Due to being in KHR and BSD fandoms (fandoms notoriously known to be impossible to leave) I sometimes get the itch to assign BSD characters flame types. I mostly fail, bc no character can really fully fit into just one of the seven boxes unless they were designed that way. And not even in-universe KHR characters are! (ex. Gokudera and his 6 flame types)
But Dazai throws me of the loop especially. Heβs so annoying. He is a Mist, okay? He is, he fits. But in the Beast novel he knows about the parallel worlds. He has his own parallel selfβs memories! Thatβs the entire reason he does what he does in Beast! And tell me thatβs not almost exactly Byakuranβs powers.
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Same anon as before and not gonna lie I like your fanon more lmao. That being said I do believe flames were in fact something Amano did add later as they developed the story during that arc. As we all know it originally wasnβt intended to be a battle shonen so of course Amano had to add some more βmagicalβ elements.
But in the world flames have always been a thing (because it would be insane in-world if it were just invented during the ring battle). That being said then, the other instance we see βflamesβ being used by someone outside of vongola before the ring battle is Mukuro as his illusions are powered using by mist flames.
Does anyone else being shot with the Dying Will Bullet during the daily life arc also count? Such as Ryohei and Kyoko? Since thatβs technically their flames being activated similar to Tsuna if you think about it. There was also the bullet Longchampβs family had butβ¦ thatβs probably its own this lmao. Anyway sorry for the ramble I just find your takes very interesting.
Well I'm very glad you find them interesting!!! I'm here exactly for this
But yes, amano certainly built lore along the way, I am pretty certain that all the different flame types were thought for real only at the beginning of the future arc, with the concept being born with Basil's "rain" flame (I do not even remember if it was an actual rain flame at the time). And I'm also pretty sure that mukuro's illusions being mist flames is said later, while in the varia arc/before it was just "many illusionists end up being mist guardians", considering mammon as well.
And no, people being shot with magic bullets, at least for me, does not count:
The dying will (flame) is certainly present in (almost) everyone, but the flame is possible only in extreme events, such as being shot by the magic bullet, so much that it erupts directly from the head, being uncontrolled
Only very few people - aka the most powerful, aka vongola bosses - are able to condense their willpower to make a flame and use it as they want. And until the varia arc they also needed a special weapon as catalyst (not just a ring), even Xanxus's flame is described as possible only with certain bullets in his guns
Basil's roles is basically to teach Tsuna not only how to maintain his flame, but also to use it without reborn shooting him if I remember well. Sure, he has the mints, but I'm pretty certain that later in the manga that is lost as well and Tsuna can just ignite as he wants (though it's tricky territory, to consider later lore, even if we look at its evolution)
So yes, flames have always being a thing in reborn lore, but I believe that they were incredibly rare before the future arc (so much that at its beginning it is explained that they a new advancement in battles) and reserved for the most powerful, when used with consciousness (and not just, going berserk because of a magic bullet)
