâs shipped wearing a button-down.Â
Thereâs also... something messed up with Lammilyâs hips and upper legs. Maybe itâs just that Iâm used to Barbieâs body shape, but it looks like her center of gravity is too low. So her torso looks weirdly elongated and her legs look weirdly stumpy. Not sure how easy itâd be to fix that issue, but itâs certainly a thing.Â
Whatever it is, it means that Lammily canât sit down properly. Her legs splay out wide, and without some serious nudging, you canât get her to close them. Her knees are articulated, but before looking into her, I genuinely thought they werenât- itâs very difficult to get her to sit with her legs crossed. She also canât stand up on her own, but thatâs a problem most fashion dolls have.
Personal opinions: I really donât like Lammilyâs face sculpt. I get that sheâs supposed to resemble a ânormalâ teenager, but something about it just looks... gormlessly smug. I also really donât like that Lammily ships with molded on underwear.Â
Second big problem with Lammily- she is not a doll for children. She is a doll for their parents. And because of that, sheâs dead boring. Yes, Lammily is designed as, and to an extent marketed as, a playline doll- a childrenâs toy, not a toy for collectors. Buuuuuuut... letâs look at the selling points for a second.
The big selling point of Lammily- as opposed to Barbie, Monster High, Ever After High/Disney Descendents, DC Superhero Girls, Bratz, etc.- is that sheâs a realistic alternative to Barbie. Her tagline is ânormal is beautifulâ. She doesnât really come with any special accessories (you can buy fashion packs, stretch marks, acne, period pads, and so on for her, but as far as I know, she doesnât come with things like purses or hats). She is a (comparatively) short, stout, average-looking girl with a double-denim outfit, and her packaging contains a little story about how she travels the world and likes to meet people. It is all very harmless and nice and safe.Â
Kids... do not care what brand their toys are unless their peers care. A kid doesnât care whether their blonde fashion doll is a Barbie or an Ever After High or a Moxie Teenz or a dollar store knockoff - itâs a doll and they can dress her and have her murder Ken and resurrect him into a zombie army to their heartâs content. ...Unless all their friends have Bratz dolls, and theyâre the only one stuck with a Barbie. Or all their friends have Monster Highs, and theyâre the one stuck with the dollar store knockoff. ...Or all their friends have Barbies, and theyâre stuck with a fucking Lammily.Â
Lammily really has nothing to make her more desirable to a kid than the other dolls they could be playing with. Iâll admit that Lammily is not just double denim for days; you can get a mermaid tail, a veterinarian outfit, or a ballerina dress for her- and then unpleasantly surprised to see that the individual outfits are priced comparably to an entire Barbie set. As an example: the Lammily veterinarian outfit is $24.00 and comes with a set of scrubs, a surgical mask, a âvitals monitorâ, and some cat treats; the Barbie Farm Vet playset is $25 and includes a doll, an outfit for her, and multiple animal friends. And...  I understand that thereâs moral stuff at play here; I respect Lamm for deciding to pay his workers what theyâre worth and not rely on Chinese slave labour. But in practice, it means that most kids who have a Lammily are not going to have any of her custom outfits.Â
So. To make this fair to Lammily, Iâm only going to compare her to the more ârealisticâ 18-inch dolls I had growing up. American Girl dolls actually have a similar body type to Lammily (but- when I was a kid- they got around that by having cloth bodies, so when you dress them they had a bit more give).Â
If you were a kid, and you had the choice, would you pick Kat the Time Explorer (who comes with a big poofy pink silk dress, a parasol, and a book about her auntâs mysterious time machine)... or Lammily? Would you pick Laurel the Wood Fairy (who comes with a flower crown, a long flowing purple cape, and a book about her adventures tricking evil goblins to save her gentle fairy kingdom)... or Lammily? Hell, would you pick Molly (who looks more like you, AND has a book about how she grew up during World War 2 and had adventures on the Home Front)... or Lammily?Â
Let me remind you, this is not even getting into Lammilyâs actual competitors: you know, fashion dolls you can dress, Disney princesses, superheroes, WWE wrestlers, Harry Potter witches, Star Wars heroes, and Draculaâs daughter. There is literally no contest there. If eight-year-old me had to choose between Hermione and Lammily? I know which one I would pick in a heartbeat, and it sure ainât the blandly nice world traveler. Â
So... Lammily is not a toy that will interest kids at all. But it will interest parents- specifically feminist parents- who are anxious that their kids will play with toys that will hurt their self-esteem. So they will buy this toy for their kids, who are then just disappointed that they didnât get the Elsa Barbie or the Optimus Prime that they asked for and who will probably never play with Lammily unless theyâve got nothing better to do.Â
 Dolls are about stories. The toys you give your kids show them the kind of stories you want them to tell about the world and ultimately about themselves. If you give your son toy guns and GI Joes, heâs less likely to tell stories about things that arenât shooting. If you only give your daughter plastic dishes and baby dolls, sheâs less likely to tell stories about things that arenât housewifery. A sufficiently determined kid can tell the stories they want to tell with whatever they have available, donât get me wrong- Lauren Faust and MLP:FIM prove that.
This comes to the crux of why I really, really hate Lammily...and agh, ADHD brain is trying to go in two directions at the same time with this, and itâs making them the Same Thing when theyâre two different things; Iâll try to tease them out separate.Â
Thing One about why I really hate Lammily: well, thereâs this quote I post a lot on here by Ada Palmer:Â
Our world is saturated with messages telling people to give up, to settle, to take whatever path will make ends meet, to expect to face a grim job market when we reach adulthood, to expect the hours from 9 to 5 to be sacrificed to drudgery, to expect closed doors. When kids are in kindergarten they're encouraged to say they want to be an astronaut, or a race car driver, or a president when they grow up, but by the time young people reach High School the negative messages have usually won out, that the world is unfair and against them, that dreams are unrealistic, that aspiration is naive, that optimism should be mocked, that cynicism, criticism, and the realism of a pessimistic norm are the smart path.Â
I think the best thing we can do to brighten the future is to stop telling people that it can't be brightened, that they can't brighten it. We can all lay down stepping stones in the long road to the stars, but we can lay down exponentially more by telling other people that they can do it too, that they don't have to waste themselves for the present, that there are a hundred thousand paths open to all of us that let us lay the vital stepping stones.
...Lammily is all about the ârealism of a pessimistic normâ. She comes with stretch marks and acne and period pads. Most of her clothes are sturdy and practical, and the ones that arenât are ludicrously expensive. Lammily doesnât have magic hair that glows when she sings, or butterfly wings, or snake hair. She isnât the daughter of Sleeping Beauty or the Wolf Man or an ancient mummy. She isnât going to space or fighting evil empires or saving the world. Sheâs just... an ordinary girl. Who travels, and maybe takes pictures.Â
And like... I get that kids need ordinary role models to relate to. I get that you canât just give your kids a diet of fantasy. But ... if I was gonna try to give my hypothetical daughter a Normal Person Role Model to relate to... itâd be Grace Murray Hopper or Mary Shelley or Annie Oakley. If it was one that came in doll form, itâd be, like... Coraline Jones. Not Lammily.
The other thing. The other thing. and this is the one that makes me angriest. is just how much Lammilyâs marketing and messaging and general theme fetishize being normal. Thereâs this whole line of subtext in the marketing about how Lammily is an average normal girl and those skanky Barbies over there who have unrealistic body proportions arenât normal like Lammily so theyâre bad.Â
...And, like... okay. I get that this is most likely unintentional. I get that there absolutely should be more dolls with realistic body proportions, and that having wasp-thin waifish dolls everywhere the eye can see really can make little girls feel bad about their bodies. But at the same time....Â
Okay, letâs talk about Monster High for a second.Â
Monster High dolls have some of the most stylised bodies in the doll world right now. (In this lineup, youâve got a Barbie, a Monster High, a DC Superhero Girl, and a Moxie Teen.)Â
...At the same time, though... Iâd argue the messaging in Monster Highâs doll line is a lot better for kids than the messaging in Lammily. Because the message Monster High sends, with all its packaging and tie-in fiction and design, is âthere are lots of different kinds of ways to be a person, and itâs okay and fun and cool to be different. be a freak, be a weirdo, be a monster- no matter what kind of ghoul/girl you are, youâre welcome here.âÂ
Sure. Monster High doesnât have much body diversity. They could definitely use to have more. But I think âItâs okay to be different, and the things that make you freaky make you fabulousâ is a ... better message overall than âitâs okay to be normalâ. It can be a competing access needs thing, donât get me wrong... but in my experience, most of the time, ânormalâ is much more restrictive than âweirdâ, and itâs a standard that keeps changing. Itâs better to be able to say âyeah, so what if Iâm fat, I donât care if itâs a flaw, itâs part of who I am and thatâs okayâ than âMY WEIGHT IS OFFICIALLY âNORMALââ. Because whatâs ânormalâ could change at any time, and you might not.Â
... I dunno, maybe thatâs just my triggers talking. And Iâd love to see a decently engineered doll with a more âaverageâ figure.Â
But I donât think that dollâs Lammily. I donât like the marketing, I donât like the blandness, and I donât like the doll itself. And I know thereâs plenty of other people who share my opinion, lol.