Wait when the post is ready I'm gonna post snippets of a KuroEne NSFW fic I'm working on.
Hopefully today or tomorrow???
Cheers!!
Art is my main craft and art form, but yes I started learning how to write for them.
Like, doing dialogue scripts is also a form of fanfic writing (since play script formats are often done with film/TV scripts), but as a creative writing form, it's still so different from novel/book fic writing, y'know
I'm also planning ones for KuroEne, JuAli, and IdaTatsu but IDK when they'll see the light of day as published fics.
Just know I've been learning to write fic for my faves 🥺🙏
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Discussion rambles with Feila on comm ideas for KuroEne, XanLena, and JuAli, under the cut.
Disabling reblogs for obvious reasons
My KuroEne Twt mutual recently got a YCH/Skeb/Omakase style type comm from a KR artist (top one) ❤️
OMG this comm is beautiful???
The comm type is "You and Me" Heart (Music Playlist) comm
The poses are the same but you can customize the eye position, colours, and text (title, album, and ship pair at the bottom)
I would IGNITE if I had any of my main OTPs (KuroEne, JuAli, XanLena, LimGuda, IdaTatsu) as this.
Oomf's comm came out SO good OMFG
The artist lists all the comms they did in the thread!
They only speak Korean, so Idk if they'd be ok with overseas clients communicating with them through the use of a translator
(And I don't want to make mistakes either. Because unlike JP, I can't read KR.)
My oomf knows KR so I feel like it'd be ok to tell her that I wanted to comm this artist with KuroEne in this style and ask her to check over my comm form, but admittedly I feel shy 😭
Info Page: (X)
Me: Ok... So it's a Skeb/Omakase/YCH style comm so there are no revisions/changes, but if you absolutely want them, then you can pay a fee. That's fair.
Ok the auto translator seems to be working decently (enough for me to view over the TOS)
They seem to accept most yume ships, but will reject series or ships they don't like, which is fair.
This artist blacklisted requesting certain series from their list.
They reject CC and yume ship comms with a couple of their faves, which is understandable.
They say that they don't use mid-tones for dark skin for this comm due to the limited colours.
The TOS lists that no midtones/screentones will be used, even for darker skin and scars.
Not the worst thing in the world considering the limited colour palette, but I'm still kinda ??? about that... 😭
Hmmm. Let me think about what colours I want for JuAli and XanLena (in the future)
F: I just looked over the TOS
I've never seen a comm this strict ngl
Lowkey wanna question why they don't use screentones for a darker skin tone.
Me: Right??? I'm so confused about that too. Like it's such a minor change
My precious XanLena and JuAli are gonna be inked fully in BW then in this style 😭
Selena, Xanxus, and Alibaba all have tanner/darker skin in my HCs.
For Selena, it's not even an HC. She's my own OC.
Ig I could live with that due to the limited colour palette...
Me: There are a lot of Crepe and Skeb comms like this (ex. refusing to draw certain series/ships), or ones that are stricter, like some Crepe/Skeb comms only accept OCs and don't do fanart.
I could communicate with Skeb artists in JP.
But like, some Skeb artists refuse to do any minor edits after the comm is done.
Like, at all.
Even if the artist gets your characters' skin tones wrong. Mf... What in the colourism 💀
Hate that it's a gamble that your sona or OC can be whitewashed after a comm.
I always look over an artist's TOS and portfolio on VGen to see whether they can draw LGBT+ ships and darker skinned charas. Otherwise I don't comm them.
I usually comm on VGen and other socials (Insta, Twt), cuz I prefer working with artists who are OK with doing minor revisions.
I've ordered a bunch of Skeb style comms from VGen. These artists still allow minor detail fixes (ex. colour and detail fixes, skintone changes, etc.)
That's why I much prefer being able to put more inputs in as the client, if any colour/detail fixes are needed.
F: LIKE??? I use screentones like any other person tbh.
Me: "We don't use screentones/mid-tones for darker skin or scars" is so weird to me.
Even if I try giving the benefit of the doubt that maybe it's cuz of the limited colour scheme...
But??? Also, a darker tone is used for the scars here???
(Tweet above, bottom one)
At least OP seems to allow edits of their work (?)
They seem to allow commissioners to print out their Music Playlist comms as charms.
So Ig I could always edit the skin tones if needed. But I shouldn't have to do that (be the one to edit it) in the first place.
F: Terrible day to have a slightly tanned sona/self-insert or OC 😭
Me: I wonder if it's due to the limited colour palette? It's still really off putting to me though, don't get me wrong.
Colourism is a HUGE issue, including in EA/SEA spaces.
All the times I've seen a darker skinned chara get drawn whitewashed or with an "ashy" looking skin tone is way too many to count 💀
Changing the skintone and adjusting it to be slightly darker is such a minor fix.
Maybe I should start with KuroEne first to "test the waters" for how the comm will turn out cuz both of them are pasty/have light skin
F: So they CAN use mid-tones for scars, but like… why not for skin?
Me: HHH YEAH…
F: My Sona's skintone is literally my IRL skintone
Me: Yeah even as a light skinned SEAsian/Viet person, I'm not pasty WHITE 😭
F: Terrible day to have a slightly tanned sona
Me: Yeah it's why I personally haven't commissioned artists on Skeb yet.
I need to find more artists on Skeb who are cool with doing minor revisions if needed.
I'm so scared of the potential chance of ordering a Skeb comm and getting Selena back whitewashed and the artist either not replying or being like "Deal with it" (but in a "politer" way)
"Sorry, but we do not accept revision changes/requests" (formal response)
Like... 💀
I've seen numerous tweets from people talking about how they've received Skeb comms they were unhappy with cuz they didn't allow any changes AND whitewashed their sonas or OCs.
Honest to god, I'd permanently blacklist an artist if they ever refuse to do skin tone changes, etc., especially since all my refs clearly have my characters and faves with tanner/darker skin. I'd be so upset and annoyed.
With cell shading styles, these minor edits are quick to do, too.
With some rendered styles, some colours would need to be redone, but the artist should've followed the client's refs from the beginning.
Thankfully I've personally never run into this problem with Selena being whitewashed in a comm, and let's hope it stays that way.
All the artists on I've commed (including on VGen and other socials like Twitter and Insta) have been super kind about minor edits and revisions, including skin tone changes and detail fixes 🙏
Me: I think I have an idea of what colours I want to be used with XanLena and JuAli but I think I'll probably go for KuroEne first to test the waters (so to speak)
Cuz the last two are good refs for "Charas with gold and red eyes" (XanLena and JuAli) and charas with spirals in eyes" (Judar)
I think I'd use bright saturated blood wine red for Xanxus and Judar's eyes. We'll see when we get there (hopefully!)
I feel like XanLena and JuAli would have these kinds of colour schemes. Both my OTPs have red and gold eyes. What a coincidence.
Me: I think I have an idea of what colours I want to be used with XanLena and JuAli but I think I'll probably go for KuroEne first to test the waters (so to speak)
F: Hopefully KuroEne is accepted... I'm kinda worried they won't accept due to the stricter comm form.
Me: Now… I wonder what colours KuroEne should have
Should they be Black/Gold/Blue or Black/Red/Blue for contrast reasons?
If they're Black/Red/Blue, I was thinking it would match the colours and aesthetics of Outer Science
(Assuming the comm is accepted ofc)
F: But if it's black/red/blue, that would hint that Awakening Eyes is in use (though that'd be a great detail)
Me: Outer Science MV
Me: I was thinking of the general colour palette being like the 2nd image
Me: Yeah it'd be like this. Ig the question is what colours we want
I was thinking of Saeru having red eyes and white skin here in this comm
Cuz I want Ene's blue eyes to match with a good colour
And then their hands can be bright red
F: FISHEYE KUROHA STILL MAKES ME LAUGH AJHDKSHSBS
Me: WHDHSHDSH
F: But eitherway, yes, red hands + outer areas are red, red eyes for the bastard snake and blue eyes for Ene :D
Me: YEEE
I should probably draft colours first
Should we use an auto translator with DeepL or should I ask Oomf…
Ig we could do both. Like, use an auto translator first, then ask Oomf to check it over
F: Idk I'm worried.
I don't trust translators and I don't wanna bother her 😭
Me: Same. I need to figure out how Kuroha and Ene's names are spelled in KR.
(EDIT: Wait, I got it 👍)
F: FUCK I LEARNED HANGEUL ONCE BUT NOW I FORGOT
Me: Oh one thing
We need to decide on the text (album text)
Me: I was thinking of something like this?
KuroEne Comm Ideas 🖤💙🐍🐇
Note: Colours similar to the top most one.
KuroEne Colours
Black, Red, White, Blue 🖤❤️🤍💙
Black used for the outer parts.
Blood Red used for the hands and Saeru's eyes and facial patterns.
Ice Blue used for Ene's eyes and facial structures.
White used for the colour of their skin.
Album Text Colours
White + Black + Red
Album Title
Last Dance At World's End
Note: Name of my KuroEne AU.
Album (Side Text)
KuroEne
Note: Text is White + Red, unless we want Blue + Red to be used. Imo White + Red has better contrast.
Playback Numbers
XX:XX
Note: XX:XX represents the inevitable repeat of their "Dance." An infinite, never-ending loop.
Note: Only if the artist allows changes. Otherwise, we can leave it as is.
Pairing Name (Bottom Text)
Kuroha x Ene
Snake of Clearing Eyes x Enomoto Takane
Note: I think the first one looks the best. The 2nd just has the "true name."
Rambles
Me: Ok what do we think???
F: So it's 쿠로하 (Kuroha) and 에네 (Ene)
F: Ooh the playback numbers is a nice ref of it being never ending :D
Me: I made a compiled list
KuroEne's Names
Ene = 에네 (エネ)
Kuroha = 쿠로하 (クロハ)
Note: Shortened fanon nickname that combines コノハ (Konoha) with 黒/クロ (Kuro, "Black") to make クロハ (Kuroha)
Note: Based on the official profile name for the form that the Snake of Clearing Eyes takes when possessing Konoha: 黒コノハ (Kuro Konoha, "Black Konoha")
Saeru = 사에루 (冴える)
Snake of Clearing Eyes = 눈이 맑아지는 뱀 (目が冴える蛇)
Nuneulmyeon = 눈맑뱀 (目が冴える蛇)
Note: Sometimes referred to as Nuneulmyeon (눈맑뱀, "Clear Eyed Snake") as a nickname/shortened version.
F: Believe it or not, I was so desperate for KuroEne content that I use the KR version of the ship name hoping that something would appear
And Ene's is easier to remember :P
F: Well that's a fun fact :v
Me: HHADHSHSDH valid
I think most KuroEne content comes from EA/JP fans, some from EN-speaking fans, and a bit from CN fans
Me: So I assume we're going for Kuroha x Ene as the pairing name
The other option would be Snake of Clearing Eyes x Enomoto Takane
One looks better, and one is the "true name"
F: What even is the CN tag for KuroEne
Me: Oof I saw some pics on Weibo back then but forgot…
KuroEne's First Meeting: Saeru arranges a meeting with Ene for the first time 🖥️
Kuroha lying next to Ene's android body (after finishing making her body, but her soul's still not inside it yet) 💐🎀
KuroEne with Saeru holding/draping a black wedding veil over the both of them: "I will come to you as both your lover and your executioner." 👰
Rambles with Feila
I think I may want to draw some scenes from my KuroEne AU soon.
A few art WIP ideas I've been wanting to draw for a long time........
KuroEne's First Meeting 🖥️
Specifically I had the idea of drawing Saeru wearing a black hoodie and how he appears on the screen to Ene after proposing to do a video call with her
So I plan to draw stuff from both their POVs
Saeru lying next to Ene's body in his lab 💐🎀
Wisteria is called Hoa tử đằng (lit. "Flower behind death") in Vietnam, so it is utterly perfect for KuroEne
KuroEne with Saeru holding a black translucent wedding veil over them 👰
I will come to you as both your lover and your executioner.
KuroEne with a black veil...
I recently came up with that caption and I really wanna draw a KuroEne art that fits it just so I have the chance to caption one of my own arts with it. It's soooo good
Not sure when I'll draw it but I had an art idea of Kuroha draping a translucent black bridal veil over himself and Ene with a smirk. One hand is holding the bridal veil and draping it over their heads, and the other is caressing near her face gently.
The art concept is so sexy when I imagine it in my head so I'll try to turn it into reality… Maybe I should draw them in wedding clothes rather than their usual outfits, but even if they're wearing their usual outfits, they'd still look sexy with a veil being draped over them.
Kuroha and Ene wearing Traditional Wedding Kimono (Chibi Icon Commission) by Hika (@/onigiwi2namayo) 🖤 💙 🐍 🐇 👘 🌹
Rambles
A few days ago, I asked her to add Ene's headphones onto the sketch.
Hika sent me an update with Ene's headphones ^^
I asked Hika to base it on the Ene Picnic Merch chibi art 💙
Me: Unless we want Ene's hair to go over her headphones a bit like in the Picnic art?
F: Tbh, I don't think that's necessary, it's better if every detail is shown :D
Me: Gotcha! Ty for your input ^^
It's good to have another set of eyes on these things.
Also makes sense since Hika uses thicker lines in her style.
F: Ene looks so cute here 💗🥹
So squishable
Me: Yeah I love how adorable Ene's expression is… She's so precious! 💘🛐
Hika captured Saeru’s expression perfectly 🙏
Me: I'm excited to see the coloured versions in the coming weeks!
OH MY GODDDD 😭 💞 💗
OMG THEIR EXPRESSIONS ARE SO GOOD… 🥺
I'M GONNA SCREAM ‼️ ❣️
THEY'RE SO PRETTY I CAN'T 💘
ADSKLKLDSKLDSKLDSKLKLDSKLDS 🛐
Hika just sent me the coloured versions! She asked me if I want minor colour adjustments 👍
Hika is so fast! Her turnaround time and art quality are amazing 💗🙏
I'm always pleasantly surprised!
Misc Rambles
Minor Revisions (Ideas)
Change Ene's headphones to white (because as it is right now, it doesn't match with her blues and whites)
Change Ene's rose to blue (or black)
Change Ene's outer kimono to a cyan blue
Do we want KuroEne to hold their OWN rose colours (Kuroha with a black rose and Ene with a blue rose) or do we want them to hold each other's rose colours (Kuroha with a blue rose and Ene with a black rose)
BG colour change (?)
OH. I think a few things comes to mind irt minor revisions.
I'm also sure that Hika drew Ene's hair accessories (roses) that way, so that it wouldn't create too many tangents/intersections (which affects readability/clearer shapes in art)
I love the colours of the roses she chose for the ones in Ene's hair... 💙🤍🌹
Because I think I want Hika to shift the hues for their colours slightly, and for Ene's clothes to be more cyan blue, just like the wedding kimono ref I sent 💙
The kimono has a light blue to cyan blue gradient.
Though, since chibi icons are headshots, I'd want the cyan blue part to be shown
So that it has more visual contrast against her white kakeshita (the under-layer white kimono that's worn beneath the outermost kimono, the blue iro-uchikake)
F: I want them to hold each other's roses (to perhaps symbolize a form of a vow)
Me: Yeah that's a good idea.
Because Saeru's colour palette is entirely in monochrome (BW) colours, except for his eyes.
It'd add more contrast to his art if he's holding a blue rose 🌹💙
Since I want their colours and the BGs to have more contrast as well.
The question is if we want Saeru to take cooler or warmer tones? 🤔
I want Saeru to match with Ene so that their colours look good together 🙏
So Ig it depends on what both their colours will be.
F: Maybe some warmer tones… to make it feel more alive and happy (?)
Oooh yeah I'll play around with some ^^ 👍
F: I'm unsure on this one, because most of the time, warm tones give off those vintage old times theme-ing type of vibes, which would be perfect for wedding photos
Me: Same here… I'm unsure what kind of "mood" I want for their colours this time. 🤔
Usually I draft colour palettes when artists ask me for colour revisions because it prevents a lot of needless back and forth (and makes for clearer and quicker communication) 🙏
Imo it helps gives a clearer idea to the artist than just saying, "Shift the hues warmer"
Cuz then the artist and client gets a clearer visual idea on how to shift the colour palette and suit it to their style.
I always try to let the artist have full range with their artistic vision irt poses, compositions, and colours (unless I have specific ones in mind) 👍
Though I usually give them pose and comp ideas if they prefer more direction.
And then I draft a colour palette if needed, for minor colour revisions.
Me: How about this? Just throwing this out there
Hair, skin, rose
Headphones, black kimono, outer haori jacket
F: Something like that is what I'm thinking.
F: Maybe I'm just a little biased with orange/red
I love sunsets 🌇🌆
Me: Orange/red/purple tones look really nice on him cuz then he has Warm and Cool Colours contrast with Ene ❤️ 💙
Since I don't want the colours to look TOO tinted if you know what I mean? Since Saeru has to match with Ene too.
I'm just throwing these potential colour palettes out there first ✌️
I will keep experimenting with them until we find one we like ^^
Me: Maybe Saeru should have a muted red or red BG to make his colours stand out more… 🤔
I think that'd be a good idea. Especially since we want him to hold a blue rose. 🌹💙
After I'm done drafting some potential colour palettes, I'll just compare the ones we like
So we're aiming for warmer colours with Saeru? I will keep that in mind 🙏
Me: I like when Ene's hair is coloured closer to cyan (similar to the wedding kimono's ocean blues), and when her eyes are ice blue.
And then I have to draft some quick colour palettes and pick ones for Ene later…
Kuroha and Ene (Traditional Wedding Kimono Comm) by Hika @/onigiwi2namayo) 🖤 💙 🐍 🐇 👘 🌹
OMGGGGG THEIR EXPRESSIONS ARE SO CUTE 🥺 💗 💞
ENE IS SO ADORABLE WAHHHHH MY WIFEY!!! 💙
KUROHA/SAERU'S EXPRESSION IS SO GOOD 🖤 🛐
MY BABIES THEY'RE SO PRECIOUS WAHHHHHHH 💘
God Hika's chibis are top notch… She's great with capturing chara vibes just through some refs.
Gosh she drew their expressions perfectly... Weh weh weh 😭🥹💗💞💘
Hika is always such a pleasure to commission 🙏
Her chibi comms always feel really fresh with poses and expressions!
So, Saeru will be holding a blue rose, and Ene will be holding a black rose… 🌹
Blue roses can also represent unrequited love or genuine admiration
So at first, I was wondering if Ene should be holding red roses since red roses represent passionate love...
Though I asked for blue and black ones, since I wanted to go for character coded colours for their roses 👍
Red Roses (Victorian) = I love you, love, beauty, passion, romance 🌹❤️
Red Roses (Hanakotoba) = I love you, love/affection, beauty, passion, passionate love 🌹❤️
Blue Roses (Victorian) = Mystery, attaining the impossible, love at first sight 🌹💙
Blue Roses (Hanakotoba) = Dreams come true, Impossible, Miracle, God's blessing 🌹💙
Black Roses (Hanakotoba) = You are only mine 🌹🖤
Oh the flower meanings work great. We are good! 👍
Augh... I love how Saeru's expression is still smug but tender looking… 🥺
AHDWHDAHSHDSH
(EXPLODES)
Rambles
Their poses and expressions here are so perfect...
Hika asked me if any revisions are needed.
I think the only minor revision I'd ask for would be to add Ene's headphones.
I don't think KonoEne are ever seen without their headphones in official arts, so it extends to Saeru too
Hika incorporated my request so well 🙏
I feel like Ene's usual black headphones would clash too much against her blue iro uchikake and white kakeshita here, so I feel like she should wear white ones (like in the Manga) or cyan ones (like in her Movie Design)
The Picnic KonoEne arts are so adorable omg
Fujimori (@/highspeed_f) draws such cute chibis
Ene eyeing Shintaro and the MekaDan's onigiri and food basket... 😋
KonoEne wearing Yukata (Hanabi (Fireworks)) merch set 💙💛
Me: Oh I could always suggest to simplify the headphones' shape so that it's like the Picnic Merch set arts.
Ene's hair in low twintails... WAHHH 🥺
F: To be frank, I want the headphones to have a matching colour palette to the wedding Kimono we picked out
Adding black would make it clash a bit too hard imo 😭
Maybe adding some pink flower patterns on it too?? That'd be cute, not sure if it'll make sense tho
Me: Yeah I agree with this as well. I don't want the colours to clash too hard against the kimono we chose
Especially since Ene's kimono is in blue and white 💙🤍
I really like how Hika drew the shape of Ene's hair here, so I don't want her hair to be obscured by her headphone bands (if we choose the black or cyan ones)
I think going with fully white ones is a good idea 👍
I will keep your suggestions in mind, ty 💗🙏
Also I always let the artists I comm simplify Ene's headphones design if needed cuz Sidu made it hard for no reason. Her usual black ones are kinda complicated
F: Yeah, the picnic one could be a good reference :D
Official @/mekakushidan Twt account, combined with Google Reverse Image Search 👍
Also I fucking hate you Shit (1st) Place for taking down merch previews entirely from your site (might be cuz of the series being stuck in copyright hell)
Makes it such a pain to archive old arts with dead links 😔
For some reason any links won't embed... Maybe it's cuz of that account's settings
(Snow told me that Reverse Image Search still exists, it just defaults to shitty ass Google Lens)
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【KagePro】 KuroEne Wearing Traditional Wedding Kimono 🖤💙👘
Been busy lately so I'll probably queue a proper post tomorrow talking about my ideas for KuroEne wearing traditional wedding kimono 🖤💙👘
Basically, I saw that Rin, an ID/SEA artist, drew KuroEne in the past, and I found out they were offering comms, so I asked if they could draw KuroEne in traditional wedding kimono 🙏
Omg 😭🥺💖💞💗
It makes me happy to see a fellow SEA artist who ships them 🥺🖤💙
Feila also discussed ideas with me for the KuroEne comm to help me decide on their outfits, and pose/expression/composition ideas.
Ty for your inputs! 💞💗
My Ideas
Ene can wear iro-uchikake (色打掛, "Colourful wedding kimono"), the 2nd highest formal wedding kimono, that has a draping bridal trail 💙🤍
Kuroha/Saeru can wear the traditional formal men's kimono, Daiichi reisou (第一礼装), the highest level of formal wear for men's kimono, which consists of black (黒, kuro) montsuki kimono, haori jacket, and hakama 🖤🩶🤍
Since Kuroha's main colours are black and gray (and yellow), the traditional black, gray, and white colours really fit him.
At first, I thought about them carrying black and blue Wagasa (和傘, "Oil paper umbrellas")
But I felt like it'd clutter the piece (and add too much detail complexity especially with how detailed their outfits are), and I'd rather the focus be on their faces.
I imagined that Ene would wear blue flower accessories in her hair 💙🤍💐
I imagine that the BG would have wisteria flowers.
One of my fave flowers that I love is Wisteria.
I consider it a Selena flower 💜
I associate it to my KHR OC and beloved wife 💞
It's a purple flower and also a poisonous flower
In Vietnam we call it Hoa tử đằng (lit. "Flower behind death"), and Cây đậu tía ("Purple bean tree")
Also Hoa fuji ("Fuji/Wisteria flowers") is used when referring to the JP variant
There are both JP and CN variants of Wisteria
"Flower behind Death" is especially fitting for them... Sighs... :'^) 🖤💙
Poses and Expressions
I imagine that they would both have open eyed expressions...
I imagine Saeru would still have his signature smug smirk, but that his gaze would be a little softer in this...
While Ene has a happy smiling expression (^v^)
I imagined that they their fingers would be intertwined
And Ene has a hand to his face, while Saeru has his other hand coming around the back of Ene's neck
Just used CSP's 3D models to get a quick idea as a rough visual guide.
I had this at first but then I was worried that his kimono sleeves would obscure too much of Ene's kimono, and I want Ene's kimono to be visible in the piece.
Feila suggested a kind of pose where their fingers would be intertwined. So I did this after! Now both their kimono sleeves can be visible and not cover too much of the other 👍
